AAA EVOL .30 Magnon VS FX Impact X MKII .30
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I am leaning that way (MIL-C) Appears to be a hybrid between the busier tree reticle of the XT and cleaner - less cluttered MOAR.
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I wont be able to see ANY of them in person. No one stocks these around me. I have to do all my HW via forums - just like the air rifles....Unfortunately. I like the versatility of MIL over MOA, but do not need the tree per say - does anyone with an airgun? I mean its an airgun right? We are not shooting 6.5 Creedmore or .338 at 800+ yards where the extra reticle adjustments are necessary.
All said, no one says I cannot take the scope off and put it on such rifle in case I sell this rifle or simply want to move it over for some reason. I digress. The point it I have to figure most of it out online and the help of you along with all the others is much appreciated.
I am also poking around Sniperhide lots of good info there, but their use case is different as obviously everyone is talking about these scopes in the context of putting it on one of their high power rifles.....but I'm figuring it out....
All said, no one says I cannot take the scope off and put it on such rifle in case I sell this rifle or simply want to move it over for some reason. I digress. The point it I have to figure most of it out online and the help of you along with all the others is much appreciated.
I am also poking around Sniperhide lots of good info there, but their use case is different as obviously everyone is talking about these scopes in the context of putting it on one of their high power rifles.....but I'm figuring it out....
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I'd say go with your gut. Personally I like clean reticles and prefer MIL scopes. It'd be a hard choice for me as I like the MOAR reticle the best but since I find MIL way simpler to use than MOA I'd have to go with the MIL C.
While waiting for my EVOL to come I have a 4-16x44 Athlon Midas Tac scope with the APRS2 reticle. One of my favorite reticles. Also the Arken SHR reticle is one of my favorites which is pretty similar to the MOAR reticle. Reticles are a very personal thing I find.
While waiting for my EVOL to come I have a 4-16x44 Athlon Midas Tac scope with the APRS2 reticle. One of my favorite reticles. Also the Arken SHR reticle is one of my favorites which is pretty similar to the MOAR reticle. Reticles are a very personal thing I find.
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Here's what I will say about the MIL-XT if it helps at all. Being a FFP scope, you barely even see the tree when out at 4X. It's only when you start to zoom in around 12x that it starts to appear and it is not really usable in any major capacity until 24x. But at 32X you only see about 10 mil top to bottom (maybe a little more, it's not right in front of me to look through) of the reticle and the top of the tree becomes very useable. The other thing about the MIL-XT is the IR. If you turn on the IR at 4X it light's up like a standard mil-dot scope and is very useable.
Overall I don't find the tree obtrusive at all when I don't want to use it, but very handy when I do.
Overall I don't find the tree obtrusive at all when I don't want to use it, but very handy when I do.
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Thank you for the insight....Any suggestions for NF ring size? I might as well get their rings with it if I choose to go this route.
https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/accessories/rings
Was thinking part # A107 based on the need to clear the mag and the previous discussion on rings.
https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/accessories/rings
Was thinking part # A107 based on the need to clear the mag and the previous discussion on rings.
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I know the Nightforce rings are very nice. I don't have them on my guns right now so I can't answer you on that. I do know that the FX rings fit just right.
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You should try ARC rings! Better engineering because it wraps around the tube instead of compressing it down. Best rings out there.
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Ahh yes. American Rifle....Ya, im sold on those. Have those on one of my rifles....forgot about them and yes they are arguably the best. Question is what ring height with the EVOL .30? They have: 1.10", 1.26" or 1.42"
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I don't want to get into a ring argument but there are many fine choices out there and no one brand is the best.
From here: https://precisionrifleblog.com/2018/12/25/best-scope-mount/
edit - ok maybe Spuhr is but I know nothing about them.
From here: https://precisionrifleblog.com/2018/12/25/best-scope-mount/
edit - ok maybe Spuhr is but I know nothing about them.
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Rings are not as critical on a airgun as with some centerfire rifles. I have used most on that list, except Spur. All will work well. As well as the FX not limit and the Eagle Vision rings. Pretty much choose what you like and get them.
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All true....Im just curious about height as that seems to be something to consider. Should the 1.10" work?
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Lol those spuhr are $400 a pop. I have a set of Vortex Tactical high rings which are 1.18" that by my calculations should fit perfect. I have a set of SWFA rings in medium height which are at 1.0" that might be close also but not sure exactly until I have the gun in my hands.
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I'll present this point about all the normal rings that are basically using the same engineering. They pinch the tube and compress it either down, or from the side, or at an angle like Spuhr. This can cause the parallax slider mechanism in the tube to bind up or be constricted which ill affects the function of different things in the scope. I've read about it over and over for the last 14 years.
It's true that the clamping force for rings needed on a PCP doesn't need to be much so there's that. BUT I used Nightforce rings on my 375 Cheytac and the NF 5.5-22x56 kept on slipping so I kept tightening and damaged the tube of the scope. I bought ARC rings which totally eliminated all slipping on the new 5.5-22, I was so impressed that I kept buying ARC's for the other expensive scopes and rifles. The way the ARC rings are designed, and seeing the evidence first hand was what sold me. Also every scope I've had in ARC rings rendered perfect tubes with no marring so I was able to sell the scopes for more.
All I'm saying is if a guy is buying expensive rings anyway then definitely buy ARC.
For looks alone I like the Seekins rings. They are sleek.
It's true that the clamping force for rings needed on a PCP doesn't need to be much so there's that. BUT I used Nightforce rings on my 375 Cheytac and the NF 5.5-22x56 kept on slipping so I kept tightening and damaged the tube of the scope. I bought ARC rings which totally eliminated all slipping on the new 5.5-22, I was so impressed that I kept buying ARC's for the other expensive scopes and rifles. The way the ARC rings are designed, and seeing the evidence first hand was what sold me. Also every scope I've had in ARC rings rendered perfect tubes with no marring so I was able to sell the scopes for more.
All I'm saying is if a guy is buying expensive rings anyway then definitely buy ARC.
For looks alone I like the Seekins rings. They are sleek.
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If you are specifically talking about the 4-32 NX8 then 1.1" might work. I first tried the 0.97" Seekins and the turret cluster didn't clear the magazine. 1.26" clears but don't know by how much.
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