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I use bullpups for that. I’d most likely miss a bird at 15 yards with a pistol and no scope. Maybe I could do it with practice but I don’t like to hunt without a scope. 

I usually find that it’s the sound of me opening the window that spooks them.  If they are still there after that, I can get one of the bullpups on target very quickly. The Mutant Shorty doesn’t really extend beyond the grip any more than a pistol anyway. 

I’m sure somebody will come up with carbine grips with a shoulder stock attached if they become popular which I’m sure they will given how few credible competitors they have in the price range.