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A couple of "must do" things to the Walther Reign

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MikeVV

MikeVV

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I received a Walther Reign today.

First thing that I noticed is that the plastic stock, while the shape is fine, it just feels sorta cheap. All of the seams fit well, the shapes and curves are well fitted, but...

The other thing is the "horrible" trigger. I put 20 rounds through it before taking out to the garage for some work...

A few weeks back when I was doing some YouTube research on the Reign, I recall a trigger fix that one poster recommended. While I couldn't find it today, I recalled it being simple to do. I don't have a "pull" gauge, but it has to be 3 or 4 pounds, maybe even more. The fix is to use a retractable pen spring. I opened two pens, they had different length springs, they went to the garage with me. After taking the stock off, I saw the problem, it has a small garage door spring as a trigger return. Fish the factory spring out and play with a pen spring. First full length, hard to get into place. Remove cut a couple of coils, flatten the last coil, install. Still a little hard. Cut one more coil, flatted the last coil. Mmmm, not bad, I'll go with that. It's probably still +/- a pound or so, but MUCH better than the factory spring. At least NOW...I can actually feel that the trigger is actually a two stage trigger, which could not be felt with the stock spring. It's actually not bad right now without any other adjustment. All a nice smooth pull, a solid wall, and a fairly short, crisp release.

Another thing that I noticed in a few of the reviews was that the sounds coming from the mechanics of the gun are magnified by the big hollow (my words) plastic stock. Beside guns of all sorts, cars and motorcycles are a long time hobby. I'm currently finishing a rebuild of a 54 Studebaker, 2dr wagon. One of the things that I did was to use an insulation on the firewall and floor. To both help keep heat out and...as a sound deadener. Well, I just happen to have a sheet left, "Dyna Mat" is the name of it. It's basically just a butyl rubber in big sheets (about 1/16" thk.) that you cut to fit. I thought...what the hell.. I took and cleaned the inside of the stock in places surrounding the receiver area. I cut and fitted some of this butyl mat and put it into a few of the pockets, hoping that the extra thickness would not get in the way...it did not. After putting the stock back together, I loaded up a magazine, cocket it...so far so good, no interference or rubbing felt. The best thing...IT WORKED. While it still doesn't sound like a wood stock gun, it's 90% better than what it was. Plenty acceptable now.

I also swapped the cocking lever over to the left side. I'm a right handed shooter that feels removing my right hand from a good grasp at the trigger to cock a gun is a dumb idea. I'd rather cock the gun with the support hand that isn't really doing much, just holding the forend up..! It took a few minutes, but it was straight forward. A little oil here and there, and screwed back together.

As noted above, I put a few rounds through it to verify the working and the sight verification, and had other things in the house to do.

Just those three of things gave the gun a whole different feel. Much quieter, and more comfortable to shoot.

The next task is to shorten the barrel to make it fit the original "bullpup" idea. I want to put the silencer right against the stock.

So far, (with the fixes), it's actually a nice gun. If you were thinking of getting one, it DOES have a Walther barrel..! It also seems pretty simple mechanically wise.

Mike
 
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That video was from the GTA channel on youtube. I am really curious about the power on that as well, and if you can heat the moderator up and remove it from the barrel. I would order one in .25 if I could verify it was over 38 fpe. I am not sure of the version they sell here, and an email to them didn't help as they said they only sell "the one" version in the US when I asked about the 70J .25.
 
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Rene - 

I don't have a chronograph, but sound wise, every shot sounds much the same. There's no loud, one soft, another ear piercing. As far as accuracy, I shoot offhanded, so accuracy isn't going to be all in one hole. That said, yea, my short indoor "range" (depending on where I stand), my 16-17yrd. range, offhanded, I'm able to get quarter sized groups. I'm guessing that with a little more practice and concentration, I can reduce that a little. I've got two bullpups that nickle sized groups are pretty easy, but again, that comes with practice. I doubt I can get it really tight, as I'm pushing 70yrs old..! Right now I'm using JSB Jumbo 15,89gr. I normally use the JSB 18.1, which I'll give them a try too. I don't see any major change happening.



Penry -

Again, I have no way of measuring the pellet speed/power. Other than as a preventive (maintenance) tool, I really don't much care about the speed (as long as the pellet's go where I tell them too !). As far as removing the silencer...yea, that's on my "to do" list. As I noted above, to shorten (cut & rethread) the barrel.



Mike
 
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Mike -

quarter sized groups are far better what i get. The behavior of the gun was quite strange. I got speeds between 880 and 1015 within on magazine with the JSB 18.1. My Chrony is a rather cheap one so absolute numbers might not be correct but the spread is really huge. My guess is that the hammer spring tension is too high. But unfortunately theres no easy way to change that on the reign. Let´s see what my dealer says.

I like the gun for its handling but the lack of adjustability is a bit frustrating, especially when you are having troubles with the accuracy. I will probably sell it, when i have it back.
 
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I have the Reign in .22, ragged one hole groups with Monster RD's, at 35 yrds off precision rest, it is a true 40 ft lb gun. This is a very comfortable and compact plat form. From that stand point, hard to find a more comfortable accurate BP in that price point. It could be quieter tho...and I guess you can get the Mod off and fit with DFL, according to one owner's and that would be nice to be able to use Aftermarket suppressor to hush this little puppy...side note, I backed off the long screw under trigger linkage assy, in stock "calling that," the short one, as near as I could feel is second stage break, the long seems to be hammer spring and by backing off I picked up a little more power which was just what the Monster's needed.

Really accurate comfortable gun once you get the trigger to where you can feel the second stage and get used to it, it does break clean once you adjust a bit. I have done no work to it, other that adjust the short screw. It did reduce some of the spring tension that others have remarked on, resulting in lighter pull to the wall and crisper break.

Also the information on how to set this gun up is sorely lacking, a good manual, would be nice. Mine was missing, so hopefully get one on line.

That said, cocking lever forward vs. standard action on a bull pup, this gun is very comfortable and easy to shoot, good for small game out to 80 to 100 with the Monsters in .22. There are cheaper offerings, but nothing comes close for comfort to this in My opinion at the price point. Light and easy to carry, really accurate, flawless cycling, sturdy platform. I have Taipan Vet, long. Impact MK II .30, Delta Wolf .30 in the bull pup config.

Bottom line, at first you have to make some adjustments to trigger definitely, figure out how to adjust Hammer spring tension(long screw in stock under trigger assy, looks like a trigger adjust but pretty sure it's hammer spring so...please check me on that...counter for more power clock wise for less...

Once you get those tweaked a bit, you will come to most likely similar conclusion, this gun is really comfortable to shoot and has impressive power and accuracy for such a small platform...great plinker and small game woods walker...


 
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My son picked up a Walther Reign and we checked the shot string w 14.3g chps . If anyone was interested. Seems like it's a powerful airgun and we'll try some heavier ammo when weather permits. 210 bar fill down to 100 bar or so.


Shot count: 51
Low: 675
Hi: 1093
Avg: 983
STD Dev: 97.3
Spread: 418.0

1/9/23 2:41:06 PM,1055
1/9/23 2:41:17 PM,1062
1/9/23 2:41:51 PM,1058
1/9/23 2:42:03 PM,1062
1/9/23 2:42:11 PM,1072
1/9/23 2:42:18 PM,1086
1/9/23 2:42:24 PM,1081
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1/9/23 2:45:28 PM,1093
1/9/23 2:45:42 PM,1088
1/9/23 2:46:06 PM,1086
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1/9/23 2:46:29 PM,1079
1/9/23 2:46:38 PM,1074
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1/9/23 2:47:23 PM,1060
1/9/23 2:47:31 PM,1053
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1/9/23 2:50:19 PM,1037
1/9/23 2:50:32 PM,1030
1/9/23 2:50:49 PM,1025
1/9/23 2:51:06 PM,1016
1/9/23 2:51:27 PM,1009
1/9/23 2:51:44 PM,997
1/9/23 2:51:55 PM,990
1/9/23 2:52:11 PM,993
1/9/23 2:52:46 PM,979
1/9/23 2:56:58 PM,977
1/9/23 2:57:06 PM,972
1/9/23 2:57:12 PM,963
1/9/23 2:57:15 PM,953
1/9/23 2:57:21 PM,944
1/9/23 2:57:24 PM,937
1/9/23 2:57:28 PM,930
1/9/23 2:57:32 PM,923
1/9/23 2:57:36 PM,926
1/9/23 2:57:39 PM,912
1/9/23 2:59:52 PM,912
1/9/23 3:00:03 PM,905
1/9/23 3:00:20 PM,902
1/9/23 3:00:32 PM,893
1/9/23 3:00:59 PM,879
1/9/23 3:01:13 PM,879
1/9/23 3:01:26 PM,870
1/9/23 3:01:38 PM,861
1/9/23 3:01:52 PM,858
1/9/23 3:02:51 PM,851
1/9/23 3:05:06 PM,687
1/9/23 3:05:12 PM,675
 
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MikeVV said:
Interesting.
I've never messed with my Reign. Shot count or high - low fps. Just shoot it, don't care about the rest on this gun. As long as it keeps shooting, and shooting accurately. And...so far it has.


Headshots -
How do you and your son like the Reign so far ?

Mike
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Pros
Paid 350$ from Umerex for a Made in Germany pcp.
Smooth action
Nice magazine
Good feel for off hand shooting.
Hitting 37 fpe with 14.3 chps. Should easily hit 40+ fpe with heavier pellets
Solid Lothar Walther barrel
Picatinny rail for scope and bipod.
The barrel was the clean out of the box.
Mounted the scope and it was only about an inch off the bullseye at 25 yards. First ever .

Cons
Trigger needs to be adjusted. Feels like a long mushy single stage . Should easily get better after adjusting.
It's going to need some heavy pellets to get down around 900 fps.
Hammer spring isn't easily adjustable .

He is really happy with his first pcp. I almost purchased one for myself.
 
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The best thing to do rather than complain about a 550 dollar gun which will never come stock like a 3000 dollar pcp gun. So be happy with it damn and enjoy shooting poop. Blow up spray cans shot birds. ***MODERATED CONTED REMOVED*** Whatever it is just enjoy the gun. Complaining never will get u anywhere. Life is too short. The fun in my books is awesome. Hell I killed a deer at 75 yards with hit. Heart shot dropped it.


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I bought mine in .22 specifically to shoot my 30 gr cast slugs (actually 28.5 gr with the longest HP pins installed) and it's a true 40 fpe beast in a small package. I did the trigger return spring mod and I'm planning to remove the factory mod and address the buzz from the stock during the shot cycle eventually. As it sits now, it's fun, powerful and accurate. I fill to 2800 psi and get 20 shots.
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