Thanks Mike, I do feel somewhat foolish for not thinking about or mentioning the wind/drift factor.
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Thanks Mike, I do feel somewhat foolish for not thinking about or mentioning the wind/drift factor.
Congrats on an inspiring achievement of accuracy. While I agree with Fullmag's question and opinion, I can also agree with Thomasair. I think I find the combination of man and machine working together as one a more realistic challenge than bench rest shooting and I would like to see more events promoting this type of shooting. I also like the challenge of tuning my own rifle, and I think you lose that ability when you are using very expensive equipment. This what's makes the world go around. It is certainly challenging to achieve perfection, and someone will always be willing to test another's ability. Again congrats on the merits of your achievement.
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Backstop….no worries.
Over the years that I have shot BR, I have heard all sorts of criticism about the sport…mostly from those that did not understand the purpose or the challenge. In that same time I’ve also seen a lot of guys get to try a good BR gun for the first time. I’ve never seen one of those guys that didn’t have a giant smile on their face as they ask if they can take another shot. It’s something that you have to experience to appreciate fully. It’s a lot of fun. That said…it’s not near as popular as it could be due to the expense.
After the initial expense…my gun costs 3c per shot. A similar costing Unlimited class Rimfire gun costs 40-50 cents per shot.
Mike
Over the years that I have shot BR, I have heard all sorts of criticism about the sport…mostly from those that did not understand the purpose or the challenge. In that same time I’ve also seen a lot of guys get to try a good BR gun for the first time. I’ve never seen one of those guys that didn’t have a giant smile on their face as they ask if they can take another shot. It’s something that you have to experience to appreciate fully. It’s a lot of fun. That said…it’s not near as popular as it could be due to the expense.
After the initial expense…my gun costs 3c per shot. A similar costing Unlimited class Rimfire gun costs 40-50 cents per shot.
Mike
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Good explanation Mike.
BackStop Fullmag.
Here are a few good places to learn about benchrest. I used to think it was simple too until I began to learn. Its still nearly impossible to do well.
50yard 22LR Benchrest
https://www.americanrimfire.com/
Whoa, price dropped from $20/box of 50 rounds
Everything else
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/?s=benchrest&submit=Search
Download a target and try yourself. You might enjoy it.
http://national50.org/target/
Others concerned about gubmint worries; they could worry about these too but they don't
Up to 58 caliber and maybe larger by now
https://topairgun.com/big-bore-air-rifles/ https://thegunzone.com/big-bore-airguns/
And this one since 1780 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girardoni_air_rifle but then you probably knew that one.
BackStop Fullmag.
Here are a few good places to learn about benchrest. I used to think it was simple too until I began to learn. Its still nearly impossible to do well.
50yard 22LR Benchrest
https://www.americanrimfire.com/
Whoa, price dropped from $20/box of 50 rounds
Everything else
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/?s=benchrest&submit=Search
Download a target and try yourself. You might enjoy it.
http://national50.org/target/
Others concerned about gubmint worries; they could worry about these too but they don't
Up to 58 caliber and maybe larger by now
https://topairgun.com/big-bore-air-rifles/ https://thegunzone.com/big-bore-airguns/
And this one since 1780 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girardoni_air_rifle but then you probably knew that one.
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Folks just do not understand what true accuracy is about. The pursuit of perfection is what we strive for, the work, dedication and passion that makes it all work together.
Every piece of equipment is involved, and used for that ideal and ultimate goal of accuracy, every piece, man and machine is striving for perfection.
Benchrest is not for everyone, it is actually a small number compared to other disciplines. It takes a passionate person willing to commit in reaching his goals for true accuracy.
I would not expect those that do not truly know, say many positive things, and that is okay.
Congrats Mike, you deserve it.
Joe
Every piece of equipment is involved, and used for that ideal and ultimate goal of accuracy, every piece, man and machine is striving for perfection.
Benchrest is not for everyone, it is actually a small number compared to other disciplines. It takes a passionate person willing to commit in reaching his goals for true accuracy.
I would not expect those that do not truly know, say many positive things, and that is okay.
Congrats Mike, you deserve it.
Joe
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Congrats to Mike, Lou, awesome shooting, also for all shooting at the national’s. I know Joe Freidrich played a major role with Mike getting the N50 league started so hat’s off to Joe as well. That’s a great start for a newly formed competitive Format!
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Congrats Mike. That is amazing! I knew you were getting close from your previous posts, but it did seem like a stretch for it to finally occur. Just wow!
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Very cool. That target just makes me fidget sitting here. The skills needed to be competent in BR are just something I don’t have LOL. Realize that the bull is like shooting a pencil eraser at 50y and to win you pretty much can’t miss one and as noted, a win or a loss after you get down the foundational skills is still somewhat left to chance as the vagaries of the wind are not anything one can control.
Years ago, I was an assistant range master and helped to train and qualify people for a security job. It was all shotguns and revolvers at the time. I used to shoot several days a week for free and got to be pretty handy. I did a few local competitions among police departments and always placed pretty easily. I figured I would look into true bullseye stuff and quickly found out that people shooting 46 of 48 into the X-ring the size of a pencil eraser were the ones who were competitive. I smoked and drank coffee at the time and there was no way I could ever control my heart beat enough to be competitive unless I gave up both LOL.
Shooting is similar to golf or billiards in that, with guidance and practice, one can improve very quickly and be well above the ability of a random person. However, the difference between that level of competency and being among the best is an entire lifetime of effort. Almost anyone can become a 3 MOA shooter with just a little time and effort, but there are very few that become 1 MOA shooters and even fewer win bench rest competitions. The distance from the 3” ring to that bullseye is measured in years.
Years ago, I was an assistant range master and helped to train and qualify people for a security job. It was all shotguns and revolvers at the time. I used to shoot several days a week for free and got to be pretty handy. I did a few local competitions among police departments and always placed pretty easily. I figured I would look into true bullseye stuff and quickly found out that people shooting 46 of 48 into the X-ring the size of a pencil eraser were the ones who were competitive. I smoked and drank coffee at the time and there was no way I could ever control my heart beat enough to be competitive unless I gave up both LOL.
Shooting is similar to golf or billiards in that, with guidance and practice, one can improve very quickly and be well above the ability of a random person. However, the difference between that level of competency and being among the best is an entire lifetime of effort. Almost anyone can become a 3 MOA shooter with just a little time and effort, but there are very few that become 1 MOA shooters and even fewer win bench rest competitions. The distance from the 3” ring to that bullseye is measured in years.
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Congratulations Mike! You've come a long way baby.
I know of no one more deserving than you.
Jim in Sacramento
I know of no one more deserving than you.
Jim in Sacramento
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Congratulations, the result with an air rifle is unbelievable.
Looking from the outside, you do not perceive the time and dedication necessary to achieve this and the number of factors involved.
The infinite variety of combinations between the speed of the projectile, its weight, its shape, the length of the barrel, its rate of rotation, etc. , etc and then the enormous influence of the wind.
It is a very important achievement.
Jorge
Looking from the outside, you do not perceive the time and dedication necessary to achieve this and the number of factors involved.
The infinite variety of combinations between the speed of the projectile, its weight, its shape, the length of the barrel, its rate of rotation, etc. , etc and then the enormous influence of the wind.
It is a very important achievement.
Jorge
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Y'all should make time for next years event. The venue is superb and the company is top notch.
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Good explanation Mike.
BackStop Fullmag.
Here are a few good places to learn about benchrest. I used to think it was simple too until I began to learn. Its still nearly impossible to do well.
50yard 22LR Benchrest
https://www.americanrimfire.com/
Whoa, price dropped from $20/box of 50 rounds
Everything else
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/?s=benchrest&submit=Search
Download a target and try yourself. You might enjoy it.
http://national50.org/target/
Others concerned about gubmint worries; they could worry about these too but they don't
Up to 58 caliber and maybe larger by now
https://topairgun.com/big-bore-air-rifles/ https://thegunzone.com/big-bore-airguns/
And this one since 1780 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girardoni_air_rifle but then you probably knew that one.
Hey thank you for the info and Congrats to Mike on your win!
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