N/A Break barrel for Survival Hunting Bugout

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Sawney Bean said:
A steroid 392 really is pretty close to ideal for that role. They're light, rugged, powerful and self-contained. It's really too bad they didn't come with dovetails and a threaded muzzle. I've been searching for the best multi-pump rifle for awhile now and so far it's the Steroid 392.
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The crosman 362 is really the best, it’s easier to pump, easier to work on, and you can mod the ever loving world out of it.

Not to mention they are cheap and super lite, I got one on order now, perfect companion to my 1322, and 1377, the use 100% all the same internals.
 
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JDR said:
Hatsan 25 pistol in 22 cal. Mine shoots accurately to take a squirrel or rabbit at 20 yards. Mine shoots 14.3-grain pellets at 550 fps. Inexpensive. Hard to cock.
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Beeman P1 can't be beat in 177, if you go pistol..30 yards and a rail fence with empty 22 brass lined up and they don't have a chance..600 fps.. if you are going rifle Diana 34 or 48..
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OldVet said:
What else can they do.?
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or did you mean a week and a freak storm?.
I'd see them dying miserable in a year as doing well, myself I used to backpack and horse pack and I am well versed in outdoorsman ship.. but stuff goes just as wrong if not worse out there.. sprained ankle, bear got your food,if you don't have what you are doing or worse, had a friend who left just a small candy in his pants pocket..he was lucky bear in one swipe took out the side of the tent, sleeping bag and his pants pocket and he was amazingly untouched, rattlers, bad water, you ever get geardia drinking from a pipe spring out of the hill? you'll wish you were in town and in the middle of a riot and got shot dead.. most people don't get it..
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beerthief said:
If your in a city , right , If you survive getting out of the city far enough ,you still most likely will not survive past a year or so . personally i do not worry about it , i will not last more than a few months without medications . other than that i have plenty of ammo to target shoot and hunt and a lake full of water and buckets to keep the toilet working hahaha . i will stay put right here ;
Stan in KY .
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I'll die the first night without my electric blanket because I don't make heat.. hypothermia.. thyroid issues and yes I sleep with it on during the summer, before we had power backup when the power went out Mom would pile the comforters so tall that I couldn't move and if shiver all night.. with the wood stove going and the house 80.. not to mention the meds..
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OldVet said:
I looked this up online , and just wanted you , and everyone to know I am taking their suggestions seriously by web searching , and reading about the rifles they suggest. Thank you I

Us older guys put our age down because we don't give a damn .lol
We grew up shooting the buck then Crossman 760 then if you had a paper route a Benjamin , and if your Dad , or Grandpa lovEd you they helped the kid get a Sheridan.
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oldvet..if I was to choose a survival rifle and I was not recoil sensitive.. Diana 48 in 22 caliber..
if I was to choose a pistol Beeman P1 in 177.. if both.. then both in 177 and JSB beast pellets..
otherwise honestly I'd grab my bag of a brick of 22 LR, strap on my Bearcat and Henry Golden boy and likely grab a few boxes of 22 short CB and a couple boxes of aguila colibri ammo in case I need quiet..
now that's only good for me for protection, and if I had a meat eater friend or meet one.. but I taught wildlife survival, so hopefully I can find and more importantly remember what I can and can't eat.
I don't remember the name but there's a movie that is true about a guy in Alaska who died way out in the woods in a bus..
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ok I'll tell you all my secret..y2k.. you remember..I lived far from here in the high Sierra mountains in California South of Yosemite.. I planted a extra large garden, we were on solar so no issues pumping water.. helped a friend over the ridge basically start his farm..he still runs it today and sells produce..
I'm vegetarian.. happened to know a cave that I'm sure the only other thing that knows about it is a bear.. stashed some very long term food in a crevice nearby..
very rugged area and water not too far away..
but then I thought about my friends.. bought a stainless steel Marlin bolt action and a half dozen magazine.. and a army ammo box full of 22 LR..
plan was I'd be fine but likely not my friends... deer all over so 22 and they would hopefully be able to make it into dinner..

fortunately y2k passed without a glitch and I had a little extra of my favorite corn on the cob..
I wasn't too worried about it but lots of my friends were.. so the rifle so they would hopefully be able to make dinner.. I'm not butchering that thing...

yes I'm days away from the cave, food, firestarter and survival stuff still there.. but I have the rifle and ammo.. hopefully if it is ever needed someone will find the cave..I told a few friends when I moved out of the state.
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I like my HW95. It's not too heavy, is very accurate and has enough power to take most small game out to 50 and under. I never put a scope on it for the purpose of keeping it light. I think it's about 7lbs. It's my first .20 cal. I like it. As for bugging out, I'll just defend where I'm at till the end. I can imagine the woods getting crowded lol and I'm a little too old to be a ridge runner.

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markhooper said:
I'll die the first night without my electric blanket because I don't make heat.. hypothermia.. thyroid issues and yes I sleep with it on during the summer, before we had power backup when the power went out Mom would pile the comforters so tall that I couldn't move and if shiver all night.. with the wood stove going and the house 80.. not to mention the meds..
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at least you have your air guns to keep you all fuzzy/ warm and happy .
 
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or did you mean a week and a freak storm?.
I'd see them dying miserable in a year as doing well, myself I used to backpack and horse pack and I am well versed in outdoorsman ship.. but stuff goes just as wrong if not worse out there.. sprained ankle, bear got your food,if you don't have what you are doing or worse, had a friend who left just a small candy in his pants pocket..he was lucky bear in one swipe took out the side of the tent, sleeping bag and his pants pocket and he was amazingly untouched, rattlers, bad water, you ever get geardia drinking from a pipe spring out of the hill? you'll wish you were in town and in the middle of a riot and got shot dead.. most people don't get it..
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It'd probably be way worse than it is now too because there would suddenly be lots of hungry and desperate people out there too and all the game would be gone in short order.
 
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markhooper said:
oldvet..if I was to choose a survival rifle and I was not recoil sensitive.. Diana 48 in 22 caliber..
if I was to choose a pistol Beeman P1 in 177.. if both.. then both in 177 and JSB beast pellets..
otherwise honestly I'd grab my bag of a brick of 22 LR, strap on my Bearcat and Henry Golden boy and likely grab a few boxes of 22 short CB and a couple boxes of aguila colibri ammo in case I need quiet..
now that's only good for me for protection, and if I had a meat eater friend or meet one.. but I taught wildlife survival, so hopefully I can find and more importantly remember what I can and can't eat.
I don't remember the name but there's a movie that is true about a guy in Alaska who died way out in the woods in a bus..
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Yes I seen that one. I don't remember the either , but remember the magic bus .
 
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beerthief said:
at least you have your air guns to keep you all fuzzy/ warm and happy .
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I don't have a single airgun id take if I was in a bug out situation..
bearcat and Wrangler and Henry Golden boy would be the ones I'd choose, but I'd better find a friendly bear to cuddle with if I'm not going to die of hypothermia the first night in the summer.. winter I'd be better off sitting by the wood stove and when the mob comes give them some guns and hopefully they have good aim so I don't suffer long.
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markhooper said:
I don't have a single airgun id take if I was in a bug out situation..
bearcat and Wrangler and Henry Golden boy would be the ones I'd choose, but I'd better find a friendly bear to cuddle with if I'm not going to die of hypothermia the first night in the summer.. winter I'd be better off sitting by the wood stove and when the mob comes give them some guns and hopefully they have good aim so I don't suffer long.
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Goose down snowmobile suit . one that fits and one xxl to go over it .
 
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beerthief said:
Goose down snowmobile suit . one that fits and one xxl to go over it .
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you don't quite understand, my body literally doesn't make heat,if it does it's very minimal.. so currently it's been 80 and absolutely my favorite weather.. I wear compression socks, wool insulation, sweat pants long sleeve flannel shirt and overalls..year around I wear insulated boots..
now come winter I put on the heavy sorrel snow shoeing boots and a artic insulated coveralls and the longer I stay out the colder I get.. 3 hours max and I'm shivering uncontrollably.. go to town, like the DR office and wear the same thing except just insulated boots.. I literally normally wear when it's in the 40's clothes that weigh 25 lbs
now when it gets hot I normally wear the wool insulation, compression socks jeans and a T-shirt and my insulated boots.. now when it hits 100+ is the only time I ditch the insulation..
I'm seriously thinking about a new set of clothes for next winter.. some battery heated inner pants to replace the insulation and sweats.. I need adjustable gear settings.. pretty much full coverage heat and hopefully a pocket with a USB plug so I can use a large battery phone type charger.. you know battery pack.. hopefully have several batteries, would be awesome to get 4 hours and then I'd make it through the day with 2 batteries..
that's my big plan and idea for next winter because I'm old and not in good health but I'm a outdoors person and like doing things but 25 pounds of clothes is a lot to carry around and tires me out..
if anyone of you have any experience or ideas I'd love your help because I have seen a few ads but I know nothing.. other than I use Milwaukee 18 volt tools and I literally got mad when I saw they only made a battery heated coat.. and I need pants a whole lot more
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markhooper said:
you don't quite understand, my body literally doesn't make heat,if it does it's very minimal.. so currently it's been 80 and absolutely my favorite weather.. I wear compression socks, wool insulation, sweat pants long sleeve flannel shirt and overalls..year around I wear insulated boots..
now come winter I put on the heavy sorrel snow shoeing boots and a artic insulated coveralls and the longer I stay out the colder I get.. 3 hours max and I'm shivering uncontrollably.. go to town, like the DR office and wear the same thing except just insulated boots.. I literally normally wear when it's in the 40's clothes that weigh 25 lbs
now when it gets hot I normally wear the wool insulation, compression socks jeans and a T-shirt and my insulated boots.. now when it hits 100+ is the only time I ditch the insulation..
I'm seriously thinking about a new set of clothes for next winter.. some battery heated inner pants to replace the insulation and sweats.. I need adjustable gear settings.. pretty much full coverage heat and hopefully a pocket with a USB plug so I can use a large battery phone type charger.. you know battery pack.. hopefully have several batteries, would be awesome to get 4 hours and then I'd make it through the day with 2 batteries..
that's my big plan and idea for next winter because I'm old and not in good health but I'm a outdoors person and like doing things but 25 pounds of clothes is a lot to carry around and tires me out..
if anyone of you have any experience or ideas I'd love your help because I have seen a few ads but I know nothing.. other than I use Milwaukee 18 volt tools and I literally got mad when I saw they only made a battery heated coat.. and I need pants a whole lot more
Mark
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WOW , sorry you felt the need to fully explain , but glad you did , thankyou possibly write to one of the company and explain your medical problem .? best i can advise .
 
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WOW , sorry you felt the need to fully explain , but glad you did , thankyou possibly write to one of the company and explain your medical problem .? best i can advise .
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sorry for the full explanation, I'm used to all the strange looks I get in town..
honestly I don't have a clue what company I'd write to.. please don't get old because the other day I was having a medical emergency, not serious enough to call 911 but very serious and I didn't know whether to go to the local urgent care or local emergency room or to the farther away emergency room that's normally staffed with more specialty doctors.. called my specialist and they said they would call back in two hours.. called primary care and they said don't matter.. urologist called back and said go to the farther away emergency room and a urologist will see you.. totally the wrong thing to do, should have went to the urgent care.. went to the emergency room and waited.. got there at 2pm.. saw another member there, small world 😊 his wife was having heart issues,he was told if you are having a full blown heart attack the wait time is 1 hour just to be seen.. that is totally unacceptable.. you'd be dead..
fortunately it wasn't that bad and I'm so grateful she is ok .
I waited for over 10 hours in horrible pain from a fully plugged catheter to be seen by just a good nurse who promptly changed it, was so backed up that my kidneys were bleeding and never saw a DR, just sent home at 3 am..
it's no wonder people die, it's surprising how we survive.
Mark
 
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markhooper said:
you don't quite understand, my body literally doesn't make heat,if it does it's very minimal.. so currently it's been 80 and absolutely my favorite weather.. I wear compression socks, wool insulation, sweat pants long sleeve flannel shirt and overalls..year around I wear insulated boots..
now come winter I put on the heavy sorrel snow shoeing boots and a artic insulated coveralls and the longer I stay out the colder I get.. 3 hours max and I'm shivering uncontrollably.. go to town, like the DR office and wear the same thing except just insulated boots.. I literally normally wear when it's in the 40's clothes that weigh 25 lbs
now when it gets hot I normally wear the wool insulation, compression socks jeans and a T-shirt and my insulated boots.. now when it hits 100+ is the only time I ditch the insulation..
I'm seriously thinking about a new set of clothes for next winter.. some battery heated inner pants to replace the insulation and sweats.. I need adjustable gear settings.. pretty much full coverage heat and hopefully a pocket with a USB plug so I can use a large battery phone type charger.. you know battery pack.. hopefully have several batteries, would be awesome to get 4 hours and then I'd make it through the day with 2 batteries..
that's my big plan and idea for next winter because I'm old and not in good health but I'm a outdoors person and like doing things but 25 pounds of clothes is a lot to carry around and tires me out..
if anyone of you have any experience or ideas I'd love your help because I have seen a few ads but I know nothing.. other than I use Milwaukee 18 volt tools and I literally got mad when I saw they only made a battery heated coat.. and I need pants a whole lot more
Mark
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I have heated pants pants that recharge on USB. a battery. I got them at either Costco or Amazon. Good luck Crow
 
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