30-Yard Challenge
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Shot another 198 with 15Xs this evening at about 840 fps. I would prefer a couple more points but I don't think I can blame the tune. Two 198s in a row is pretty good for me.
Your statistics look great, however, Tommy. I have not chronographed a whole target with my tune, I probably should.
Your statistics look great, however, Tommy. I have not chronographed a whole target with my tune, I probably should.
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This is my highest score with my S200 so far. I know it’s got it in it to get a 200. The reg seems to have settled in. I did two 80 shot strings earlier today. I’m enjoying my evening shooting sessions.
Air Arms S200 177
FX 10.3gr
Sightron 36x w/ Vector adjustable mounts
715fps
Huma mod 30
Eaglevision harmonic tuner
Air Arms S200 177
FX 10.3gr
Sightron 36x w/ Vector adjustable mounts
715fps
Huma mod 30
Eaglevision harmonic tuner
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Yeah, Jim. Not sure you should change anything since 840 fps just resulted in you shooting two back to back 198’s. Besides, my Vet 2 has a speed dial on the back which allows a pretty wide range of velocity on adjusting the HS. Have not needed to touch my factory reg setting, which is around 135 BAR.
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I've never had my reg past 120 which I did for shooting 21 grain H&N slugs. Changing the reg on the Caiman is also the worst of any of my guns but still completely possible. You have to remove the entire air tube while it's still pressurized to get to the degassing screw, pull the regulator, and make your adjustment. The stock is a clamshell that has to be removed first to get to anything. So I only do it if I really think I need to. Hammer spring is externally accessable but, due to the pivoting hammer, it is not real linear in it's response. Still very adjustable. Half a turn will sometimes give you the same response as 1/4 turn in a different point of adjustment.
I shot a partial target this morning and got some velocities which I put into my spreadsheet to give results. I quit because I missed a wind shift and had three shots go to the left on me in a row. I was a little disgusted with myself. But the velocities help to confirm my tune, I think. They ranged from 844 to 832 so an ES of 12 and a Std Dev of 2.94 over 22 shots. Average is 839 and that gives 34.22. I killed a little raccoon with my P35-22 tuned to 32 fpe so I don't think I need more fpe for pests or putting holes in paper. But 40 fpe seems like a good number too.
I shot a partial target this morning and got some velocities which I put into my spreadsheet to give results. I quit because I missed a wind shift and had three shots go to the left on me in a row. I was a little disgusted with myself. But the velocities help to confirm my tune, I think. They ranged from 844 to 832 so an ES of 12 and a Std Dev of 2.94 over 22 shots. Average is 839 and that gives 34.22. I killed a little raccoon with my P35-22 tuned to 32 fpe so I don't think I need more fpe for pests or putting holes in paper. But 40 fpe seems like a good number too.
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Ed,
198-18X 30y Masters is a framer!
When one of our family takes a particularly good i-Phone photo of one of the Grandkids, Papa ( this is what they call me) says, “That’s a framer.” Then we send to Frameo so we can see that photo now and again.
You should re-score 12A. I was looking at your 30Y Challenge card, and you may have accidentally jipped yourself out of scoring a “200.”
If the paper in the left edge of that hole is slightly torn, you can turn the card over and push the hole flush with your thumb and re-plug the hole. Sometimes, this moves the hole slightly further from the 10 ring line, because the torn paper is now more accurately reflecting the actual hole without benefiting from the tear. If it still scores a “9” you accurately scored correctly the first time.
From the image shown, it looks like your .22 scoring plug will touch the black line. If you didn’t already throw away this card, re-score it.
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Hi Tommy,
Yeah, that 200 18X was the best 30-Masters that I've ever shot. I don't shoot at 30 nearly as much as I shoot at 40 this past year - unless I'm shooting .177 or a low powered .22.
I agree that the 30-Challenge card could be a 200. I actually posted a close up of 12A with a sliver of white showing - but the paper was a bit ripped from the shot. I definitely could have taken a picture that showed it as a 10 - and scored 200. I recall the reason I didn't score it as 200 is that I tend to shoot a rifle less once I've got a 200 on the leaderboard - Having a 199 on the 30-Challenge leaderboard still gives me a reason to shoot the Taipan at 30 yards. I know for certain that I'm not beating 200 18X on the 30-Masters leaderboard with it this year - that was an insane card.
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First off - my apologies for not getting a Leaderboard Update posted recently. It's been amazing weather here - best weather of the year - and I'm having a blast in my first year retired... riding motorcycle, shooting and just enjoying life. I promise to get a Leaderboard posted in September.
Speaking of leaderboards - its getting dang tough at this point of the year to beat some of my previous scores - I'm sure its the same for you guys...
I shot this 198 13X 30-Masters with the Weihrauch HW110 a couple days ago - and it doesn't beat the 198 14X I shot previously. I shot just two cards yesterday with FX PowerPup - both 40-Masters - the 1st was a 193 7X is very breezy conditions (weather app said 8-14 mph) using .22 JTS 22.07g (PowerPup shot a 200 40-Challenge with the JTS earlier this year). The second card was this 197 11X using AEA 21.9g - exact same settings as the JTS. Last year I'd be thrilled with a 197 40-Masters in the wind - this year I'm just satisfied, lol - so my shooting must be improving. Hope its the same for you guys. This 197 with AEA does NOT top the 198 12X I already had on the 40-Masters leaderboard with the PowerPup and JTS - but it certainly was an awesome wind card - I nailed a few wind changes - proud of that.
BTW, these large "ground squirrels" showed up in my neighbors yard (about 5 houses away) two days ago. I'm not sure if I can dispatch these critters with a .177... I may have to break out the .25 Prophet or even the .30 Wildcat... what do you think, lol...
-Ed
Speaking of leaderboards - its getting dang tough at this point of the year to beat some of my previous scores - I'm sure its the same for you guys...
I shot this 198 13X 30-Masters with the Weihrauch HW110 a couple days ago - and it doesn't beat the 198 14X I shot previously. I shot just two cards yesterday with FX PowerPup - both 40-Masters - the 1st was a 193 7X is very breezy conditions (weather app said 8-14 mph) using .22 JTS 22.07g (PowerPup shot a 200 40-Challenge with the JTS earlier this year). The second card was this 197 11X using AEA 21.9g - exact same settings as the JTS. Last year I'd be thrilled with a 197 40-Masters in the wind - this year I'm just satisfied, lol - so my shooting must be improving. Hope its the same for you guys. This 197 with AEA does NOT top the 198 12X I already had on the 40-Masters leaderboard with the PowerPup and JTS - but it certainly was an awesome wind card - I nailed a few wind changes - proud of that.
BTW, these large "ground squirrels" showed up in my neighbors yard (about 5 houses away) two days ago. I'm not sure if I can dispatch these critters with a .177... I may have to break out the .25 Prophet or even the .30 Wildcat... what do you think, lol...
-Ed
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Ok, makes sense.
I’m 100% certain you can get a 200 with your Vet for the 30y Challenge, since you get to eliminate 4 bulls.
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Leaderboard submission:
Date: 9/10/25
Target: 30-Masters
Score: 199 17X
Rifle: Daystate Huntsman Regal (originally unregged - I added reg with big plenum)
Pellet: AEA 15.9g (chrony string was 805-810 across 21 shots including sighter)
Scope: Athlon Midas Tac 6x24 FFP at 24X
Conditions: almost perfect wind conditions - very dim light
I believe I pulled 3a (8th target shot... I go top to bottom and alternate L to R, drop down and then R to L).
I was doing some testing with AEA 15.9s in the Regal - as I've got an upcoming Regal to tune for this pellet. This may be the 1st 21 shots with this pellet in my Regal. WOW !! I'll take 17 Xs on a Masters Card every day, lol.
-Ed
Date: 9/10/25
Target: 30-Masters
Score: 199 17X
Rifle: Daystate Huntsman Regal (originally unregged - I added reg with big plenum)
Pellet: AEA 15.9g (chrony string was 805-810 across 21 shots including sighter)
Scope: Athlon Midas Tac 6x24 FFP at 24X
Conditions: almost perfect wind conditions - very dim light
I believe I pulled 3a (8th target shot... I go top to bottom and alternate L to R, drop down and then R to L).
I was doing some testing with AEA 15.9s in the Regal - as I've got an upcoming Regal to tune for this pellet. This may be the 1st 21 shots with this pellet in my Regal. WOW !! I'll take 17 Xs on a Masters Card every day, lol.
-Ed
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Possible Leaderboard Submission: (and sad report for rifle used)
Date: 9/20/25
Target: 40-Challenge
Score: 198 17X (17 Xs at 40 !!)
Rifle: FX Dreamline PowerPup
Pellet: AEA 21.9g @ 888-895fps
Scope: Sightron SII 36X
This may be the best 40 Yard card I've ever shot. My lone sighter was an X, then the 1st 15 targets were Xs. That's 16 straight Xs at 40 yards - I could not believe it.
I should have stopped after 20 targets and submitted as a 198 17X 40-Masters... but I went for the 200 and shot two 19Xs on the last row. I may have this 17X card replace my 200 12X card on the leaderboard - a 17X card is more impressive than the 200.
Sad part: After this card I tried another 40-Masters - it was only a 185 and 8X. I noticed velocity was spiking...
... then I put up another card and the three chrony velocities were 865, 870 and then BANG! 1,009fps. The rifle sounded like a .22 rimfire on the 1,009 shot. I checked fill pressure and reg pressure - they are both fine. So, I'm guessing that the valve had a "rapid spontaneous disassembly" (it exploded, lol). Rifle won't shoot, very sad - I'll have to rip it apart and replace the valve. I had it shooting so nice - it is almost silent despite 39 ft/lbs and using only a small Donny FL Tanto moderator.
Before the PowerPup died, I had Becky take my picture with it - after shooting the 17X card. Hopefully it will shoot as well after it undergoes surgery.
-Ed
Date: 9/20/25
Target: 40-Challenge
Score: 198 17X (17 Xs at 40 !!)
Rifle: FX Dreamline PowerPup
Pellet: AEA 21.9g @ 888-895fps
Scope: Sightron SII 36X
This may be the best 40 Yard card I've ever shot. My lone sighter was an X, then the 1st 15 targets were Xs. That's 16 straight Xs at 40 yards - I could not believe it.
I should have stopped after 20 targets and submitted as a 198 17X 40-Masters... but I went for the 200 and shot two 19Xs on the last row. I may have this 17X card replace my 200 12X card on the leaderboard - a 17X card is more impressive than the 200.
Sad part: After this card I tried another 40-Masters - it was only a 185 and 8X. I noticed velocity was spiking...
... then I put up another card and the three chrony velocities were 865, 870 and then BANG! 1,009fps. The rifle sounded like a .22 rimfire on the 1,009 shot. I checked fill pressure and reg pressure - they are both fine. So, I'm guessing that the valve had a "rapid spontaneous disassembly" (it exploded, lol). Rifle won't shoot, very sad - I'll have to rip it apart and replace the valve. I had it shooting so nice - it is almost silent despite 39 ft/lbs and using only a small Donny FL Tanto moderator.
Before the PowerPup died, I had Becky take my picture with it - after shooting the 17X card. Hopefully it will shoot as well after it undergoes surgery.
-Ed
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No high score today. I am going to clean the barrel tomorrow on the S200, I'm not sure how many pellets it has since the last time I cleaned it. It was a windy gusty day, so i took the notos out and shot a 169 haha.
Today I searched my phone for all the 30YC targets I photographed. I'm sure I am missing a few.
Today I searched my phone for all the 30YC targets I photographed. I'm sure I am missing a few.
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No high scores this weekend. I matched my best with the S200 this evening with a 197. The target on the left I shot first. After shooting the first two of the right target realized my dominant arm elbow was not resting on a small bag like i usually do. I have boney elbows, so usually I notice it. Once i realized it I could see the instability it was causing. 36x glass makes that possible. The 192 was some time this morning. It was a quick shoot after doing some landscaping while the little guy napped.
And you will notice I took some time today and made a paper-saver target that only goes to 8. I’m chasing 200 with this rifle so it’s all i need. I tried finding the circumference of the x-10-9-8 but couldn’t. If anyone can help me i would appreciate it.
And you will notice I took some time today and made a paper-saver target that only goes to 8. I’m chasing 200 with this rifle so it’s all i need. I tried finding the circumference of the x-10-9-8 but couldn’t. If anyone can help me i would appreciate it.
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After spending most of the afternoon sitting in my chair watching car races, I went outside stretch my legs and discovered that wind conditions were absolutely non-existent. Since it was already 5:30 p.m. I figured I might be able to shoot a card or two before dark or the wind kicked up again. Put out two flags, a 30 yd card and selected a proven tin of pellets I had stashed. The tails on the wind flags never quivered for the seven or eight minutes I spent shooting the card. Finally managed to get that elusive 20th X this year for the 30 yd Master Class to replace my existing score.
Marvin
Marvin
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Hi Guys,
Tried something a bit different today. Tommy and Ed knew this was coming - I shot a 30yd Challenge Card from the Field Target (Hunter Class) position to see what I could do. I am including a picture (below) of me in the shooting position. We are allowed to use shooting sticks and a stool, but must support the rifle with the shoulder and trigger hand. The shooting sticks cannot be attached to the rifle. The stool can be almost anything you want - some folks use 5-gallon buckets. In the pic I am using my spiral wheel on the parallax knob to range the target. When shooting my left hand is usually on the stick and touching the rifle fore stock.
So the result was certainly not good enough for a leaderboard submission, but I am really pleased with it. A 191 -9X in a 6-7 mph head wind. Only one 8 out of 24 shots (way better on that with this rifle than normal).
To kind of put this level of shooting in perspective I have plotted the 20 scoring shots on a graph replicating the targets we use and the blue circles represent the size of the .22 scoring pin centered on the center of the .177 pellet hole. All 20 shots fall completely under a dime - and this is not a great card!. The dime is 0.705 inches in diameter (about 18mm). A 3/4" kill zone on a 30 yd target has a rating or 40 in FT. Anything rated 40 or above is considered an "expert" level target. There will be multiple "expert" level targets in a typical match.
So maybe we should consider having a Leaderboard category for non-BR positions with a column indication position ( FT, Prone, Off-hand, ...)?
Cheers,
Greg
Tried something a bit different today. Tommy and Ed knew this was coming - I shot a 30yd Challenge Card from the Field Target (Hunter Class) position to see what I could do. I am including a picture (below) of me in the shooting position. We are allowed to use shooting sticks and a stool, but must support the rifle with the shoulder and trigger hand. The shooting sticks cannot be attached to the rifle. The stool can be almost anything you want - some folks use 5-gallon buckets. In the pic I am using my spiral wheel on the parallax knob to range the target. When shooting my left hand is usually on the stick and touching the rifle fore stock.
So the result was certainly not good enough for a leaderboard submission, but I am really pleased with it. A 191 -9X in a 6-7 mph head wind. Only one 8 out of 24 shots (way better on that with this rifle than normal).
To kind of put this level of shooting in perspective I have plotted the 20 scoring shots on a graph replicating the targets we use and the blue circles represent the size of the .22 scoring pin centered on the center of the .177 pellet hole. All 20 shots fall completely under a dime - and this is not a great card!. The dime is 0.705 inches in diameter (about 18mm). A 3/4" kill zone on a 30 yd target has a rating or 40 in FT. Anything rated 40 or above is considered an "expert" level target. There will be multiple "expert" level targets in a typical match.
So maybe we should consider having a Leaderboard category for non-BR positions with a column indication position ( FT, Prone, Off-hand, ...)?
Cheers,
Greg
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Hey Marvin
Congrats to you!
One thing nice about having a mini shooting range in your backyard, is that you can pick your time and conditions relative to having favorable wind and when to shoot. I wish I had the same.
20x’s in a row is remarkable in any outdoor environment. What I appreciate even more is that this achievement is accomplished wit a .177, a light pellet and with relatively low velocity.
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