New member here, I was thinking about a new hartsen .30 cal, they make a piston rifle but know nothing on big bore. Real question I guess is pcp or piston.
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Ray
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Ray
.30 pcp or piston
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IF you haven't spent time with a Magnum Spring Gun? You will hate the Hatsan .30 break barrel!
Heavy, has a rough shot cycle, and a brand new one still needs work. Had several.
A .30 PCP is a pleasure to shoot with no recoil and depending on brand? Can be a light carry Gun.
But you have to figure out the cost to fill it.
Heavy, has a rough shot cycle, and a brand new one still needs work. Had several.
A .30 PCP is a pleasure to shoot with no recoil and depending on brand? Can be a light carry Gun.
But you have to figure out the cost to fill it.
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Ray,
Welcome to the forum, glad you're here. When I joined, couple years back, got some great advice to check out the 9-part Matt Dubber video series, "Air Gun Ballistics 101." The videos are short, easy to follow and really bring you up to speed. Recommend the same before any purchase, come back with specific questions, plenty here willing to help. Best of Luck, WM
Welcome to the forum, glad you're here. When I joined, couple years back, got some great advice to check out the 9-part Matt Dubber video series, "Air Gun Ballistics 101." The videos are short, easy to follow and really bring you up to speed. Recommend the same before any purchase, come back with specific questions, plenty here willing to help. Best of Luck, WM
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The 135 and 130QE are good guns. They are a beast to cock. But performs well at 50yds or less. There is a learning curve to shooting magnum spring-piston guns. But if you keep at it and practice they are awesome. Remember especially with a magnum spring-piston gun use a light hold let the gun do the work.
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I started off in springers. And when the Carnivoire .30 came out, I jist had to have it. And unlike a lot of folks mine was hunting grade accurate, and loads of fun to shoot. Plus... I didn't need all the complexity of support equipment. I still have mine, and still shoot it. I love the Magnums, and this beast is one indeed.
However... All the cyclic challenges that come with shooting a springer accurately, are amplified with the extreme violence that's let loose when you finally get that heavy trigger to break. But if you've honed your springer form, you'll quickly scale your form, and have a good time with it.
Budget is gonna be key. Pricewise... It's an arguably huge jump, going from springer to PCP. (Yes, I know about the Gucci springers. I have a few.)
P.S. Don't let folks run you off if you want one, by extolling the difficulties of cooking this rifle. FFS, if you can break a lug-nut loose to change your tire, you'll be fine.
However... All the cyclic challenges that come with shooting a springer accurately, are amplified with the extreme violence that's let loose when you finally get that heavy trigger to break. But if you've honed your springer form, you'll quickly scale your form, and have a good time with it.
Budget is gonna be key. Pricewise... It's an arguably huge jump, going from springer to PCP. (Yes, I know about the Gucci springers. I have a few.)
P.S. Don't let folks run you off if you want one, by extolling the difficulties of cooking this rifle. FFS, if you can break a lug-nut loose to change your tire, you'll be fine.
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Umarex Gauntlet 30 will be the cheapest kick-ass 30 cal "hunting rifle"
I had a Hatsan Mod 125 in .25 caliber, it shot too slow. Imagine a slightly more powerful piston trying to shoot almost twice the weight. Use a slingshot instead.
I also had an AEA HP SS 30+ that shot JSB 44.75 grain somewhere between 600-700 fps. I imagine that would be quite the punch to the gut, but only good for short range.
The two 30 calibers I shoot now are Guantlet 2 30 with 64 grain slugs flying over 900 fps and an AEA Challenger Pro kicking out 130+ fpe with unbelievable accuracy downrange.
Unless you are buying something that can push JSB 44.75 grain 900+ fps you should be looking at smaller caliber. You'll get better penetration with a 25 shooting fast than a 30 shooting slow.
AEA Challenger 30 with a regulator is around $400 too. These powerful 30's sound a lot like a rimfire without a suppressor though.
I had a Hatsan Mod 125 in .25 caliber, it shot too slow. Imagine a slightly more powerful piston trying to shoot almost twice the weight. Use a slingshot instead.
I also had an AEA HP SS 30+ that shot JSB 44.75 grain somewhere between 600-700 fps. I imagine that would be quite the punch to the gut, but only good for short range.
The two 30 calibers I shoot now are Guantlet 2 30 with 64 grain slugs flying over 900 fps and an AEA Challenger Pro kicking out 130+ fpe with unbelievable accuracy downrange.
Unless you are buying something that can push JSB 44.75 grain 900+ fps you should be looking at smaller caliber. You'll get better penetration with a 25 shooting fast than a 30 shooting slow.
AEA Challenger 30 with a regulator is around $400 too. These powerful 30's sound a lot like a rimfire without a suppressor though.
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I have a 25 springer from hatsan it's a hammer for a springer but like stated above 50 or less yards is best
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Pcps are easier to shoot more power also but you need a fill source which a springer doesnt
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Not even a question, not even in the same galaxy.
the .30 break barrel is a heavy, hard to shoot and cock rifle that only gives you only about 500 + fps
A .30 PCP ( I would stay away from Hatsan ) will be lighter, more accurate and vastly more powerful,..most .30 PCPs are easily in the 900 fps range
the .30 break barrel is a heavy, hard to shoot and cock rifle that only gives you only about 500 + fps
A .30 PCP ( I would stay away from Hatsan ) will be lighter, more accurate and vastly more powerful,..most .30 PCPs are easily in the 900 fps range
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