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JAMz

JAMz

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I’m in the market for a new springer. I currently have an UK Tomahawk a TX200HC and a SL98. I’m very I’m happy with these. So I want something new. Something fun to shoot in the backyard. Maybe open sights. Something that won’t spook the neighbors. Something discrete when doing pest control at night. My issue is that I never owned a sub 12 gun and I’m afraid I might miss the power of the previous.

See, I’m 51 years old. I’ve been an aficionado rock guitar player since high school, so you know our type is notorious for wanting all out! Guitar amps blasting away! So that’s was my approach when I got into Airguns 15 years ago. I wanted power and hard hitting guns. I never owned a chrony so I have no idea how much output my guns are putting out. All I know is they have plenty of energy at the target and I’m hooked on that.

Today I’m not hunting or anything just punching papers in the back yard and the occasional pest control. But still I’m afraid to that I might find a lower power gun too wimpy to what I’m used to. I’m sure that some of you have been where I’m at and have never looked back.

BTW, I had decided to go with an HW35E. But recently saw an HW97K in stainless with a Tactical stock and got my attention. Obviously the 97K is is not quite the type of gun was I originally after. What do you think?
 
I have no problems taking out squirrels and chipmunks out to 25 yards with my Beeman R7 .20. About 7 fpe, quiet and silly accurate.

FWIW, I also own higher powered rifles that shoot twice that in an HW95 .22 and a Beeman R9 .20 (among others) should I want to grab either one, but the R7 is just as deadly and flat fun to shoot :)
 
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I wondered what the subject of this post was all about - found the same question I’ve been wrestling with. After shooting HP PCP rifles, what springer would I be happy with. I’ve been looking at the HW35 and HW97 at possible options and wondering which would makes the most sense.

Then I find a bunch of Submariners hanging out here. I never served on one, but worked on designing and building propulsion and launch systems for them for over 40 years. I must be on the right post......
 
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I recently acquired a 17 ft/lb Diana 340 gas ram breakbarrel. It is rather loud however. It's like a tuned Diana 34. Very quick shot cycle. Hooded front sight for inserts. I put a Williams peep on it. It's the best iron sight combo. It's truly amazing how accurate a guy can be with proper iron sights. The T o 6 trigger is better than previous Diana triggers. This onw equals Record. Visit some U-Tubes, buy it, and never sell it. Enjoy.
 
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..but you can get some EXTREMELY accurate (for a springer) and yet quite powerful pellet guns. My Diana 48 is a tack driver and hits near to 18fpe depending on pellet, my asp20 hits 20fpe, and is a tack driver as well. The asp is probably around 92 decibels and has some "kick" to it, making it feel quite poweful by your senses, and it hits hard as well.

The thing is going to be getting tight groups with a Springer. I found it to be a large learning curve (except my 97). Transitioning from firearms to springers I felt like a fool. Took thousands of rounds to get comfortable with groupong with most of my springers (I am probably a slow pupil)



If I were transitioning now, I'd probably focus more on the trigger than I did. The t05-06 are good triggers, the rekord is in its own class. The asp20 trigger is probably perfect for hunting, and mine serves me very well for target additionally, but it is no rekord and comes in a little heavy near 2.5lbs pull (although mine "feels" lighter than that even though I know I have measured it).

Also, getting a tune does make a difference in the shot cycle smoothness, etc. Just got a tuned xisico diana34 clone, and it is great.



Trigger, tune, good barrel and time behind the gun will make the springer enjoyable. One plug for the 97...it's no where near as poweful as my asp20, but it is a laser and took me no time to learn that one. I ocked it up (it was only my second Springer to try, first was a ruger airhawk) and I had hole in hole at 20 yards instantly. My other springers all came with a big learning curve for me...
 
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Glenrolland,

The fact that the asp20 had a non-adjustable trigger was a deal killer for me. Maybe a nice wide trigger shoe would yield a lighter trigger feel for ya. I have one on my Anschutz 2002 Field Target rifle. It's kinda silly to use a trigger on a Anschutz trigger BUT I like a wide blade on my finger pad. Helps me pull in line with the bore.
 
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If you can find one, a Walther LGV or LGU is worth consideration. With a sound moderator, my LGV makes a quiet "puht" when I shoot it. 12fpe is plenty for squirrels and rabbits out to 50m. Or if you don't mind less quality, a Walther Terrus may work for you. A Parrus though would produce the magnum fpe you are used to. There are some springer pistols that you can place a stock on or come with a stock for that small unobtrusive look you mentioned and still have enough power for pesting. I know Hatsan has some and I think Diana has some too.
 
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