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“AirgunBill”Zebra thanks for your detailed thoughts. I am getting back into air rifles after a 15 year absence. I have spent that period of time shooting groundhogs mainly with centerfire rifles and sometimes rimfires  as the conditions dictate. That is partly why I am getting back into air rifles as I feel it isn’t safe with centerfires and even rimfires around barns and outbuilding with people around going after groundhogs. Years ago where I used to work we had a groundhog problem and between my Talon SS 22 w/ 25 fpe and Career 710 Tanker 22 w/34 fpe I took out well over 200 groundhog in two years out to about 35 yards. With groundhog populations declining mainly because of me I was looking for more shooting opportunities. A lot of the farms I shoot have pigeons and now I found some with rat problems too. This fall is the first time I have shot rats at night with my Hatsan AT 44 10 with my ATN X-Sight and what a blast. So I decided to order an FX Verminator in .22 cal. which will easily get over 100 shots per fill and I won’t have to be filling it in the pitch dark. It is compact and light and has many other great features too. It will also make a great small game rifle for squirrels and rabbits too. Now I still would like a higher power air rifle for shooting groundhogs out to say 50 yards or so that is why I am looking at the FX Wildcat. The characteristics of the Wildcat including quietness should make it well suited to shooting around barns and outbuilding with the proper backstop. As far as the Ataman rifle and its suitability all boils down to your needs and uses. Now I am mainly talking about the .22 and .25 calibers which have wider use rate. The 9mm is pretty specifically larger game. Like many people I have to travel pretty far to get my tanks filled. My whole point with the Ataman rifles it seemed with such a high fill pressure that is 4350 psi and only getting only 35 shots in .25 caliber you won’t be shooting much before your main fill tank runs out of air. My 97 cu ft Great White is one of the largest tanks out there and you will probably be lucky to get a few fills off it. Now if all you are going to do  with the Ataman is just hunt and take a few shots a day you will be fine. However if I spent all that money on a air rifle I would like to do some shooting. In that case be prepared to be making air runs. Bill


I promise you will get a lot of fills from your great white, even with the Ataman. You won’t be filling it to 300 bar, that is the max it is rated for. The Cricket is rated for 300 bar but people have reported the valve getting jammed at that pressure. I think you’ll get over 30 fills  at greater than 3000 psi easy.

If you live in a remote place, you could always rent one of those 6ft tanks for your garage. If getting air is an issue, it will be the same with any gun. I didn’t check how big the Ataman cylinder is. If it’s smaller than the Cricket and Wildcat that would also contribute to a lower shot count. Either way, if there is a need for greater air efficiency, maybe Ataman is not the way to go but we’ll see when they arrive. PA specs have been known to be wrong on occasion.

I have never hunted groundhog so I don’t know how much energy is needed to turn out their lights but a member on another forum regularly takes medium sized pigs with his 22 cal pcp rifle so you can get away with using less energy (if you’re a good shot). 22 calls seem to use way less air than 25 cal. 

It it sounds like you already have a respectable collection of pcp rifles. As you’re still looking, is it fair to say that you haven’t found one that satisfies yet? I lost interest in searching the clasiffieds for pcp rifles for 3-4 months after getting my Cricket. I was just happy to shoot it. Then it developed an indexing issue that I have yet to solve so I started looking again. It only takes one small but annoying issue to change how I feel about a gun. I loved the Cricket but now it just makes me angry that a $1500 purchase has a problem after only a few months. Now I’m worried what it will be like after a year. 

Part of your self talk pre-purchase is that you always sell it if you need the money and they hold their value quite well so you don’t want to worry about it being worthless after a short period…

I just spent a month making a carbon fiber stock for it or I might have switched it out already. It is still great to shoot though. It’s accurate, quiet (ish), powerful, flat trajectory, efficient and it’s balanced just right. I hate being conflicted. Why couldn’t Kalibrgun have just used a little high carbon steel for their indexing pin…. Also, is it just me or does it seem like there is a letter missing from their name?…