12 ft-lb spring for HW97

Hi all, first post here. Been lurking for a while and I've got some great help so far, so I'm hoping you all can help me with a problem I'm having. I recently bought a used HW97k in 177 from Krale. I've only shot a few dozen shots through it and it is really accurate, but had a little twang that I was hoping to dull. Also, since I didn't know how much it was used, I went ahead and started tearing it down figuring I'd give it a cleaning and re-lube.

My problem lies in the fact that I'd like the gun to do around 12 ft-lb, and I'd like to buy just a spring, not a full tuning kit. However, it seems harder than I figured it would be to find a drop-in 12 ft-lb spring, nor much information on what to do to a particular spring to make it around 12 ft-lb. I can cut, collapse, and grind spring ends if needed, just need guidance on what to shoot for (# coils, overall length, etc). I've emailed Vortek but haven't received a response, and ARH's short responses are leaving me with more questions than answers--hence leading me here.

What I do know is that the spring that came out of it has 32 active coils (not counting collapsed ends, so maybe that is 34 depending on how you're supposed to count them) and is 10.5" long, which sticks out 1.5" from the spring tube. This leads me to believe it was the "full power" 16 ft-lb version, because I've seen a lot of comments and videos that suggest the end of the 12 ft-lb spring sits about at the end of the spring tube.

My use is backyard target shooting, nothing formal, so I don't need exactly just under 12 for competition or whatever, nor do I have a chrono to check it. Simply looking for advice on others who may have done this and ended up closer to 12 than the "full power" 16 ft-lb. At this point I'm considering buying the Hornet spring from ARH and compression-setting it then cutting/collapsing/grinding ends to be just over 9" long. However, that really is just a guess so I'm hoping others may have some advice on how to get a spring-only tune in the 12 ft-lb range.
 
I am looking for the same answer. I have a friend that bought a 12fpe from Krale a few months ago and tasked me with finding some more 12fpe springs as he wanted to buy some for back up (he shoots a lot). I came up with nothing. Like you ARH gives you an answer that leaves you with more questions but more or less said no. I was kind of surprised as I figured this would be an easy spring to get.
 
Vortek does make a 12fpe tune kit, but I don’t think that they make a drop in replacement 12fpe spring for the hw97k. Definitely ask them, but I suspect that Chambers is your best bet.

That said, I have the ARH Hornet tune kit and seal in my hw97k and I’m getting almost exactly 12fpe. If you get the Hornet spring, give it a try without any modifications first.



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Bought a synthetic thumbhole hw 97 from krale together with a Vmach 12 fpe kit. The 12fpe spring is about 2 in shorter than the 16 fpe stock spring. When mounted the 12fpe spring just extends maybe 1/4 in past the tube. If I were doing it, I would preheat the spring at the end with a propane torch to slightly compress it so there is some preload. Should land you bet 12 and 16 fpe.

The vmach kit was at about 11.8 fpe.
 
Don't mean to hijack this thread but while on this subject are there any recommendations for a 9-10fpe spring for 177 HW97k?

Don't need a tune kit, just the spring to drop right in. I recently acquired a spring compressor specifically for this project.

Reason I ask is that a while back I had bought an old 177 HW77K from a friend which shot between 9-10fpe and it was the

most accurate HW gun I have ever shot wish I never sold it and now have a 177 97K which I never shoot since I can't seem to

get the accuracy and believe it is due to being overpowered. The old 177 77K was never tuned and was ridiculously easy to

shoot it accurately twangy and buzzy and all compared to the out of box 177 97K I have now and I would prefer less than 12fpe

and believe it would be very easy to cock and shoot all day long with the sub sub 12fpe spring.

TIA

Walt
 
I had the same question regarding my new Diana 52, which was very difficult to cock. After investigating this I ended up with a mainspring from ARH, which dropped right in. The cocking effort was reduced enough to make the rifle enjoyable, and the velocity of 177 8.64gr pellets dropped from 915 fps to 812 fps, which is about 12.6 ft lb muzzle energy. 

While the emails were somewhat vague I have no complaints with the spring from ARH, and they did ship very quickly.