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  1. ElementalBreakdown

    Best price Hw90?

    I was told by employees at a few big retailers that the best price on guns was 4th of July. Right now the Hw90 can be purchased for $652 all in. I know this is the gun I want, but would like to be sure that I am getting the best deal. Also, not completely opposed to buying off the forums used...
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    No obvious choice under $8,000

    Thanks, it's always the case when I get into something new I gravitate towards the thing that will cover the widest range of circumstances, but it makes sense of course that a rifle is going to excel in 1-2 areas. To be clear, I don't have an $8k budget, I was just saying that I don't mind...
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    No obvious choice under $8,000

    Thanks for putting. 20 on the table. Some bizarre recess of my brain is thinking about how to cast my own pellets so I never have to worry about ammo. Off topic does anyone around here cast their own? 
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    No obvious choice under $8,000

    No mistake, just saw a great rifle that was a classic by some famous airgunner and only a couple hundred were made... I wouldn't spend that, but just saying I would not flinch for a couple hundred extra bucks to only buy this once. I am pretty sure that the HW77K is what I am after, and...
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    No obvious choice under $8,000

    TX-200 does not look like it has iron sites. I refuse to buy guns that are scope only. That Weirauch HW77 is REALLY looking good, I am reading that it's known for its trigger which is something I really appreciate.
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    No obvious choice under $8,000

    Weihrauch, tx-200,& the Beeman seem to be what I see mentioned most. As far as "what kind of competition" I just want to have something that is capable of shooting better than I am capable of. Hunting with a .22 I wouldn't shoot anything bigger than something rabbit size. I don't expect to be...
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    No obvious choice under $8,000

    Hi all, I am looking for a Springer with what seems like modest requirements and can't find an obvious choice. Price isn't an issue. I want to be able to hunt, but also compete or at least have a tool capable of competition. I understand that most competition is with. .177, but I am not...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    Again, slightly apologetic for this sidetrack, but it's an interesting discussion. For the last 20 years I have used sabot slugs and have never considered going back to buckshot. The rifled shotgun barrel with a sabot is accurate to absurd distances. The relevancy here though is thatI had not...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    I assume you weren't talking to me because I don't think I mentioned an ambi stock or .25 All I know is from other shooting sports and setups and I use them on my FAL and other rifles. The only long arm I have glass only on is my Remington 870 and in the past it has been a headache. I...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    Hey, no stubbornness here! I'm just going by what I have had on rifled shotguns and rifles in the .30 cal family, higher scope mounts never caused an issue. My FAL has an Acog mounted about 1/4" high so I can use the iron sights and at 100 yards which is the furthest I can see I can shoot...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    Definitely want a. 22. Just need to figure out how to put a scope on to use both. Very interested in your suggestion Scope suggestions for this setup? Probably something with versatile/wide range of eye relief. 
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    Fischer, I think we are on the same page- just a bit confused on which rifle you would buy if only one- I am set on figuring out the shoot through iron sights. "The one shot rifle can be the HW98 or HW50 or HW35E or HW80 or anything." Obviously I am 100% set of a springer, but if the gas...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    Thanks for all the input, an old timer pointed out a raised mount and it's exactly like a few of my rifled barrel shotgun setups, no reason why I shouldn't be able to get used to an inch higher cheek weld when I want to use the sscope which I am guessing won't be often under 50 yards. I was...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    I am going to do more research. I refuse to own a rifle without iron sights. There were only a few suggestions as far as what rifle is most accurate in .22. Speed not a huge thing, I imagine 50 yards would be the far edge of the range I'd hunt at. Right now it only looks like detachable or...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    Forgive me if I double posted, seems like my reply didn't get recorded. I am was referring to shoot through rings or mounts for dangerous game on other hunting expeditions. I presume you were trying to be funny about someone hitting you? 99% sure that was just an attempt at humor, but if not...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    Tht HW 95 looks great in Walnut- looks like it is Weirauch or Crossman, can't figure out which (unless both make it). To answer the question about shoot through sites, because IME sights a that get banged up or removed DON'T immediately zero, and its just a habit that's carried over from...
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    Searched here/no luck- most accurate springer w/ useable iron sights under scope

    Been looking for a "one and done" air rifle for 2 years. ONLY considering springers. I searched the forums but can't find anything- The diana 34 and 350 and most of the Diana's have been on backorder for months/years.. I don't know much about gas springers but not stubborn. I have been shooting...