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I think that I have r ead many times that the fixed 10x20 are less clear or difficult to use. Have you looked through the swfa 12x42 or 16x42? These might be just the right compromise for you (yes I know you want 20x minimum) Personally, if i was in the us, I would get a 2ndhand 10x42 HD, and...

whats next? Spend mony on the list above AND start saving up for the next perfect gun…

Edgun vs FX, is that really a question? both may be good, but very different philosophies behind what the product is

I have had the r3 .22 std, r3m long .25 and r5 std .30 The leyla is a similar platform to my r5 but much shorter. The r3 are really lightweight and easy to grip and carry. Trigger is ok, singleshots are best. R3m may need to be worked over to be decent. My R5 trigger cannot be set as light...

Answering to the OP, after browsing through some of replies and pages. The very short answer: a secondhand Evol The long answer: everybody is different, is differently build, has different needs and different uses. Some of my experiences: Edgun r3 and r3m very simple, very light, single shots...

Rip off is rip off, regardless of patent. Imitation may be flattering, but if you have put your blood sweat and lifesaving into it, I am sure it feels more like a rip off than flattery. But if you want to give your money to these people, its yours to give. But dont complain about bad behaviour...

I will play: 2x Edgun R3 (R3 .22 std and R3M .25 long). The 22 was perfect, the .25 too long, to heavy and too loud. Both sold. 3x Theoben and 1x Raw: built like a tank, heavy as a tank. All sold 3x ShinSung Career (.22 and .25, carbine and rifles): great too look at, requires time and attention...

I like light weight and repeatability: Sightron S3 10x42 Weaver 4x38; 6x38 and 4.75x All used 50y and less on my Edguns and AAAs

The youth rifle designed by Weihrauch, the HW25, has a very bad trigger. It is very safe and it makes all other triggers seem wonderful in comparison. My 13 year old can shoot it like nobody else, mostly because the rest of us is spoiled with good triggers. Good learning gun.

I had another consideration in choosing scope… I usually shoot off hand, and there is usually not a lot of time to set up: otherwise I would take the time to get comforatble and use sticks. So when time is short, I want to focus on aiming and shooting, not on setting the scope parallax...

First pcp was an edgun veles (2nd hand) and second pcp was an Edgun matador (also 2nd hand). My philosophy is if you buy quality, you have less likely to be unhappy with the gear, and once you sell (which I always do since I am not a collector), you always get your money back. yes, you may need...

At the original poster: Budget, purpose and your personal preference or fit ar key I think. You mention RAW. Had one, sold it, did not fit my purpose. I suggest you take a look at the AAA Evol in .22. For a couple of reasons 1. Its great stuff 2. its short 3. you can easily get std ar15 carbine...

If you are after a goldilocks gun, then get what you really want, and dont consider price. You will just buy more guns until you get to the one you wanted in the first place. All suggested guns will do, but for me there is only one that ticks all boxes: evol std .22. Short, light, accurate, easy...

I just saw this… https://www.steyr-sport.com/en/contact/map-view this is the link to use… I have found calling the best pursuit, then following up with mail if needed. 

I like sporters, I have the H5 Semi and the Kalibrgun Carbine .22. Both of equal weight, similar barrel length, although OAL of H5 is bit shorter. I find the H5 shoulders and points the best, it has good trigger. It just feels right. Biggest downside is the 5shot mag. Only sporter that I think...

It is rare, but I have seen foster fittings not click into place 100% securely, and do the wild snake thing once pressurised. Not pretty, very dangerous. Happens mostly to the inexperienced. Probes are safer that way. having said that, I do prefer foster…

Closest thing to what you describe is the Kalibrgun Carbine .22 Sturdy, rifle format, good quality, but may not enough classic style for you. avoid the .25, its too long and barrel droops. Gun is hard to come buy, but still vaialble new. Newer are bettr in my experience (safety fixed and good...

Wrt gta vs agn: i dont care, as they say “ it takes all kinds” wrt the original question, for a new to pcp guy, I suggest going second hand. Thry something with a regulator at least, and as high quality as possible. I love the old edguns and kalibrguns, and the fx royale. Since they are not the...

So that Evol Classic Thumbhole looks good, BUT what does all that lumber WEIGH ??? AND what is the LOP?

Suggest to contact Steyr directly. They speak English, and have been proven helpful to their customers.