22 compared to 25 caliber PCP

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I know this a matter of opinion but just how much advantage is there in long range shooting comparing a 22 to a 25. I'm comfortable shooting the 22 out to say 75 and maybe 100 yards. I've seen some of the video's of shooting pigeons off barn roofs at 75 yards. I that situation say hunting pigeons at 75 yards how much better is the 25.

Another way is asking this is what do you fellows who have 25 calibers use them for?

Just curious. Never shot a 25 don't know anyone who has one, I know some of you have both. Do I need a 25???
 
I know this a matter of opinion but just how much advantage is there in long range shooting comparing a 22 to a 25. I'm comfortable shooting the 22 out to say 75 and maybe 100 yards. I've seen some of the video's of shooting pigeons off barn roofs at 75 yards. I that situation say hunting pigeons at 75 yards how much better is the 25.

Another way is asking this is what do you fellows who have 25 calibers use them for?

Just curious. Never shot a 25 don't know anyone who has one, I know some of you have both. Do I need a 25???

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I don't know that you need the ,25 cal., but I bet you would really enjoy it.

I hear that the .25 caliber is fast becoming -- if not already is -- the most popular caliber. I can see why. I own several (7, to be exact).

With the availability of .25 cal. ammo., I see no reason to opt for anything less.
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So if you are not shooting over 100 yards no advantage ?
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I like the .22 for the back yard, up to 35 yards or so. The .25 is better in the wind so I use that at any distance.

The 22 was just easier to handle compared to my .25 Crown. With the Impact that isnt an issue, but it's still a bit over kill for sparrows or whatever at 20 yards. More expensive to shoot too.
 
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The new .22 JSB Redesigned Monster was a game changer for me. I sold my .25s as they use more air and ammo is more expensive. If I have to shoot much over 100 yds with any cal. I use the correct tool and go powder burner. I enjoy long range air gunning but the holdover and wind drift get to be pretty ridiculous for hunting and pesting.

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Are the JSB 25.4gr monsters in .22 caliber cheaper than the JSB 25.4gr monsters in .25 caliber?

Is the amount of air required to propel the 25.4gr in .22 cal a certain distance and velocity less than the amount of air required to propel the 25.4gr in .25 cal that same distance and velocity?
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The new .22 JSB Redesigned Monster was a game changer for me. I sold my .25s as they use more air and ammo is more expensive. If I have to shoot much over 100 yds with any cal. I use the correct tool and go powder burner. I enjoy long range air gunning but the holdover and wind drift get to be pretty ridiculous for hunting and pesting.
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That's pretty much what I needed to hear 
 
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Question, I only have .177's. I mostly shoot around the property. I have thought about getting a 22. Just to buy and try one. but I wonder about having to much power? The other day I shot my block wall from 75 yards and was surprised the pellet stuck in the block. Now just barley but that made me wonder if I would regret more foot pounds than the .177.



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Agree with oldsparky. .177 is the unltimate airgun cal. .22 can be useful & fun, .25 is an RF for most proposes. I am guessing there could be some airgunner who is in close proximity to something-house/car/person... A .177 at 20fpe+ at 70 yards would be lethal to anything in North America ( shot placement ). They travel well over 400 yards. A .25 gets out past 600 easily and 800_ yards with w higher BC. 

How well does "X" cal. shoot ? As well as the shooter. 6fpe in .177 is enough ( and fairly safely in crowded - think farm- ) environments to dispatch birds at 40 yards with certainty tho 12fpe will allow for lesser shot placement.

Just learn the wind. Trajectory is easy. Airguns are all about the wind, blowing, learn it and use airguns. A .25 costs the same as a RF to fire and has the same safety concerns as a .22 short unless powered up and shooting slugs then the same as a standard .22RF. Personally if I have a need for PB ballistics, in a safe place ( varminting or such) changing airgun cal. doesnt help me so I use the correct utility.

Now if your just talking about challenging yourself shooting airguns & learning & grinning , well, .177 ( okay not an option here so .22 ) is THE cal. 

Safe to use anything but you just like air and have the $ to spend having some fun maybe a maxed out .257 would require the least shooter compensation skill which is what most want these days.



John
 
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The new .22 JSB Redesigned Monster was a game changer for me. I sold my .25s as they use more air and ammo is more expensive. If I have to shoot much over 100 yds with any cal. I use the correct tool and go powder burner. I enjoy long range air gunning but the holdover and wind drift get to be pretty ridiculous for hunting and pesting.
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How far out have you shot the resdesigned .22? I remember one of Matt’s videos saying they were unstable past 50 yards.
 
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For me the .22 cal was the caliber that made the most sense. (In reguards to the most versitle caliber) 

I like my .22 cal. I think it's a claiber that has been overlooked too often.

(There are video on YT of guys dropping wild pigs with the .177 cal.)

I don't like the theory of "driving a thumb tack with a sledge hammer." So I don't want a bigger caliber. 

We buy these big $$$ guns Because of their precision! So in line with that I try and focus on precise shot placement. 

I got the Impact becasue of it's versitility and precision. 

Otherwise I might as well just buy a cheap gun in a 30 cal. and just go out there like a bull in a china shop, and clobber everything.

Now that the new slug liners are coming out for my FX Impact there should be no need to get anything larger.

Also I hate having to buy multiple calibers in pellets.

The .22 Can be powered down to 12 fpe and is awesome for pesting round the property or inside structures.

But should the need arise?
I can up the power and drop in slugs and take out small game at considerable distances.

I'm trying to get to the point of having only 1 or 2 guns.




 
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.25 cal here. The kill zone is increased by a LARGE margin going up in caliber size. I have the following power tunes.



19.91 gr = 18-25 fpe (back yard friendlier tune for small pests) I get 60+ shots per fill

25.4 = 42 fpe (small-medium pests) I get 40~ shots per fill

33.4 = 55 fpe (medium-large pests) I get 30~ shots per fill


Its not ALL about energy as a .22 can make similar power to a .25 but when both pellets are expanded the wound channel on a .25 cal is MUCH larger. 



I like to think I cover all my needs with the one air gun. I have even detuned my .25 cal down to 12 fpe (520 fps with 19.91 gr) and it is still deadly accurate up to 30 yards and gets nearly 100 shots a fill.


 
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I only have 0.22 airguns now. Had a 0.30 Daystate renegade and I rarely used it as for me it lost most of the benefits an airgun has over a powder burner, particularly in a suburban environment. That is, it was loud enough that any hopes of genuine stealth could be forgotten, it had more kick than allowed me to comfortably see my pellet in flight and I was constantly concerned in the knowledge this huge 50 grain 80fpe projectile could kill or injure at very long distances, beyond what my various local and semi rural permissions provide. 

All the benefits of larger calibers come with pretty big potential safety (and relative stealth) drawbacks so consider what it is you need and where you are hunting/PCing before going for them. As I said I don't have any 1000 hectare farm permissions like some here do and for them I imagine the bigger caliber are a good fit.
 
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