I was so excited for the 177 Hades because the .22 in my daystate Huntsman Regal are actually more accurate than the standard jsb jumbo. And that is the same result in my new Wildcat Mark 3 .22 sniper. I got 75 Chipmunks last year and over 75 already this year probably 50% both years with that daystate Regal and I can tell you for a fact that the Hades is way more brutal on game you can see it and you can absolutely hear it. At 920fps. But my daystate mk4 .177 doesn't like them at all. Whatever mojo jsb rubbed on the .22s I wish they would rub on the .177 and the .25