N/A Lightweight pcp for squirrel hunting

My Urban was 7.5lbs with scope with a perfect balance for offhand shooting. I would still classify the naked 6.6-6.7lbs as light weight, and anything under 6lbs as ultra light weight. In pcp land the Urban is certainly one of the lightest, but there are surely a good many lighter still. But remember many of the modern compact pcps are 8-10lbs naked with terrible balance.

Something else many people dont think about when building a pcp hunter is too light is often worse than too heavy. Some people have a tough time holding a 4-5lbs setup still while hunting offhand. But a balanced 8lbs setup can be more stable and feel lighter than a poorly balanced super light weight setup.

The Urban is not bad, just not super lightweight. The Urban has excellent balance and with that stupid pickle gone is fantastic as a Jeep gun with the bare barrel it is so compact or with the suppressor screwed on it is very quiet but no longer Jeep friendly. The M-Rod Super Light in that photo is noticeably lighter than the Urban, makes over twice the energy and is equally accurate if not more so and the Urban is accurate. I have two Urbans and they are excellent rifles save for that pickle thing.

 
The Urban is not bad, just not super lightweight. The Urban has excellent balance and with that stupid pickle gone is fantastic as a Jeep gun with the bare barrel it is so compact or with the suppressor screwed on it is very quiet but no longer Jeep friendly. The M-Rod Super Light in that photo is noticeably lighter than the Urban, makes over twice the energy and is equally accurate if not more so and the Urban is accurate. I have two Urbans and they are excellent rifles save for that pickle thing.

What picatinny adapter is that? How much did your custom M-Rod cost to build? Sounds like a sweet setup :cool:
 
How are these pinty guns? I saw some mixed reviews early about the rails being wrong, and being very loud. I guess for proper hunting its not a huge deal.
A real Airforce Condor can be had for $395 at their outlet store right now. Not much more than a Pinty, and you get a lifetime warranty from a company that will still be around in a few years 😅
 
Hi all,
What would be a good lightweight starter pcp for squirrel hunting? I don’t want to sink a ton of money right off the bat into this. I am debating the komplete and put a tube on it so I can fill it that way. High end I have looked at avenge x carbine and zelos. For me starting out that is the high end anyways. Just curious what you all would recommend? I hunt with a Mountain Cur so I put on the miles hunting which is why light is a nice touch.

Refurb Velox is about same price as Notos right now. It comes with two tanks and mags. Refurb15 15% off code still works https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/refurbished-velox/
 
Is the air force outlet store only in person or online as well?

They are mostly sold out now, they had other configurations available last week. I think they go on sale a couple times a year though. I got a 25Cal Condor for ~$500 a couple months ago. The regular Condor does not have a shroud so it will be on the loud side of pcps, although you can add a moderator if you wanted. The Condor or Talon SS has a shorter barrel and is internally moderated in the shroud/frame, they come up used often for great deals. These are not regulated but most have a stable ~20 rounds under the curve. A TalonSS in 22cal would be a sweet option too if you can find a used one for under budget, but there are lots of great pcps listed above so you have some homework to do =)
 
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What picatinny adapter is that? How much did your custom M-Rod cost to build? Sounds like a sweet setup :cool:
I have four M-Rods. Two I bought more or less and two I built entirely from parts scrounged, bought and made. That particular rifle cost a pile-O-cash and shoots like it cost a pile-O-cash! Roughly about a fancy, with extras, M4/2 = $M-Rod$ :D.

The rail atop the Gamo Urban came from that Country Store place in the UK. It along with super low rings and my 40mm objective scope barely clears the barrel. Along with a larger TP from the same place. It also has the GTA trigger which give the Urban a trigger nearly on par with the M-Rod.
 
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I have four M-Rods. Two I bought more or less and two I built entirely from parts scrounged, bought and made. That particular rifle cost a pile-O-cash and shoots like it cost a pile-O-cash!

The rail atop the Gamo Urban came from that Country Store place in the UK. It along with super low rings and my 40mm objective scope barely clears the barrel. Along with a larger TP from the same place. It also has the GTA trigger which give the Urban a trigger nearly on par with the M-Rod.
Is it this one? Is it a one piece like a BKL or is the clamp section a separate piece?

 
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How about a real backpack type gun? Reximex RP in .22. Spare cylinders are relatively cheap, spin empty one off , spin new full one on. Removable stock so you can shoot as pistol or short carbine. Have it tuned to 12 fpe and get enough shots at decent power.
I’ve had mine for a while now, I put a red dot on it and it’s less than 4lbs. Accurate out to 30 plus yards shooting mid weight 15.89 grain pellets. It’s got a lot going for it. I replaced a PP750 with this one and it’s a much better fit and finish. Here’s a link for a new one but I’m sure you can find used for a decent price also. https://www.airgundepot.com/reximex-rp-pcp-air-pistol.html
 
Is it this one? Is it a one piece like a BKL or is the clamp section a separate piece?

Yes, that is it, two pieces, fits the Urban like it was made for it, oh, wait, it was!
 
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Refurb Velox is about same price as Notos right now. It comes with two tanks and mags. Refurb15 15% off code still works https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/refurbished-velox/
I have a Velox and while it’s a heck of a lot of fun, I’m not sure I would hunt with it. It’s not accurate enough to be confident of making a killing shot and I have no desire to wound an animal that ends up running away and suffering.
 
Are there moderators that go over the barrel on the unsuppressed ones? For the Air Force condors.
You can get an adapter or Talon Air sells moderators made just for the Condor. Here is mine with the AirForce FATS adapter. DonnyFL also makes an adapter for the Condor.

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How are these pinty guns? I saw some mixed reviews early about the rails being wrong, and being very loud. I guess for proper hunting its not a huge deal.

How are these pinty guns? I saw some mixed reviews early about the rails being wrong, and being very loud. I guess for proper hunting it’s not a huge deal.
Look I have a pinky bull pup since the first week take him out. I haven’t had any problems with it. You can buy aftermarket magazines, their attention shots, and instead of nine shots you get about 37 to 45 shots with one feel it’s regulated and depending on what kind of scope you might have a little bit of issues it’s pretty quiet and a weight only 5 pounds my shoes, Crossman inexpensive pallets almost as good as JSB pallets
 
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Look I have a pinky bull pup since the first week take him out. I haven’t had any problems with it. You can buy aftermarket magazines, their attention shots, and instead of nine shots you get about 37 to 45 shots with one feel it’s regulated and depending on what kind of scope you might have a little bit of issues it’s pretty quiet and a weight only 5 pounds my shoes, Crossman inexpensive pallets almost as good as JSB pallets
Sorry I had an old guy brain fart. I read Pinty and first thing that popped into my head was the AirForce copycat pcps. I know the Bullpup models have far less issues than the rifle and AF versions.