Me too Tim!
I would take that ‘248’ every time out and twice on Sunday at 50y, never mind seeing that accuracy at 100Y.
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N50 at 100 “In The Rings” Slug Challenge
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I would take that ‘248’ every time out and twice on Sunday at 50y, never mind seeing that accuracy at 100Y.
Don't be discouraged by anything you see on here. If you have a vision, and the ambition to see it through, i say make it happen. You never know, you may have several in your area who want to play, but you'll never find out unless you give it a go. Whether it comes together or not, have fun in the process.I'm working on holding 3-6 card local matches. 3 relays in the morning, 3 in the afternoon. I was trying for this summer but I have to wait for September to gain membership at the club with the facilities to do so.
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I'm not worried about being discouraged. I and another shooter took New England from 2 field target clubs to six and now have our own League.
I've been in contact with local AG shooters who already shoot 100yd br solo and are chomping at the bit for an organized shoot. I'm not going to try promoting it to club pb shooters as I've already seen it fail with field target. If any are interested they can approach me. Thanks for the encouragement.
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Mike.Are you using the 50 yd AG target at 100 yds? Shooting your 22 cal ? Counting the black ring as your 10 rings? Back when I put on AG Matches we had up to 8 guys shooting...I'm the only one left ! I plan on shooting there 100 yd 22 Matches with my 22 slug gun when I get it. I have never been able to get into the 22 RF game,ammo way to expensive!
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Ok Mike,
Finally got enough nerve today to shoot the FX Boss .30 at my 100Y outdoor range. The targets look like ‘Shotgun Willie’ was out with a scatter gun.
Wind was 3-7 mph; lots of tail winds and cross winds. One flag at 25Y from bench.
I started out and shot 3 rows with AEA 50.1g
FX Boss ST .30 caliber
Accu-Tac BiPod ( forgot my Leofoto TriPod)
Sightron 10x50x 60 2FP, Mildot
Rear ProtekTer bag
AEA 50.1g and 45G pellets
1675
1650
1175
AEA 45G:
1500
1525
1675
A little reflection here: The Boss really jumps quite a bit. The TriPod is much more stable, so that hurt my technique not having it today.
Wind Reading: Below average. I missed having 2nd far flag, but I’m really rusty. Plus, I suck too at 100Y wind reading. I did notice in some of the better higher scoring bulls, I had a light wind condition and could use my same hold for all 5 shots. Then, the story changed on the next adjacent bulls.
Rifle hold - I can’t determine if this rifle likes a medium to firm hold vs. light hold and letting it recoil.
It’s still fun, but the Annie .22 LRs put a smile on my face for this challenge.
Finally got enough nerve today to shoot the FX Boss .30 at my 100Y outdoor range. The targets look like ‘Shotgun Willie’ was out with a scatter gun.
Wind was 3-7 mph; lots of tail winds and cross winds. One flag at 25Y from bench.
I started out and shot 3 rows with AEA 50.1g
FX Boss ST .30 caliber
Accu-Tac BiPod ( forgot my Leofoto TriPod)
Sightron 10x50x 60 2FP, Mildot
Rear ProtekTer bag
AEA 50.1g and 45G pellets
1675
1650
1175
AEA 45G:
1500
1525
1675
A little reflection here: The Boss really jumps quite a bit. The TriPod is much more stable, so that hurt my technique not having it today.
Wind Reading: Below average. I missed having 2nd far flag, but I’m really rusty. Plus, I suck too at 100Y wind reading. I did notice in some of the better higher scoring bulls, I had a light wind condition and could use my same hold for all 5 shots. Then, the story changed on the next adjacent bulls.
Rifle hold - I can’t determine if this rifle likes a medium to firm hold vs. light hold and letting it recoil.
It’s still fun, but the Annie .22 LRs put a smile on my face for this challenge.
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Tom, maybe we can change the title to ”In The Box” challenge.? In that case, you nailed it. I”m pretty sure my Shotgun Willie targets are worse than yours.
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Hi Tom, I have a couple RAW .30’s and had a Ghost .30 and neither jumped at all. Long ago I had an Impact .30 and it jumped around considerably. Next week I will be shooting a “loaner” .30 Mora. I hope to post a short review of my experience with it.
I usually shoot free recoil off of a one piece rest and allow each gun to move as it wants to. That alone may be the difference between how my guns behave verses yours? Sometimes I use a bipod and mechanical rear rest too but even then I don’t notice much recoil or jump.
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I’m not sure how much recoil/flip you have but the fact you claim it’s substantial makes one wonder. Since it’s less than 90 fpe, it ‘shouldn’t’ recoil hardly at all. It may be that your tune is causing excessive muzzle blast. Wasted air, so to speak.
Does it seem like an air hog?
Dave
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Yes, now that you mention it, it definitely does feel like an air hog. I was filling to 250 BAR and by the time I shot 25 shots, it would fall off reg. Even with a .30, I would expect more shots than 25 from 250-150 BAR.
The velocity would drop 30 FPS at around 150 BAR and less, which is the reg set point. Huma reg, tuned by Newman Buck to shoot the 44g at 870-880 FPS. The ironic thing is my ES values are very good.
The built in moderator/ shroud is extremely loud, and it is glued on I think. Zoom in and take a look.
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If the valve is staying open until the projectile leaves, es should be reasonable. Since the valve closing doesn’t have an effect on velocity, it doesn’t have to be timed perfectly to create small es.
I am not familiar with the fx boss but one would normally back the hammer off of a conventional setup and see if/when the velocity starts dropping.
Dave
I am not familiar with the fx boss but one would normally back the hammer off of a conventional setup and see if/when the velocity starts dropping.
Dave
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Thanks guys for the input!
I’m at a pretty consistent 900-910 range with the AEA 45g. I turned up the HS a bit for the 50.1g, but I can back it down to 870 fps range and try again with my Lefoto TriPod next time.
I’m at a pretty consistent 900-910 range with the AEA 45g. I turned up the HS a bit for the 50.1g, but I can back it down to 870 fps range and try again with my Lefoto TriPod next time.
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I wasn’t suggesting to lower velocity, I’m only suggesting to back off on hammer to see if the velocity remains basically the same while reducing air use. If velocity starts to drop immediately, I’m not sure what the next step would be for the fx, as I’m not familiar with the platform.
Once you figure that part out though, other questions will arise. Hopefully someone with that particular platform will chime in. If it truly takes a long dwell (which creates more muzzle blast), there are other things to check.
As a general rule, higher reg pressure will create the same energy/velocity with a shorter dwell. This creates a higher initial pressure in the barrel but a lower muzzle pressure due to the fact the AVERAGE pressure would remain the same to develop the same energy/velocity.
An inefficient gun creates excess muzzle blast (wastes air). You can calculate efficiency by knowing how many shots, avg. energy, pressure drop in reservoir and volume of reservoir. You could then get an idea of how efficient your system is. If it is reasonable, you may not have a tuning issue and the gun may just have more ‘perceived’ noise and recoil.
Dave
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If you turn the reg up, higher pressure will use less air, but you'll have a smaller window too. Also the more pressure you put on the valve, the harder you have to hit it with the hammer. It's a balancing act.
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Good suggestions guys. Thanks!
I will ask Newman Buck ( Cape Fear Airguns ), who set this up for me a couple years ago. He used to work for FX USA. At the time, he tuned it at 870 fps, 150 BAR Huma reg setting, for the 44g. JSB. I think the combination of lowering the HS and using my very stable Lefoto TriPod will ease the jump a little. But, will ask Newman and mention your ideas too.
I may be selling the Boss this year, only because I don’t shoot it enough. It’s a dedicated BR gun for both N50 and 100Y paper targets, so not 100% sure just yet.
We’ll see.
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FWIW... a friend of mine had a 30 caliber boss and I shot it a couple times and was surprised that the entire site picture disappeared during the shot and I had to refind the target every time. The gun was fairly accurate, but that jumpy part was annoying enough that I didn't wanna shoot it very much.
Mike
Mike
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Thanks for the reaffirmation Mike. I’m not a .30 longer range BR shooter, so I’m taking this all in.
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I think its the stock design on the boss. had one way back ,was going to build a custom stock...then just sold it To many projects !
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He can fix his own problems.Stick it in a chassis and make it gain weight.. Problem solved.
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