N/A Which guns to replace?

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Normkel

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I, recreationally, shoot some 50 and 100-yard paper, but only to test groups and adjust scope, with the highest percentage at metallic silhouettes from 40 to 160 meters. We are challenged by wind, sometimes from 3 or 4 directions on the range.

I have (5) .22 PCPs, shooting pellets: two FX Streamlines with added plenums; one DRS Synthetic Classic 600 mm; one Air Arms S510Extra; one Umarex Gauntlet (for kicks). All but the DRS have Hawek AirMax 4-12X AMX. The DRS has Hawke WASF 6-24X, but is only used at 12 power as are the other scopes. The 12X provides sufficient elevation gradients for the trajectory from 40 to 160 meters.

I have all guns shooting at the same velocity, except for the Gauntlet, so that I can use the same scope increments for each distance. I'm old, and changing too many things becomes overwhelming over a day of shooting.

Which gun(s) should I sell to replace with what other gun(s) to offer better results?

Replacement at a similar cost/value is a factor, although not absolute.
 
Normkel said:
I, recreationally, shoot some 50 and 100-yard paper, but only to test groups and adjust scope, with the highest percentage at metallic silhouettes from 40 to 160 meters. We are challenged by wind, sometimes from 3 or 4 directions on the range.

I have (5) .22 PCPs, shooting pellets: two FX Streamlines with added plenums; one DRS Synthetic Classic 600 mm; one Air Arms S510Extra; one Umarex Gauntlet (for kicks). All but the DRS have Hawek AirMax 4-12X AMX. The DRS has Hawke WASF 6-24X, but is only used at 12 power as are the other scopes. The 12X provides sufficient elevation gradients for the trajectory from 40 to 160 meters.

I have all guns shooting at the same velocity, except for the Gauntlet, so that I can use the same scope increments for each distance. I'm old, and changing too many things becomes overwhelming over a day of shooting.

Which gun(s) should I sell to replace with what other gun(s) to offer better results?

Replacement at a similar cost/value is a factor, although not absolute.
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Get rid of 1 streamline and the Gauntlet, get a vulcan 3 .22 or .25
 
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Gerry52 said:
If you can find an FX Royale 400 (.22) or 500 (.25) I believe you'd love em. Hard to come across these days, Streamlines too. Like you, my scopes stay on 12x except for my latest acquisition which was set up for scope dialing by former owner. I'd sell the Gauntlet & S510 (maybe).
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The Gauntlet was a deal I couldn't pass up ($100), and just for kicks, so I am not invested in it. It also has CO2 bottles, which I plan to play. It's also something to gift to a friend who wants to start PCP.

The S510 is likely to be the one to go as I always reach last for it. IDK why but it doesn't appeal. I added a proper cocking toggle, helped to design better magazines and keep planning to replace that ridiculous filling adapter.

I haven't seen a Royale, but there have been so many positive recommendations that I plan to grab one if available. I like the pair of Streamlines so much that

I'm not interested in .25. I shoot 500-1,000 pellets per week, and Canadian pricing and availability made me dump the one .25 I have had.

The 12x comment made me laugh as IDK why I don't buy fixed 12x. :LOL:
 
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The S510 is likely to be the one to go as I always reach last for it. IDK why but it doesn't appeal. I added a proper cocking toggle, helped to design better magazines and keep planning to replace that ridiculous filling adapter.

I'm not interested in .25. I shoot 500-1,000 pellets per week, and Canadian pricing and availability made me dump the one .25 I have had. If I were in USA, it would be a different thing.

I think that I considered a RAW when I was researching guns. Airgun Source has a couple of models, HM1000X, Mini Hunter and Chassis. Which would you recommend and why?
Keep the AA510 sell the rest and get a RAW .25 That should be all you need.
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JaceSpace1369 said:
Get rid of 1 streamline and the Gauntlet, get a vulcan 3 .22 or .25
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I haven't found a Canadian supplier for Vulcan. They are AGT, correct? I will keep looking.

I'm not interested in .25. I shoot 500-1,000 pellets per week, and Canadian pricing and availability made me dump the one .25 I have had. If I were in the USA, it would be a different thing.


We have had a 50% increase in airgun shooters at our club, which brought us up to three, both .177 springers. It's a problem as I see no other PCPs and have had to buy all of mine, sight unseen. One springer shooter is talking about .22 PCP because of the problems in seeing misses at long range. We shoot into a gravel slope 120 meters and further. It's tough enough to see the .22 impacts when the wind is pushing things. .177 is often impossible.
 
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Normkel said:
I haven't found a Canadian supplier for Vulcan. They are AGT, correct? I will keep looking.

I'm not interested in .25. I shoot 500-1,000 pellets per week, and Canadian pricing and availability made me dump the one .25 I have had. If I were in the USA, it would be a different thing.


We have had a 50% increase in airgun shooters at our club, which brought us up to three, both .177 springers. It's a problem as I see no other PCPs and have had to buy all of mine, sight unseen. One springer shooter is talking about .22 PCP because of the problems in seeing misses at long range. We shoot into a gravel slope 120 meters and further. It's tough enough to see the .22 impacts when the wind is pushing things. .177 is often impossible.
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Okay, I can't remember if you guys have limitations like in the UK in terms of power. But whether you do or not, the Uragan 3 or Vulcan 3 .177 are phenomenal options. I have a U2 177 600mm shooting 18gr skugs at 1000fps with the reg set around 155-160b, 15gr I believe are going 1090 or so. Out of a 530cc bottle I am getting about 4 mags (15 or 16shots mags) from 250b - 160b. Yes I can fill to 300b but it likes to shoot better in the range. I had a V3 177 500mm and white shooting 10.3gr at 900 I got about 350 shots per fill from 300b to 100b
 
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Okay, I can't remember if you guys have limitations like in the UK in terms of power. But whether you do or not, the Uragan 3 or Vulcan 3 .177 are phenomenal options. I have a U2 177 600mm shooting 18gr skugs at 1000fps with the reg set around 155-160b, 15gr I believe are going 1090 or so. Out of a 530cc bottle I am getting about 4 mags (15 or 16shots mags) from 250b - 160b. Yes I can fill to 300b but it likes to shoot better in the range. I had a V3 177 500mm and white shooting 10.3gr at 900 I got about 350 shots per fill from 300b to 100b
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Thank-you. I will have a look.

We have power limits that are similar to UK, if I remember correctly.

Under 500 fps doesn't require a firearms license in Canada. Over 500 fps requires a PAL (Possession & Acquisition License). I have a PAL, so no limit.

I shoot .22 pellets at as fast as I can obtain tight enough groups to stay on the silhouettes. CPHP 14.3 grain, I can drive at just under 1,000 fps from four of my PCPs. The Gauntlet is just a toy from a friend. It does well at about 850 fps and I haven't bothered trying to pick up velocity to see what happens.
 
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Normkel said:
Thank-you. I will have a look.

We have power limits that are similar to UK, if I remember correctly.

Under 500 fps doesn't require a firearms license in Canada. Over 500 fps requires a PAL (Possession & Acquisition License). I have a PAL, so no limit.

I shoot .22 pellets at as fast as I can obtain tight enough groups to stay on the silhouettes. CPHP 14.3 grain, I can drive at just under 1,000 fps from four of my PCPs. The Gauntlet is just a toy from a friend. It does well at about 850 fps and I haven't bothered trying to pick up velocity to see what happens.
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Then definitely check them out!
 
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