N/A Newbie looking to buy used complete set up

For $1000 These are my recommendations.​

Zulus HD Digital Day/Night Vision Rifle Scope​

That records video as well Version ONE not V2​


$355.49 Amazon U.S.​


CS3 PCP Air Compressor, Auto-Stop,Oil-Free, Built-in Water-Oil Separator Filter, Powered by Car 12V DC or Home 110V AC w/Converter,4500Psi/30Mpa,Paintball Air Compressor Pump $370 with $40 off coupon on Amazon making it:​

$339.99 Amazon U.S.​


That brings your total to $695.48 You now have a buget for pcp rifle of $304.52

I would recommend a .25 cal
Like I mentioned, I really am green so I'm hesitant to actually recommend much. That said, my auction site (Macbid) constantly has returned or overstock compressors. They're almost always the compact shoebox size. Various "Brands" Vevor, Spiritech, ...
These are $175-$225 retail. I grabbed 3 of them. First was $40, Second $38, last I got a smaller yet for $16. All of them are flawless. I wouldn't trust on a larger tank but for the rifle, perfect. The last was only because I was looking to buy a new flex tube with filter. Got the whole unit with tube for the $16.
Idk when the OP lives but this bidding app I have is really great. For $7 you can get insurance for a no questions asked return. Can also register the mfg warranty.
Any luck here will save ya $200-$250 towards the rifle. Macbid is limited in certain areas but I'm sure others exist.
Good luck
 

For $1000 These are my recommendations.​

Zulus HD Digital Day/Night Vision Rifle Scope 5x20​

That records video as well Version ONE not V2​


$355.49 Amazon U.S.​


CS3 PCP Air Compressor, Auto-Stop,Oil-Free, Built-in Water-Oil Separator Filter, Powered by Car 12V DC or Home 110V AC w/Converter,4500Psi/30Mpa,Paintball Air Compressor Pump $379.99 with $40 off coupon on Amazon making it:​

$339.99 Amazon U.S.​


That brings your total to $695.48 You now have a buget for pcp rifle of $304.52

I would recommend a .25 cal
Hello... I hate to ping you again but I sent my last ally the compressors forgetting to add this.
I apologize as sometimes I can be long winded. Also, being new and green, I jump on any chance I can get to ask a few questions.
In this case, Day/Night scopes, especially with recording options are super super cool. I just wonder how much advantage you get versus just lighting up the target zone?
I really struggle with the price points on scopes. For my Avenger Bullpup I went with the CVLife 2-10x32 MPVO AO Rifle. It's 9" long which I wanted to trim. AO is a must. It's illuminated. Price: $100.
It came with a single piece cantilever mount which was perfect on my Avenger Bullpup 2. One thing,. It is a 1/2 MOA not the typical 1/4. Otherwise it's crisp and clean. It's held zero spot on so far, maybe 200 shots?
I just can't get a clean answer why spend big money on the scope. I know we need good or even great but the $1500 super top tier, why?
From my recent self education and research, it seems the price point of $200-$300 gets the very most bang for buck. After that, big dollar steps for very small sometimes not noticable features.
Getting the etched reticle, high quality glass, high end components, side parallax adjustment, repeatable/nice click turrets.
This didn't touch on the rings, even more puzzling than the optic itself.
Anyway, just my (probably naive) thoughts.

Thanks so much for listening I'm sure I'll get these pieces put together someday. For now, I absolutely love my setup.
 
I could not come close to justifying the cost of a night vision scope, so I just did this.
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Lights up my chicken pen area just fine, especially if the trash bandit look in my direction. Two nice bright orbs to aim between.
My overnight guns all have flashlights.
 
My overnight guns all have flashlights.
I thought about adding a red flashlight on the rifle but to get a proper angle and not be right in the open I'm set up at 40 yards. At this distance, I doubt I'd get much advantage. My case better to illuminate the entire area.
If I need quick white light I keep one plus my cams around I can quickly turn on bright lighting.
 
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Hello... I hate to ping you again but I sent my last ally the compressors forgetting to add this.
I apologize as sometimes I can be long winded. Also, being new and green, I jump on any chance I can get to ask a few questions.
In this case, Day/Night scopes, especially with recording options are super super cool. I just wonder how much advantage you get versus just lighting up the target zone?
I really struggle with the price points on scopes. For my Avenger Bullpup I went with the CVLife 2-10x32 MPVO AO Rifle. It's 9" long which I wanted to trim. AO is a must. It's illuminated. Price: $100.
It came with a single piece cantilever mount which was perfect on my Avenger Bullpup 2. One thing,. It is a 1/2 MOA not the typical 1/4. Otherwise it's crisp and clean. It's held zero spot on so far, maybe 200 shots?
I just can't get a clean answer why spend big money on the scope. I know we need good or even great but the $1500 super top tier, why?
From my recent self education and research, it seems the price point of $200-$300 gets the very most bang for buck. After that, big dollar steps for very small sometimes not noticable features.
Getting the etched reticle, high quality glass, high end components, side parallax adjustment, repeatable/nice click turrets.
This didn't touch on the rings, even more puzzling than the optic itself.
Anyway, just my (probably naive) thoughts.

Thanks so much for listening I'm sure I'll get these pieces put together someday. For now, I absolutely love my setup.

Hello... I hate to ping you again but I sent my last ally the compressors forgetting to add this.
I apologize as sometimes I can be long winded. Also, being new and green, I jump on any chance I can get to ask a few questions.
In this case, Day/Night scopes, especially with recording options are super super cool. I just wonder how much advantage you get versus just lighting up the target zone?
I really struggle with the price points on scopes. For my Avenger Bullpup I went with the CVLife 2-10x32 MPVO AO Rifle. It's 9" long which I wanted to trim. AO is a must. It's illuminated. Price: $100.
It came with a single piece cantilever mount which was perfect on my Avenger Bullpup 2. One thing,. It is a 1/2 MOA not the typical 1/4. Otherwise it's crisp and clean. It's held zero spot on so far, maybe 200 shots?
I just can't get a clean answer why spend big money on the scope. I know we need good or even great but the $1500 super top tier, why?
From my recent self education and research, it seems the price point of $200-$300 gets the very most bang for buck. After that, big dollar steps for very small sometimes not noticable features.
Getting the etched reticle, high quality glass, high end components, side parallax adjustment, repeatable/nice click turrets.
This didn't touch on the rings, even more puzzling than the optic itself.
Anyway, just my (probably naive) thoughts.

Thanks so much for listening I'm sure I'll get these pieces put together someday. For now, I absolutely love my setup.
The advantage is stealth. Depends where you live, lots of factors.

Maybe you don't live in an area where shining flash lights letting all your neighbors know what you are doing is a big deal, who knows, there are lots of advantages to night vision or companies wouldn't sell them ( same with moderators ), and for the price I recommended it has ability to record in HD. With other scopes it requires all kinds of accessories and mounting options for separate cameras later. Another rabbit hole that is eliminated. But with this it has all they need for a reasonable price, way cheaper then other night vison options and punches at least $1000 above its weight according to many reviewers with comparison footage.

Its all about being prepared for where you are now and in the future. If you just purchase what you need now you will spend more as things change in future. Everyone's situation and set up is different, I respect yours and it may work for you but that doesn't mean it is right for all others and their situations.

There is that kind of reasoning as well. Its all in the details. I am not sure you can call a $350 scope expensive, especially with night vision lol

I mean you could just go with the plastic scopes they give you with some air rifles, they are light weight, plastic and have glass or what looks like glass, they have some sorta knob on them that does something and cross hairs that you can see in the dark with a flashlight.

Everyone has their methods. I just shared my recommendations based I what OP said, hunting what looks like to be nocturnal pests and night vision. Those are things he asked about in his posts.

So I gave him options to think about. It was not a debate as to who thinks their smarter or my setup is better then yours and it just doesn't make sense to me. Rather it was a good recommendation for what the poster asked within his budget or at least I thought so. The poster didn't ask about a flashlight but I admit if you really want to get as cheap as possible you could shoot dried corn out of a DIY slingshot I guess and with a flashlight.

There are people who can not justify a millionaire riding around in a old beat up pickup truck. The OP asked for options and thoughts. I gave him my mine on options in detail within his budget based on what he asked. Just my two cents. If you want a more expensive air gun the option to by it used is there. But there are plenty of air guns that are capable for $300 and under. Do research and ask questions. The OP appears to be doing that. That's a very good start. You could be normal or you could be the guy on video who recommends to buy American while his wife pulls in the driveway behind him with a Volkswagen. Who knows! lol Not everyone is into the Blair witch project with a flashlight hunting experience. Just my sense of humor. No offenses taken and hopefully your not offended. I liked your recommendation post response by the way.
 
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The advantage is stealth. Depends where you live, lots of factors.

Maybe you don't live in an area where shining flash lights letting all your neighbors know what you are doing is a big deal, who knows, there are lots of advantages to night vision or companies wouldn't sell them ( same with moderators ), and for the price I recommended it has ability to record in HD. With other scopes it requires all kinds of accessories and mounting options for separate cameras later. Another rabbit hole that is eliminated. But with this it has all they need for a reasonable price, way cheaper then other night vison options and punches at least $1000 above its weight according to many reviewers with comparison footage.

Its all about being prepared for where you are now and in the future. If you just purchase what you need now you will spend more as things change in future. Everyone's situation and set up is different, I respect yours and it may work for you but that doesn't mean it is right for all others and their situations.

There is that kind of reasoning as well. Its all in the details. I am not sure you can call a $350 scope expensive, especially with night vision lol

I mean you could just go with the plastic scopes they give you with some air rifles, they are light weight, plastic and have glass or what looks like glass, they have some sorta knob on them that does something and cross hairs that you can see in the dark with a flashlight.

Everyone has their methods. I just shared my recommendations based I what OP said, hunting what looks like to be nocturnal pests and night vision. Those are things he asked about in his posts.

So I gave him options to think about. It was not a debate as to who thinks their smarter or my setup is better then yours and it just doesn't make sense to me. Rather it was a good recommendation for what the poster asked within his budget or at least I thought so. The poster didn't ask about a flashlight but I admit if you really want to get as cheap as possible you could shoot dried corn out of a DIY slingshot I guess and with a flashlight.

There are people who can not justify a millionaire riding around in a old beat up pickup truck. The OP asked for options and thoughts. I gave him my mine on options in detail within his budget based I what he asked. Just my two cents. If you want a more expensive air gun the option to by it used is there. But there are plenty of air guns that are capable for $300 and under. Do research and ask questions. The OP appears to be doing that. That's a very good start. You could be normal or you could be the guy on video who recommends to buy American while his wife pulls in the driveway behind him with a Volkswagen. Who knows! lol Not everyone is into the Blair witch project with a flashlight hunting experience. Just my sense of humor. No offenses taken and hopefully your not offended. I liked your recommendation post response by the way.
I Agree. In looking back my wording and direction went the best in the world. The biggest thing you mentioned is the OP looking for options not a debate. Apologies there. No, I'm not even the slightest offended but thank you.
As I mentioned I'm VERY green. I absolutely love these guns. I love learning all about the equipment and am the fun stuff that comes with it. I'm certainly not in a position to be giving advice but I do like to share my experience and thoughts.
The optics are a kinda touchy thing for me. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the price points. Like you said the plastic junk that often is included are awful on a good day. I'm just trying to find the point of bang for buck . I took a nice look at the one you mentioned and it looks great compared to some much more expensive ones.
Oh well, thanks for the feedback. I truly do appreciate it. Although I'm so new to this sport, I'm 54 so too old to get upset it worry about much. Especially those trying to help. I like to think though that I'm still plenty young enough to run and play. Only problem here is the price of the toys.
Have a great day
 
Many long-time airgun users have gone through phases of interest and acquisition over the years. Airguns I enjoyed 40 years ago when the selections were limited aren't what I prefer now in later life. These days I prefer compact (~32 inches), lightweight (~6lbs), repeating (magazine fed, manual cycling or semiauto) PCP airguns, though I still keep a nice gas-piston break barrel rifle around for old time's sake.

I've only had One Airforce airgun, a Talon SS. I think that most or all of the Airforce rifles have a similar single-shot loading process. I personally found it to be slow and inconvenient to reload due to the rather narrow access to the loading port (for my hands, I weigh 150lbs). That is the reason I sold it.

If you just plan to do some lightweight pest control you don't need a heavy (over 7lb in my book) or long rifle to do it, and don't get too caught up in chasing the guns with the highest shot power specs unless you get a good deal on a used. Even a Huben GK1 pistol with a folding butt stock and good sight can take a good shot out beyond 40 yards though you'd probably be lucky to find a good used one under $900. It's possible to refill a small HPA cylinder (<85CC or so) with a hand pump if you are physically able to and only shoot a few magazines at a time.

Break barrel pellet rifles can be decent hunters at modest ranges and are undervalued n the resale market. I had over a dozen barely used break barrel rifles 2 years ago and gave most of them away because I could not sell them, even at 25% or less than their original purchase price the year before.

So many choices if it turns out to be a hobby. If all a person wants is one or two moderately priced airguns for occasional pest control it'll be easier and less expensive for you than the kind of money some of us have spent on many dozens of airguns over the years.

Somewhat surprisingly, the laser sight in front of the scope is not visible in the scope's image.

JP

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I Agree. In looking back my wording and direction went the best in the world. The biggest thing you mentioned is the OP looking for options not a debate. Apologies there. No, I'm not even the slightest offended but thank you.
As I mentioned I'm VERY green. I absolutely love these guns. I love learning all about the equipment and am the fun stuff that comes with it. I'm certainly not in a position to be giving advice but I do like to share my experience and thoughts.
The optics are a kinda touchy thing for me. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the price points. Like you said the plastic junk that often is included are awful on a good day. I'm just trying to find the point of bang for buck . I took a nice look at the one you mentioned and it looks great compared to some much more expensive ones.
Oh well, thanks for the feedback. I truly do appreciate it. Although I'm so new to this sport, I'm 54 so too old to get upset it worry about much. Especially those trying to help. I like to think though that I'm still plenty young enough to run and play. Only problem here is the price of the toys.
Have a great day
The optic prices are insane IMO lol but good news is we live in a day and age where that is changing. Some are starting to become available as in more affordable. Your use of a flashlight is an excellent idea and will work great in most circumstances. But if its a chicken coop I am going to venture to say there is more then just a raccoon lingering around the corner and while the flashlight might work on the raccoon and the raccoon is a pest taking feed through the fence while the fox sees the light and you never see him cause your focused on the raccoon with a light. Many reasons night vision works well. Listen at your age you do have advice to give. The advice you gave was great. Its all about being humble as I have learned more from some Walmart door greeters then I learned anywhere else. People would be surprised. Learning is a life long adventure and it never ends. I'm still learning a ton. This is the biggest candy shop in the world this industry with some very large expensive candy and we are all standing in it. It will cost us eventually lol. Where there is a will there is a way. Happy hunting.
 
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I Agree. In looking back my wording and direction went the best in the world. The biggest thing you mentioned is the OP looking for options not a debate. Apologies there. No, I'm not even the slightest offended but thank you.
As I mentioned I'm VERY green. I absolutely love these guns. I love learning all about the equipment and am the fun stuff that comes with it. I'm certainly not in a position to be giving advice but I do like to share my experience and thoughts.
The optics are a kinda touchy thing for me. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the price points. Like you said the plastic junk that often is included are awful on a good day. I'm just trying to find the point of bang for buck . I took a nice look at the one you mentioned and it looks great compared to some much more expensive ones.
Oh well, thanks for the feedback. I truly do appreciate it. Although I'm so new to this sport, I'm 54 so too old to get upset it worry about much. Especially those trying to help. I like to think though that I'm still plenty young enough to run and play. Only problem here is the price of the toys.
Have a great day
Bang for your buck in optics are the CVLife BearSwift 5-25x56 and BearMight 6-24x50. FFP. Just superb glass. BearSwift is out of stock on Amazon and tariffs are killer on AliExpress and AliBaba.

Bearmight FFP ED is $249 on Amazon.

I have Discovery, Hawke and an old Leupold and to my eyes the CVLife are superior. I have 4 of the BearSwift (bought before tariffs at $108 plus shipping) and 1 BearMight.

They are pretty heavy 35oz. Lighter option is the EagleBlaze 5-25x50 with Japanese ED glass 27oz. I have one of those too.
 
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Wow, I've had a lot happen with the chickens since posting, After having no issues with 13 chickens the last 2 years in the last week we had a family of 5 raccoons, a mangy husky and a skunk... Finally catching up and I'm leaning towards a .25 cal. I appreciate all of the feedback and I understand I'll have to sort through the pros and cons of many of the models listed. I was hoping to just sift though what people are using today and not buy an irrelevant gun by mistake.

Lacking sufficient posts to enter and work within the Buy/Sell area of AGN with a post such as this is likely not going to end well :cautious:
Everyone has to start somewhere, so i thought reaching out to the masses would be the best way to start to get to know people. Did you have a better suggestion on how someone would get to know people on this forum and what people actually use here in the USA? Most of the videos I have found were people in other countries. I welcome your input
 
best .25 cal for the money is a Umarex Zelos bullpup, excellent power, accuracy and 2-18 shot magazines for a decent price, next would be a AirVenturi Avenger standard rifle, great power and accuracy for a decent price, 10 shot magazine, you can buy larger capacity magazines for it....
I own both of these guns and use them regularly.
 
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best .25 cal for the money is a Umarex Zelos bullpup, excellent power, accuracy and 2-18 shot magazines for a decent price, next would be a AirVenturi Avenger standard rifle, great power and accuracy for a decent price, 10 shot magazine, you can buy larger capacity magazines for it....
I own both of these guns and use them regularly.
I'm curious why you mention the Avenger standard rifle not the Bullpup? I'm just biased as I love Bullpup designs. Aside from the size I think the guts are all the same. The Bullpup 2 has a much better cocking handle, moved forward and lost that insanely high rail.
Just curious.... Thanks
 
I'm curious why you mention the Avenger standard rifle not the Bullpup? I'm just biased as I love Bullpup designs. Aside from the size I think the guts are all the same. The Bullpup 2 has a much better cocking handle, moved forward and lost that insanely high rail.
Just curious.... Thanks
it's because I own the standard rifle Avenger and not the Bullpup version so I can't tell you how it is, I have heard it is a good gun, I like Bullpups too, but it's not as modifiable as the standard rifle, I modified my Avenger to a Bottle gun, added a 500cc carbon fiber bottle for increased shot count, I get around 200 + shots per fill now.
 
I’m following this thread and I just have to chime in here about rifle scopes. Since the pcp craze has become so popular a lot of the parameters have changed on scopes at least for me. Coming from a lifetime of shooting pbs I have 2 scopes that retailed in the over 1000 category on my two long range rifles. And I gotta say you get what you pay for ! Will these work on my pcp guns? Not for me since I am only interested in scopes that focus at 10 yards. The Chinese scopes have stepped up in this category. Some other good things that have come out of this , as it’s easy to find ffp scopes at a decent price now..
Recently I decided to upgrade my pcp scopes a bit and after much research I found the German Precision Optics company has some great scopes. i needed a light weight scope to put on my Skout epoch compact. I settled on a GPO Centuri 4x16x44i C. At around 20 ounces it fits the bill.
Anyway it’s not a cheap scope and I understand how a budget works. I started out with 300 dollar scopes initially on my pcp guns.
 
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