.25 + Small Game + 10 - 15 yards = Overkill???

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If one were hunting squirrels with a .25 and there were a slight breeze and a jack rabbit hops into view at 50 yards, that person could take said rabbit, if the same person had a .22 they might think about it, and if that same person had a .177, they would wish they had a .25.

My point is, "you never know, (100%) the range and game type and a .25 hedges all bets".

I just got my first .25 3 days ago and I am amazed at it power.

 
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"T3PRanch"CO2 is cheaper but will generally provide less power than Compressed air or Nitrogen which should not be an issue in your case I would think. I ran a different gun on CO2 for a brief time and once I shot it on Compressed gas at 3000 psi fill pressure I never used CO2 Again BUT I have a very Large amount of land (not near any city) and no nearby neighbors which lends itself to a totally different type of shooting environment than yours.

If you got a hand pump and Marauder for that price you did just fine. Remember since the gun is dual fuel you don't have to pump to 3K psi. You can simulate CO2 with less pressure which equates to a lot less pumping.

I shoot both those pellets but since I use mostly 3K PSI (or more in the case of a different gun) I go with the JSB Heavys (I have 25 tins on hand). You will be fine with the lighter one for your shooting.

Thurmond
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I will give CO2 a try. I would also think that the decrease in power will not be an issue for me. What I like about it is that it is cheaper and that I might not have to drive 30 miles to my nearest Scuba Shop.

I bought the Marauder for $480 and the pump was an extra $172. Just to clarify. 

Not sure what you mean by "simulate CO2"???

Copy that in regards to the pellet input. 

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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"JDShapp"Personally I have 3 pellets I use for my .25 Marauder, well more like 2. I usually stick to using JSB or Air Arms 25gr pellets, but if I find myself going up against a particularly tough critter I break out my predator polymags. Those things are nasty pieces of work if they're accurate in your rifle. From personal experience I've taken raccoons with heart/lung shots with them in the past.

Also for a bone stock .25 Marauder you're going to be getting about 16 idea shots per fill.
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Thanks for the input. I ordered:

Air Arms Field .25 Cal, 25.4 Grains, Domed, 350ctJSB Match Diabolo Exact King .25 Cal, 25.39 Grains, Domed, 350ctJSB Match Diabolo Exact King MKII Heavy .25 Cal, 33.95 Grains, Domed, 300ct

I'll see how it goes.

18 shots per fill sounds lousy! Is it the caliber that makes it so "few"? I thought most guns get around 60 -70. I could be completely wrong though... : )
I will check my local fire stations. I heard that some of them can and will fill scuba bottles. If that is the case, I will be getting a damn carbon fiber bottle very soon!

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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"JohnL57"You'll probably love that .25, I know mine is great-except for the shot count! I shoot my .22 Marauder far more than the .25 for that reason. 
Enjoy your .25!
John
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Yeah, I can see that the low shot count might be a "problem". We'll see. However, since I really do not need max power the gun can produce, I am going to lower it. Would half the power mean twice the shot count???

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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"AirgunBill"
John nails it on the shot count which is only about 16 shots for the .25 caliber. When I heard that your varmints are prairie dogs and ground squirrels that means you can sit down in place and take dozens of shots in an outing.
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Well, yes an no. There not that many Prairie Dogs around. Maybe for once that is a good thing, ha ha. It would be way more frustrating, to have many around and not being able to shot them, because you ran out of air. 

That means before you know it you will have to be standing up in the heat and doing some fairly strenuous pumping to get the rifle ready to shoot again. That's why I suggested the FX Gladiator as one of the rifle choices. While it is a heavier rifle that won't matter as much as you can walk to a prairie dog town and sit down and have at them. The Gladiator will get well over a hundred shots per fill. I would rather spend most of my time shooting and not pumping a rifle while in the field. In general I would rather have a carbon fiber 4500 psi tank to fill such a large capacity rifle as the Gladiator.

I hear you. Two problems though... I do not like the looks of the gun. For that kind of money, I would rather get the FX Impact or FX Indy. Problem with is that the Impact would not be available until December!!! 

Not to bust your bubble here or dampen you spirit but just want to give you an idea of whats ahead. Bill

Bill, no such thing. I totally appreciate every, and all, honest feedback and input!

Got another idea since your going with the Mrod to get the Guppy 4500 psi carbon fiber tank from Air Tanks For Sale. It is light enough to carry with you in the field in a backpack. You can then top off your rifle for about 13 times or 208 shots. Cost of the tank and fill system about $400

http://www.airtanksforsale.com/ 

Not a bad idea. I have been looking at the exact same setup. Again, would it mean that if I reduced the power to half, I would get twice as many shots per fill? 208 shots is technically not that bad. still, 400+ would be even better. 

As I am writing this, I realized that I am "testing" out a new job. The scuba shop is not that far from my new work place and as such it wouldn't be that big of a deal to drive there and have the tank filled. However, having to do so for every 200 shots would be not cheap, as they charge $12 - 15 bucks...

Thanks,

Kmd

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"Winged"If one were hunting squirrels with a .25 and there were a slight breeze and a jack rabbit hops into view at 50 yards, that person could take said rabbit, if the same person had a .22 they might think about it, and if that same person had a .177, they would wish they had a .25.

My point is, "you never know, (100%) the range and game type and a .25 hedges all bets".

I just got my first .25 3 days ago and I am amazed at it power.

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Agreed.
 
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"JDShapp"Honestly if you want more shots you can do what I did and get a SSG setup. I had some really good results staying at near stock power and gaining shot count. I can easily squeeze out 32 shots on it now.

What the SSG does is it reduces or in some cases eliminates hammer bounce so that the air rifle doesn't waste air.

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I just looked up their website. Interesting mod. Thanks for pointing it out...
 
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"ztirffritz"I have an SSG in my Marauder and I have it tuned to shoot at about 850fps with JSB kings 25.4gr. Those are pretty much the standard that all other pellets are measured against in my opinion. I get about 16 shots. I had it tuned a little lower for a while and was getting almost 32 shots.
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Huh?! I thought a stock Marauder will get you 16 shots. So how can a modded one get you the same amount of shots?

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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Got another idea since your going with the Mrod to get the Guppy 4500 psi carbon fiber tank from Air Tanks For Sale. It is light enough to carry with you in the field in a backpack. You can then top off your rifle for about 13 times or 208 shots. Cost of the tank and fill system about $400

Not a bad idea. I have been looking at the exact same setup. Again, would it mean that if I reduced the power to half, I would get twice as many shots per fill? 208 shots is technically not that bad. still, 400+ would be even better. 

As I am writing this, I realized that I am "testing" out a new job. The scuba shop is not that far from my new work place and as such it wouldn't be that big of a deal to drive there and have the tank filled. However, having to do so for every 200 shots would be not cheap, as they charge $12 - 15 bucks...

Kmd the main reason I suggested the Guppy for a fill tank was for mobility but of course it is the least cost effective way size wise to provide air to your rifle. If you don't travel far from you vehicle you could buy the Tiger Shark 72 cu ft tank and get 47 fills for your Mrod or 752 shots. Or get the Great White 97 cu ft tank and get 63 fills or 1008 shots per tank. One thing about PCP rifles you need to watch out filling your rifle in dusty, dirty conditions with wind blowing where you could introduce dirt into your PCP. 

I think also you will find it is not feasible to cut the power level down that much in the Mrod. The rifles are set up for a certain power range and where you can make it a little more efficient you can't make it shoot at half power with out major component changes. In a way I was thinking the Hatsan rifles might have been a better choice. In my AT44 10 .22 I get 24 shots per fill within 25 fps and the rifle has a removable air reservoir to allow you to carry spares. Depending on the model of Hatsan spare air reservoirs cost $90 to $150. Just some more thoughts. Bill

Thanks,

Kmd

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"kmd1984"
"JohnL57"You'll probably love that .25, I know mine is great-except for the shot count! I shoot my .22 Marauder far more than the .25 for that reason. 
Enjoy your .25!
John
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Yeah, I can see that the low shot count might be a "problem". We'll see. However, since I really do not need max power the gun can produce, I am going to lower it. Would half the power mean twice the shot count???

Thanks,

Kmd
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There are also bottle mods for the Marauder using an adapter to achieve an even larger shot count.
 
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"JohnL57"I too am very interested in the SSG mod. I'd be thrilled with 24 shots with my .25. Let me say this about tuning:
You need a chrony.
You need LOTS of air, pellets, time and patience!
Every gun is different.
If you don't record your adjustments carefully you can make things far worse, so go into it mindfully.
John
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I just ordered a Chrony.
I do not have lots of air... as of yet. : )
Pellets can be ordered...
I have ZERO patients, ha ha. 
I never record anything...

Looks like tuning an air rifle is not for me. : )

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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Kmd the main reason I suggested the Guppy for a fill tank was for mobility but of course it is the least cost effective way size wise to provide air to your rifle. If you don't travel far from you vehicle you could buy the Tiger Shark 72 cu ft tank and get 47 fills for your Mrod or 752 shots.

Its all good! 700+ shots sounds way better! : ) First things first though. Let me get the gun on Friday, start pumping, and we will see how that goes. 

Or get the Great White 97 cu ft tank and get 63 fills or 1008 shots per tank.

1000+ shots sounds even better! The way I am shooting right now, 1000 shots will last me month! HOWEVER, I am sure that I will be shooting way more often than I have with my springer!

One thing about PCP rifles you need to watch out filling your rifle in dusty, dirty conditions with wind blowing where you could introduce dirt into your PCP. 

Noted! Thanks. Speaking of tanks... How long can I keep them pressurized and what is the save lifespan of a tank? Carbon fiber that is...

I think also you will find it is not feasible to cut the power level down that much in the Mrod. The rifles are set up for a certain power range and where you can make it a little more efficient you can't make it shoot at half power with out major component changes. In a way I was thinking the Hatsan rifles might have been a better choice. In my AT44 10 .22 I get 24 shots per fill within 25 fps and the rifle has a removable air reservoir to allow you to carry spares. Depending on the model of Hatsan spare air reservoirs cost $90 to $150. Just some more thoughts. Bill

Bill, every thought is appreciated! I looked at Hatsan as well, especially the Gladius (I believe that is the name) and I really like it. Well, there are many guns I really like, and one of them is the FX Indy. That said, I am going to order two FX Impacts tonight. If you can. One for me, and one for someone that does not want to wait in line. They are not available until December though. What that means is, that I am either going to play with the Marauder until then, or get the Indy. I wish there was more info out there on the Indy!

Anyhow, lets wait until Friday and see how it goes.

Thanks again,

Kmd

 
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