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Ended up getting this: Monstrum Dovetail (11 mm / 3/8 inch) Scope Rings | 1 inch Diameter High profile - can see thru to iron(?) sights easily. I was trying to mount a laser scope with a picatinny interface, but this works great.

Yes, saw them, thanks; and they will work I think, now looking for see thru or high profile dovetail to picatinny adapter. Seems everything is for the picatinny mount. Guessing mfgr use dovetail, cause it must be a whole lot cheaper to include.

Have a Stoeger s4000-e, no scope (don't want), dovetail of course. Been looking for a green dot laser/optic sight that would be offset (~45 degrees) so that I can continue to also use the open fiber optic sights. Can't find anywhere. Also acceptable would be a picatinny adapter offset that...