Choice glasses Falcon or Hawke, mount, for Air Arms Tx 200?

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Hello,

Which glasses would you choose with the TX 200 .177?

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Is the 10x zoom at a distance of 15 meters (16.40 yard) good or too big?

Is falcon as solid as the Airmax hawke designed for airguns?


The mounting of the two pieces mount or one piece mount glasses? High or medium?


Thank you a lot.
 
One piece mounts,,,I am happy with my Airmax,10x at 15yds,etc is too much,I use 7-8x at 20 yd. range and get by with 4x.

the height of mount has to do with the objective lens of scope, probably need a higher mount for 50mm than 40mm....also the way your body is,like long neck.

making it simple one pc,high mount,3x9x40 scope...a medium mount might work...first figure out what scope you want,then use the mounts that fit..
 
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I have an Airmax side focus 32x 50. I like the AMX reticle. But I wish my salesman had talked me up to the Sidewinder. I had since picked up a Sidewinder 20x 42 with the 20x 1/2 mil reticle. Much better feel to the turrets and brighter glass for only $10% more. The Airmax starts to get a little dim above 20x in comparison even though it has a larger objective lens. The one thing that is overlooked in the pricing of Hawke scopes is that they come with a nice big sidewheel, sunshade, and high quality metal lens covers. that fold all the way flat open. The $500 price range is very crowded with good scopes these days. But I wouldn't buy another Airmax when the Sidewinder is so much better. The 32x Leapers is quite a bargain at $300 but has one fatal flaw where the sidewheel focus system shifts the vertical point of impact up or down by half a mil depending on which way you turned it last.

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As to the second part of your question if I understand what you are asking: I personally don't find any amount of extreme magnification to be "too much" for any given range on still targets. I had my 50x 60 Hawke on my .177 for a trial and it is actually pretty fun punching paper at 12 yards in my attic on 40x. And ranging with the focus beyond 40 yards is pretty difficult to tell apart at less than 20x. But woods walking on moving game is tough to get your crosshairs on scampering small game targets at over 16x due to a limited field of view on higher magnification.
 
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I have an Airmax side focus 32x 50. I like the AMX reticle. But I wish my salesman had talked me up to the Sidewinder. I had since picked up a Sidewinder 20x 42 with the 20x 1/2 mil reticle. Much better feel to the turrets and brighter glass for only $10% more. The Airmax starts to get a little dim above 20x in comparison even though it has a larger objective lens. The one thing that is overlooked in the pricing of Hawke scopes is that they come with a nice big sidewheel, sunshade, and high quality metal lens covers. that fold all the way flat open. The $500 price range is very crowded with good scopes these days. But I wouldn't buy another Airmax when the Sidewinder is so much better. The 32x Leapers is quite a bargain at $300 but has one fatal flaw where the sidewheel focus system shifts the vertical point of impact up or down by half a mil depending on which way you turned it last.

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As to the second part of your question if I understand what you are asking: I personally don't find any amount of extreme magnification to be "too much" for any given range on still targets. I had my 50x 60 Hawke on my .177 for a trial and it is actually pretty fun punching paper at 12 yards in my attic on 40x. And ranging with the focus beyond 40 yards is pretty difficult to tell apart at less than 20x. But woods walking on moving game is tough to get your crosshairs on scampering small game targets at over 16x due to a limited field of view on higher magnification.
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I totally agree the Hawke Sidewinder 30 specifically the 6.5-20x42 is one of the clearest scopes i have seen. Yo!
 
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I have three TX200s all with Hawke scopes mounted directly to the receiver.
One wears an 8-32X AIRMAX
One wears a 4-16X AIRMAX
One wears a 4-16X Sidewinder

All of these scopes extend over the loading port and present no loading problems even for a soon to be 80 year old curmudgeon with a bit of arthritis!

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Frank in Fairfield said:
I have three TX200s all with Hawke scopes mounted directly to the receiver.
One wears an 8-32X AIRMAX
One wears a 4-16X AIRMAX
One wears a 4-16X Sidewinder

All of these scopes extend over the loading port and present no loading problems even for a soon to be 80 year old curmudgeon with a bit of arthritis!

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Thank you for sharing that photo. Beautiful! This shows perfectly there should be no issues. Can you please tell me what mounts you are using? What distances you shoot and if you have ever experienced barrel droop? I have an HW97 with Hawke 6-24x50 compact and topped out at 50 yards using 8gr pellets! ☹️ Also why your guns all have the cocking arms unclipped?
 
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Stormin-Normin said:
Thank you for sharing that photo. Beautiful! This shows perfectly there should be no issues. Can you please tell me what mounts you are using? What distances you shoot and if you have ever experienced barrel droop? I have an HW97 with Hawke 6-24x50 compact and topped out at 50 yards using 8gr pellets! ☹️ Also why your guns all have the cocking arms unclipped?
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Just regular (cheap) 30mm UTG dove-tail rings.
Leave the cocking arms unlatched to relieve pressure on the two breech o-rings..
My HW springers I leave the barrels unlatched for the same reason.
How can you have barrel droop on a fixed barrel air rifle?
BTW: My R1 and HW35 do not have barrel droop either.
 
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Scopes that cover the loading port on this rifle make inserting pellets into the chamber a royal PITA. A short compact scope is better. My TX has a GPO Centuri Compact 4-16. It's less than 10 inches long and weighs 20 oz. An Optisan CP or Veyron Vector would be a good alternative as well. These are available in SFP and FFP while the GPO is strictly FFP. I use UTG high mounts which work well and don't cost an arm and a leg.

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jps2486 said:
Scopes that cover the loading port on this rifle make inserting pellets into the chamber a royal PITA. A short compact scope is better. My TX has a GPO Centuri Compact 4-16. It's less than 10 inches long and weighs 20 oz. An Optisan CP or Veyron Vector would be a good alternative as well. These are available in SFP and FFP while the GPO is strictly FFP. I use UTG high mounts which work well and don't cost an arm and a leg.

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Thanks for the photo. what mount is that and is it adjustable for elevation?
 
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Frank in Fairfield said:
Just regular (cheap) 30mm UTG dove-tail rings.
Leave the cocking arms unlatched to relieve pressure on the two breech o-rings..
My HW springers I leave the barrels unlatched for the same reason.
How can you have barrel droop on a fixed barrel air rifle?
BTW: My R1 and HW35 do not have barrel droop either.
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I may be miss-labelling the condition. I shoot at 50 yards, my HW97 with Hawke airmax 6-24x50 is topped out on elevation ring using 8gr pellets. Consequently 10 gr pellets cannot even be zeroed. Mounts are Sportsmatch HTO36C high.
 
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