Having trouble seeing the reticle

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PumaCarl said:
Astigmatism. Your scope does nothing for your astigmatism, if you have it, and the best $8000 Hensoldt isn't going to help.
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Read my reply to racer 88. Astigmatism should be corrected with your glass. Mine has been since 4th grade, I am soon 78. Do what I told racer 88. Better yet shoot a 243/6 mm bullet in a white target, place it at 500 yds and use any thing you want to view it. You will see what the glass in your eyeglasses do.
 
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JEFFPPC said:
Your confusing magnification with resolution. Ask an optometrist . I have ask three. Same answer from all.
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I have a good optometrist and Ophthalmologist. Neither have suggested I NOT wear glasses (only recently) because it will degrade my vision. And while prescription glasses bend light, it is not always magnification. So I'm not confused.

And no.... using glasses (or other optical devices) does NOT weaken your eyes... a commonly held myth.

As someone who uses optics in his profession and have been a serious amateur photographer since a kid.... There is a difference in quality glass. BIG difference.... and you definitely get what you pay for. I went top-of-the-line with my new glasses lenses.

I wear my new prescription glasses while using my rifle scopes. Works perfectly.
 
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Racer88 said:
I have a good optometrist and Ophthalmologist. Neither have suggested I NOT wear glasses (only recently) because it will degrade my vision. And while prescription glasses bend light, it is not always magnification. So I'm not confused.

And no.... using glasses (or other optical devices) does NOT weaken your eyes... a commonly held myth.

As someone who uses optics in his profession and have been a serious amateur photographer since a kid.... There is a difference in quality glass. BIG difference.... and you definitely get what you pay for. I went top-of-the-line with my new glasses lenses.

I wear my new prescription glasses while using my rifle scopes. Works perfectly.
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Do the test I propsed and tell me your results. The grade of glass unless its really terrible glass has nothing to do with it, I am chuckling because you sound like me five years ago. Don't be afraid to learn. On a 500 yard bullet hole its like moving the target back to 400 yds and with a 6mm hole that makes a huge difference.
 
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JEFFPPC said:
Do the test I propsed and tell me your results. The grade of glass unless its really terrible glass has nothing to do with it, I am chuckling because you sound like me five years ago. Don't be afraid to learn. On a 500 yard bullet hole its like moving the target back to 400 yds and with a 6mm hole that makes a huge difference.
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Sorry... your multiple posts are not clear. I've honestly lost track of your point. The only thing I've gotten from your posts is that glasses make things worse. Layers of glass degrade the image. What are you suggesting as a test? And a test for what?

I use my eyes to do very precise work every day.
 
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If the scope is FFP and the issue is with the lowest magnification it offers then it is like my Arken EPL-4 6-24. The reticle works well for targets at 24 power because it is very fine. But it becomes almost invisible at 6X. Turning on the illumination helps but not so much in bright sunlight. If this is the issue, almost any SFP scope will be a vast improvement. It is also possible for FFP to be totally visible throughout their magnification range, my PA 4-14 is, but they have to have a thicker reticle. The thick reticle blocks the 10 and even 9 ring on the 30 yard challenge target for me but I still shot a 198 with it by just centering the reticle on the target.

If you cannot see the reticle at high power, it is probably because the scope is not positioned well relative to your eye. Placement becomes very important at the scopes highest power. Setting the diopter properly for you is also important but it should not make the reticle invisible. I like to get the gun in a rest and then try moving my head around to see if the reticle moves. If it does, I adjust the diopter and try again.
 
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Just a funny story.

I have a friend who is 65 years old. This guy has some brain damage from a motorcycle accident but his eyes are pretty good.

He has a ratty old pair of $5 plastic safety glasses he'd take mountain biking when we'd go. Absolutely horrible to look through and personally I'd be worried I'd wreck into something for lack of seeing obstacles in the trail!!! So I decided I'd give him my old Oakley's which were in great shape.

So what's he do, that silly guy doesn't like wearing the Oakley's in spite of having vastly cleaner vision ?!

Kinda makes my brain short circuit thinking about it and glad I got this off my chest, lol!
 
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johnp said:
I'm having trouble seeing the reticle on my element scope I ordered the illuminated reticle because I was having trouble and I'm still having trouble. Even with or without my glasses on I still can't see it. Can anybody recommend a scope that may help. Thanks in advance
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You know that Element scopes have a life time warranty?
Perhaps you should have a talk with Element. 👍
 
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TimeRabbit said:
This instruction is for sfp scope, does the op have a sfp or ffp scope.

Make diopter adjustments at lowest magnification on sfp scope and highest magnification on ffp scope.
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Good question, he didn't state. The instructions provided are for a "ffp" and assumed he has one. A good question was also asked if he's having this issue with other scopes. Maybe he doesn't?
 
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I am an optometrist. If you have a moderate amount of hyperopia or myopia, your eyepiece can usually be adjusted to compensate. If you have a small amount of astigmatism it won't matter a whole lot but if you have more than a small amount you will do better with glasses on. Also consider you may want good vision when looking around the area...glasses on for that. Safety? Never a problem till it is.
 
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I asked which model Element scope because the "immersive" ones, 10x40 and 12x50 prism types, have extremely short eye relief, like eyelash distance, a centimeter or so; they claim 18mm but I have one and think that number is optimistic/optomestric.
It could be difficult to see the reticle with glasses on unless the glasses are pressed up against the ocular, and the eye pressed as close to the glasses as possible. I have trouble seeing all the reticle: if my eye is in the perfect spot for the center cross, I can't see the edge of the reticle if I just move my eyeball, as that is enough to move my iris outside the tiny eyebox. I have to move my eyeball AND my head a little to re-center my iris. Took a while to learn to do this, and longer to figure out why.
 
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johnp said:
I'm having trouble seeing the reticle on my element scope I ordered the illuminated reticle because I was having trouble and I'm still having trouble. Even with or without my glasses on I still can't see it. Can anybody recommend a scope that may help. Thanks in advance
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@johnp - well sir.... we've all been trying to help you but we (meaning myself) feel like we are pulling teeth to get more info out of ya?? Have you resolved the problem?
 
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JEFFPPC said:
I have had it since 4th grade......in 3 weeks I will be 78. Over the years I have learned to sort thru the BS.
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A good, no a perfect image, still has to travel through a bad eye. An astigmatism is a wart on your cornea that distorts the image before it is projected onto your retina. It has to be corrected in your eyeglasses. I don't care how old or young you are, ask an optics expert, or eye doctor, if anything I said was incorrect. Even top notch astronomical eyepieces (Tele-Vue) are equipped to receive a personally ground lens for astigmatism, so that you don't have to wear your glasses for all night viewing, and you can get closer to the eyepiece than when wearing glasses.
 
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