Hey everybody. After admiring this rifle for years, I finally purchased a brand new Air Arms TX200 Mk III. When unpacking the rifle, I heard some rattling noise as I pulled the gun out of its packing material. It sounded like a loose part. I realized it was occurring where the cocking arm (aka cocking link) is connected to the cocking lever. There's a little side to side play in the area where the two parts are coupled, but it's so loose that you can hear it when just picking up the rifle. It's even more evident when holding the rifle upright and gently shaking it side to side. I understand the screws that connect the two parts can't be super tight because it's a moving joint, but this can't be normal. Please tell me if you experienced this and if it's normal. And if it's not, how you resolved it. Might have to consider returning or exchanging the merchandise. Sorry, I don't have a picture at this time of the parts I'm referring to on the rifle. Thanks for any feedback!
A question for the TX200 Mk III owners...
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The rattling sound is normal, if it's coming from the cocking arm linkage. At least on mine, the noise only manifests itself when I bump the rifle with considerable force or shake it firmly. As long as when the arm is held securely by the ball detent, the gun will perform as it should. I'd recommend you do a quick check on the four screws that hold the action onto the stock: the two trigger guard screws (one big and one small one) and the two front side screws. It would especially be a good idea to check that the screw on the aluminum yoke (pictured below from an online photo), which allows the two front stock screws to secure themselves to, is tight and that the bracket doesn't wiggle; this part has a tendency to work itself loose after a while. I use blue Loctite on the threads of the yoke screw.
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Just checked mine. Yep it rattles a tad. Never noticed before. I had to shake it hard to hear it. Doesn't bother me.
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When I make mine "buck" it sounds like a squirrel thumping on the deck... normal
Your description of yours sounds fine.
Your description of yours sounds fine.
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The first week you will be looking for a couple of orings to go into the grooves on the end of that lever, since that little rubber bumper will be falling out of the barrel. And mine has a habit of the stock screws getting loose(not so much now that the wood of the stock has settled down and I used Loctite on the screws). And mine also can make a noise but I don't remember ever noticing that before so it must not be an issue?
And the tx200 may be one of the easiest rifles I have to break down if you just want to clean the internals.
And the tx200 may be one of the easiest rifles I have to break down if you just want to clean the internals.
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Thanks for your insights friends. From other owners I communicated with, it seems like this is not entirely unusual, but just wasn't sure it was normal. I just thought it a little strange as none of my other springers exhibit this. This rifle is an investment for me so I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a lemon. Please check these short 10-second videos out and tell me if you still feel the same. Thanks.
http://vid1067.photobucket.com/albums/u425/DesertSquid/1_zpsrr3eiqwx.mp4
http://vid1067.photobucket.com/albums/u425/DesertSquid/2_zpsyvnzsjpf.mp4
http://vid1067.photobucket.com/albums/u425/DesertSquid/3_zpsj4c6jrc8.mp4
http://vid1067.photobucket.com/albums/u425/DesertSquid/1_zpsrr3eiqwx.mp4
http://vid1067.photobucket.com/albums/u425/DesertSquid/2_zpsyvnzsjpf.mp4
http://vid1067.photobucket.com/albums/u425/DesertSquid/3_zpsj4c6jrc8.mp4
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I found this to be an unsettling (shock) find on a NEW TX200HC in the year 2023. Even when the cocking lever is secured, that linkage arm will rattle from side to side with little motion effort on shaking the rifle. This is the first easily seen joint and visibly seen movement. Have to say, on a hunter model with this much said quality and cosmetic effort. why the loose tolerance here? Makes me appreciate other spring rifles I've handled such as the HW77 & 77K, HW97K and a number of HW and Diana break barrels. How did those lower cost rifles keep their linkages from rattling?
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Strange I do not remember this. I have a tx about 4 years old I rarely shoot it so I will go out to the shed and check it.
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Spacers, shims, resizing holes etc to remove the play. Unfortunately these are mass produced and on ocassion a couple parts might be on the high/ low side of the tolerance.
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Slight rattle on a second try in the refurbished/used TX200HC category, but its not as bad but still present. Might try to push some grease in the joint or send the rifle off to someone who can properly go through the rifle and maybe shim. IMHO, this should not be present at all in today's manufacturing processes and quality control - dealt . Cheaper springer air rifles get the job done with out loose rattling so a few others figured out how to do it. I have handled a total of 5 TX200's over the past 2 years. 3 TX200 standard did not have this loose arm joint. 2 TX200HC have the loose arm joint. Maybe its the angle difference of the shorter cocking lever & arm. Seems out of place on this higher tier springer compared to the rest.
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Here it what I see. I am a mechanic. I work for a company that we work on about anything. I work on lift trucks. Skid steer’s. An other mobile equipment. Post Covid. Every one is scrambling to get there produces. Out. And the
workmanship is terrible. And when they fail. Can’t get parts ( still a huge problem ) I think the air gun market is the same. Way. The 2 new Weihrauch. (2023) have been subpar! I was hoping the tx was better, thats my next. Toy, On my list
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workmanship is terrible. And when they fail. Can’t get parts ( still a huge problem ) I think the air gun market is the same. Way. The 2 new Weihrauch. (2023) have been subpar! I was hoping the tx was better, thats my next. Toy, On my list
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I seen a decline in stock finish application etc on HW from Krale during the Covid run. Had no issues with stock bought from AoA in the HW category. Overall, HW has impressed me the most with quality and depth of product offerings. Price is keeping me out of a PCP because I don't want to mess around as I did with springers - buying selling trying buying selling. Looking at HW100 or maybe a AAS510 in a carbine length ... then be done. Just like firearms, like alot of them but only have room and so much $ to tie up in them. I figured by now the post covid bs that the system would have worked out the kinks in supply and demand and employees. Don't know off the top of my head, but I want to beleive that arm/lever assembly can be replaced? However, my current new to me TX200HC is not as bad as the last one with the rattle. My expectations go up with the price tag.Here it what I see. I am a mechanic. I work for a company that we work on about anything. I work on lift trucks. Skid steer’s. An other mobile equipment. Post Covid. Every one is scrambling to get there produces. Out. And the
workmanship is terrible. And when they fail. Can’t get parts ( still a huge problem ) I think the air gun market is the same. Way. The 2 new Weihrauch. (2023) have been subpar! I was hoping the tx was better, thats my next. Toy, On my list
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The linkage SHOULD NEVER BE LOOSE / RATTLE when in battery .... The sliding breech and it making a seal against the barrel requires that when cocking lever is put into battery ( locked up ) there is tension of the sliding breech & linkage being lightly against the barrel.
If / when linkage is loose you have a breech o-ring leak during the initial firing cycle. * That being when piston first starts moving compressing air some is leaking out & not until compression ramps up is compression tube/breech forced to move forward, seal the leak, build pressure on remaining stroke and then launch a pellet.
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If / when linkage is loose you have a breech o-ring leak during the initial firing cycle. * That being when piston first starts moving compressing air some is leaking out & not until compression ramps up is compression tube/breech forced to move forward, seal the leak, build pressure on remaining stroke and then launch a pellet.
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Number of them with the issue, so I'm leaning to loose machine tolerances based on my observations of the linkage - just different degrees of side to side play. Few youtube videos also mention the issue. A review video describes the rattle. A tuning video shows putting little shims in to take care of the issue of some side to side slop. So either AA is sloppy or there are a lot of TX200 air rifles that are defective. My take at this point is sloppy or could have better tolerances where the arm meets into the cocking arm pivot point. Not sending my refurbished TX200HC back at this point, will live with the slight side to side rattle or send off to a tuner. May try pushing a little axle grease in the grooves. It is what it is...but really liking the balance and stock grip, not so much the short little cocking lever (LOL). Thanks everyone for the input.
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