You are making me think.
Thinking is making my head hurt!
Good stuff brother, keep at it and we'll keep rooting for you.
Thinking is making my head hurt!
Good stuff brother, keep at it and we'll keep rooting for you.
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14.3 grain “Me” K slugs
- Thread starter C.B.Daddy
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Well hello 
again to all ! I’ve been hard at it and have made a little progress. I now have a completed .217” die and a couple other as well. I mistakenly drilled the hollow Point pin out way too big on one and I just put it To the side for now. The pin is too big for .22”but I think it will be great for .25”. Lord willing I’ll get to work on it in the near future. The other is .2175” , just a half of a thousandth over so I temporarily abandoned it. I didn’t want to take a chance with anything over .217”. I had a good amount of time in the one I over drilled. Ready to start using but that quick I ruined it!
Anyway, when the die was finally ready, all I had left was the swage/punch. Very time consuming
but I made it through and finally swaged my first 15 slugs. Here’s my first group. 
The left side is actually the bottom. That’s all fifteen at30 yards! I thought it was good enough to swage some more and SHOOT!!! 
Again the left side is the bottom. 
The ones on top are the .218” and .217” on bottom. As you may notice, the .217” have a slightly different profile than the .218”.
I am seeing the best results @938 FPS according to my chrony. My regulator is set around 135 bar and I think that I will bump it up just a hair dab more to see how things pan out. I would like to see the same accuracy that I see with the pellets. No matter what speed or reg press. It’s same hole.
Wow! Nobody told me that making your own bullets was so much work!
lord willing I’ll soon be back with some better results! Until then the lord be magnified!!!
again to all ! I’ve been hard at it and have made a little progress. I now have a completed .217” die and a couple other as well. I mistakenly drilled the hollow Point pin out way too big on one and I just put it To the side for now. The pin is too big for .22”but I think it will be great for .25”. Lord willing I’ll get to work on it in the near future. The other is .2175” , just a half of a thousandth over so I temporarily abandoned it. I didn’t want to take a chance with anything over .217”. I had a good amount of time in the one I over drilled. Ready to start using but that quick I ruined it!Anyway, when the die was finally ready, all I had left was the swage/punch. Very time consuming
I am seeing the best results @938 FPS according to my chrony. My regulator is set around 135 bar and I think that I will bump it up just a hair dab more to see how things pan out. I would like to see the same accuracy that I see with the pellets. No matter what speed or reg press. It’s same hole.
Wow! Nobody told me that making your own bullets was so much work!
lord willing I’ll soon be back with some better results! Until then the lord be magnified!!!
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number three group was the same as my old best group (.909”) . I decided I wanted the regulator just a little but higher so I pulled the Taipan apart one more time!!! Two hole spaces this time. Just barely moved it from one to the other twice. Not from one end to the other but the center to center distance between the holes on the adjustment collar/nut.
The regulator is between 135-140 as far as I can tell right now. I finished the projectiles I swaged and need to make some more to finalize my testing... but then again idk because I can stack crosmans all day , same hole cept when I move. So I may tune a little more to see what happens. With the current reg setting 911 FPS is where I’m at.
#10 group is .750”
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10 is a dang good group @ .750". I really need to get a regulator tester so I know exactly what it's set at. It's a bit of a guessing game.
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Thanks Bones ,I don’t have one either and yes it’s a guessing game but my other option is to not even try
. But it’s not that bad , it’s not the end of the world . Just run it through the chrony and see where your FPS changes. Don’t know what gun you’re using but mine drops 20 FPS or so, it’s definitely a noticeable difference in velocity. I have heard some talking about the change in the sound the gun makes when it goes off of the regulator but I haven’t been able to catch it. I notice no sound change as of yet.
One guy was rather discouraging in his video about regulator adjustment without a tester. And his reasoning seemed to be the amount of time it could possibly take due to not knowing the number and possibly having to disassemble and reassemble the gun multiple times if your desired results aren’t achieved..But its really not so bad, just a little common sense. Why do I need to know the exact number my regulator is shooting right now? I found where it was shooting good, the HST was maxed out so I bumped it a hair dab more to be able to get the same speed but with less hammer spring tension. Voila!
Don’t get me wrong. Of course you are limited without a regulator tester but not dead in the water.
Have a good’un
. But it’s not that bad , it’s not the end of the world . Just run it through the chrony and see where your FPS changes. Don’t know what gun you’re using but mine drops 20 FPS or so, it’s definitely a noticeable difference in velocity. I have heard some talking about the change in the sound the gun makes when it goes off of the regulator but I haven’t been able to catch it. I notice no sound change as of yet.One guy was rather discouraging in his video about regulator adjustment without a tester. And his reasoning seemed to be the amount of time it could possibly take due to not knowing the number and possibly having to disassemble and reassemble the gun multiple times if your desired results aren’t achieved..But its really not so bad, just a little common sense. Why do I need to know the exact number my regulator is shooting right now? I found where it was shooting good, the HST was maxed out so I bumped it a hair dab more to be able to get the same speed but with less hammer spring tension. Voila!
Don’t get me wrong. Of course you are limited without a regulator tester but not dead in the water.
Have a good’un
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Hola amigo! I had to shoot some of these large mouths
The Little scrape on the metal is my imaginary rat I first shot at then I decided to go for a five shot group.No bag just standing resting the bipod on top of the bench. 30 yards out to the target. 
I would’ve at least grazed his rat moustache if he’d of been real!
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As you can see in the picture the one shot was already there within the circle . And you know it happened so fast it can be difficult to see, but I did Hallelujah!!!
that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
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Howdy y’all!!!
an hour and a half of straight swaging . I really wanna get my press built to speed this up a little. 317 isn’t bad but if it was automated it would be better!!!!This ought to allow us to do some great testing over the next day or so.
I think I’m gonna start at 100 Yards.
Here are some 42 grain slugs I made. I don’t think I could go much bigger and still be able to load them without damage occurring.
I didn’t come up with the idea all by myself to make 42 grain slugs, I read a post by MT ghost , said he was looking for some 42 44 grain 22 slugs so I made some up real quick just to see what they were like and as you can see they are Huge!!!
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Hey hey hey ! Here’s a link to a short video of how I am swaging my slugs for the time being. I haven’t finished my press and am making due with what I have . It’s a very basic setup right now, but i really don’t think that the lead or the target know the difference.
https://youtu.be/5yVAZ6zELsI
! Here’s a link to a short video of how I am swaging my slugs for the time being. I haven’t finished my press and am making due with what I have . It’s a very basic setup right now, but i really don’t think that the lead or the target know the difference.https://youtu.be/5yVAZ6zELsI
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Wow, that is a lot of re-tool time between parts. You have a lot of dedicated effort built into each projectile.
Thanks for showing us your production. It brings home how much work it takes to produce your slugs.
Keep shootin' em good!
Thanks for showing us your production. It brings home how much work it takes to produce your slugs.
Keep shootin' em good!
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Jim Yes, about 10-14 seconds a piece when in beast mode, I had to slow things down for the video explanation
. XX2 slowmo >>lol Really though,While the amount of time it takes to produce them isn’t too terrible. (Just last night in thirty minutes I made 120.) manually removing them each time is definitely not the most efficient way ! But what it is , is a temporary bridge over one of the gaps of life. And I just cannot help but think about my final press design while I’m going through all of the steps.
In my wild imaginations I have conceived a machine that auto loads the pellet/core and ejects/removes it within the up and down stroke.
In reality I have to build a basic setup/press first in order to be able to move towards my end goal.
Nevertheless, like I said the target cannot tell how I’m getting there!!! I was shooting out to 90 yards last night after I adjusted the regulator one more time , and like the direction that it’s going I didn’t grab any pictures but I like what I saw. I have also been shooting them at 98, 124, 131, and 194 yards with pinpoint accuracy. Pick a rock or a leaf and let em fly!
It appears that the regulator is set at 145 as far as I can tell through repeated shot string speed testing. And I am hoping to be able to get some 5 shot groups at 100yards very soon.
I am Not certain but I think that I would not of had to adjust my regulator this high had I stuck with the lower size .2165”. But I wanted to make a die that would be more versatile to have versus something too small for the majority of the guns I encounter. I clearly saw that the rifling engagement was insignificant when the .2165” was pushed through the barrel versus being shot. Have you ever looked down the barrel of a loaded gun? When you load a pellet or slug have you ever looked to see how the projectile is seated within the barrel? Can you see the light passing through? What I’m getting at is that I already know that my slug was expanding fully engaging both the lands and grooves while at .2165” and I bumped it up a half a thousandth. With the regulator at 120 the gun struggled to stay consistent with the feet per second . The first time I adjusted the regulator to accommodate these projectiles I noticed an improvement and it seems as though now the problem is totally gone away. I’ve also noticed even though my regulator is higher and my feet per second is a little higher right now the gun is very quiet compared to shooting pellets.
. XX2 slowmo >>lol Really though,While the amount of time it takes to produce them isn’t too terrible. (Just last night in thirty minutes I made 120.) manually removing them each time is definitely not the most efficient way ! But what it is , is a temporary bridge over one of the gaps of life. And I just cannot help but think about my final press design while I’m going through all of the steps. In my wild imaginations I have conceived a machine that auto loads the pellet/core and ejects/removes it within the up and down stroke.
In reality I have to build a basic setup/press first in order to be able to move towards my end goal.
Nevertheless, like I said the target cannot tell how I’m getting there!!! I was shooting out to 90 yards last night after I adjusted the regulator one more time , and like the direction that it’s going I didn’t grab any pictures but I like what I saw. I have also been shooting them at 98, 124, 131, and 194 yards with pinpoint accuracy. Pick a rock or a leaf and let em fly!
It appears that the regulator is set at 145 as far as I can tell through repeated shot string speed testing. And I am hoping to be able to get some 5 shot groups at 100yards very soon.
I am Not certain but I think that I would not of had to adjust my regulator this high had I stuck with the lower size .2165”. But I wanted to make a die that would be more versatile to have versus something too small for the majority of the guns I encounter. I clearly saw that the rifling engagement was insignificant when the .2165” was pushed through the barrel versus being shot. Have you ever looked down the barrel of a loaded gun? When you load a pellet or slug have you ever looked to see how the projectile is seated within the barrel? Can you see the light passing through? What I’m getting at is that I already know that my slug was expanding fully engaging both the lands and grooves while at .2165” and I bumped it up a half a thousandth. With the regulator at 120 the gun struggled to stay consistent with the feet per second . The first time I adjusted the regulator to accommodate these projectiles I noticed an improvement and it seems as though now the problem is totally gone away. I’ve also noticed even though my regulator is higher and my feet per second is a little higher right now the gun is very quiet compared to shooting pellets.
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Here are some results that I’m seeing today . These are real time reports from my town Texas !!!I loaded each photo that I screenshot as I was making the shots, 3 to 5 shots per distance depending on the wind to validate the accuracy on my part .
!!!I loaded each photo that I screenshot as I was making the shots, 3 to 5 shots per distance depending on the wind to validate the accuracy on my part .Upvote 0
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Cool, so creative! This looks really great. Awesome long range shooting!!
Now, for me SLUGS really are great if they have a better BC than pellets, so for a 14.3 grainer I'd want to see a BC of 0.040 or better (as the pellets have around 0.020 give or take).
However, if I understand this correctly, when they are so light the BC is not going up that much.
So, I'd really be interested in getting a measured BC, say 10 to 20 shots averaged, with a chrono at 1ft and one at 50 yards, or even at 100 yards....
If they do have a good BC, that would be super interesting for lower powered guns when shooting in windy conditions or when stretching out to long range! I'd want to buy one of your contraptions!!
Thanks to all the inventors and innovators on the forums. What a great community!
Matthias
Now, for me SLUGS really are great if they have a better BC than pellets, so for a 14.3 grainer I'd want to see a BC of 0.040 or better (as the pellets have around 0.020 give or take).
However, if I understand this correctly, when they are so light the BC is not going up that much.
So, I'd really be interested in getting a measured BC, say 10 to 20 shots averaged, with a chrono at 1ft and one at 50 yards, or even at 100 yards....
If they do have a good BC, that would be super interesting for lower powered guns when shooting in windy conditions or when stretching out to long range! I'd want to buy one of your contraptions!!
Thanks to all the inventors and innovators on the forums. What a great community!
Matthias
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