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Huben GK1 PCP Air Pistol .25 Cal - Canada Version

Finally a GK1 produced for the Canadian market! Limited to .25 calibre @ 300 FPS *Our tests have shown avg 430-460 FPS w/25.39grain JSB King
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Your meaning that the GK1 cannot be anything else in Canada ? For instance a .177 @ < 500 FPS
I do not know Canada laws .
Maybe one needs a permit to have a more reasonable tuned GK1 ? , Do you mean (in your original post ) Canada has a law just for the GK1 and from what i read it has to be a .25 and less than 450 FPs ? A GK1 cannot be in Canada in any other configuration ?
I am think you misread that info .
 
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I’m going to refrain commenting about that guy. But I will ask a question. Does anyone ever remember a time where the leader of a western country never received a single vote from the public? Ya me neither.
 
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I guess I don't understand why you would even bother with a 25 caliber in Canada.. since they are limited to certain power requirements if think 22 caliber is better and 177 would likely be best for the power level requirements. I remember reading another thread that they put in a air restriction and or a regulator to keep it under the 500 fps..
Wes at Airgun archery fun in Canada sells the Diana bandit and the pp700 and pp750 in both 177&22 so I would think you could get those calibers for the GK1 🤔
but then again I was planning on getting a GK1 in 22 caliber this month if I can swing it with Kelly at Krazy cool airguns..
but I'm now wondering, haven't contacted Kelly yet this month but well not to be political I just don't know if all the tariffs have changed the price and or availability for the GK1.. if like one but the last price I got was $1250 and that's a huge amount..
reminds me of a few years ago I really wanted to get a attaman ap16 compact but it was more money than I had, fast forward to a bit later and pyramid air had them on clearance, maybe I was stupid but then I got worried about being able to get parts because of the war and sanctions.. and now you can't find them anywhere.. I don't know if it is true or not but someone on the forum told me that attaman went out of business? I can easily see things like this that are not necessities getting lost basically because of restrictions on buying.. I guess I just feel like supporting another country or not is not my point but just being able to buy something that you want, might not be available anywhere else.. especially like the attaman ap16 compact or the Huben GK1.. not to mention that Kelly has extra special ones.. shorty and super shorty..
I guess I really need to contact Kelly and see what he says and thinks..
I definitely don't want to buy a Huben GK1 at the $1250 and then it breaks and needs parts in a year and becomes a paper weight that's way too much money.
also yet maybe I should have gotten the attaman and spare parts?
maybe I should get the GK1 and maybe spare parts but what exactly will fail? I assume it varies gun to gun and for different users..
I guess another big issue is that if I am not comfortable, can't decide and feel confident I just don't do anything,I tend to put it off and see if I can make a good discission later.
yes I still kind of regret not getting the attaman but it's not a option now..
I don't want to get in trouble with moderator, and so I'm not wanting this to be political but I'd like to know how it's all going to turn out for the GK1 and availability here..
I'd really like others opinions or knowledge about this.
I did talk to Kelly last month and he said best to buy it in April because of the tariffs so I won't be paying more yet.. but a lot has changed over the last few weeks..
again I don't want and can't afford a $1250 paper weight..
if anyone has thoughts on this I'd appreciate a PM..
also my friend Felix has a GK1 in 22 and another one in 177 caliber.. the 177 seems like a new model 🤔 the 22 and 25 caliber are most common..🤔 now just thinking about it I wonder if Huben K1 is now available in 177? not that I want a 177 of anything as I pretty much stay with 22 caliber.
Mark
 
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I guess I don't understand why you would even bother with a 25 caliber in Canada.. since they are limited to certain power requirements if think 22 caliber is better and 177 would likely be best for the power level requirements. I remember reading another thread that they put in a air restriction and or a regulator to keep it under the 500 fps..
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It's more than that. To purchase most airguns in Canada you need a firearms license. So after a lot of time, money and agreeing to continuous background checks by our security apparatus. . . why get an airgun at all? That's why they're not very popular in Canada. Most people get get a 22LR and are done with it.
 
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I guess I don't understand why you would even bother with a 25 caliber in Canada.. since they are limited to certain power requirements if think 22 caliber is better and 177 would likely be best for the power level requirements. I remember reading another thread that they put in a air restriction and or a regulator to keep it under the 500 fps..
Wes at Airgun archery fun in Canada sells the Diana bandit and the pp700 and pp750 in both 177&22 so I would think you could get those calibers for the GK1 🤔
but then again I was planning on getting a GK1 in 22 caliber this month if I can swing it with Kelly at Krazy cool airguns..
but I'm now wondering, haven't contacted Kelly yet this month but well not to be political I just don't know if all the tariffs have changed the price and or availability for the GK1.. if like one but the last price I got was $1250 and that's a huge amount..
reminds me of a few years ago I really wanted to get a attaman ap16 compact but it was more money than I had, fast forward to a bit later and pyramid air had them on clearance, maybe I was stupid but then I got worried about being able to get parts because of the war and sanctions.. and now you can't find them anywhere.. I don't know if it is true or not but someone on the forum told me that attaman went out of business? I can easily see things like this that are not necessities getting lost basically because of restrictions on buying.. I guess I just feel like supporting another country or not is not my point but just being able to buy something that you want, might not be available anywhere else.. especially like the attaman ap16 compact or the Huben GK1.. not to mention that Kelly has extra special ones.. shorty and super shorty..
I guess I really need to contact Kelly and see what he says and thinks..
I definitely don't want to buy a Huben GK1 at the $1250 and then it breaks and needs parts in a year and becomes a paper weight that's way too much money.
also yet maybe I should have gotten the attaman and spare parts?
maybe I should get the GK1 and maybe spare parts but what exactly will fail? I assume it varies gun to gun and for different users..
I guess another big issue is that if I am not comfortable, can't decide and feel confident I just don't do anything,I tend to put it off and see if I can make a good discission later.
yes I still kind of regret not getting the attaman but it's not a option now..
I don't want to get in trouble with moderator, and so I'm not wanting this to be political but I'd like to know how it's all going to turn out for the GK1 and availability here..
I'd really like others opinions or knowledge about this.
I did talk to Kelly last month and he said best to buy it in April because of the tariffs so I won't be paying more yet.. but a lot has changed over the last few weeks..
again I don't want and can't afford a $1250 paper weight..
if anyone has thoughts on this I'd appreciate a PM..
also my friend Felix has a GK1 in 22 and another one in 177 caliber.. the 177 seems like a new model 🤔 the 22 and 25 caliber are most common..🤔 now just thinking about it I wonder if Huben K1 is now available in 177? not that I want a 177 of anything as I pretty much stay with 22 caliber.
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Pistols ( some rifles) and hunting /sporting rifles are different in the eyes of the law. Pistols shooting over 500 fps , you need a restricted fire arms license. Non restricted licensing is different. Our leaders are making it increasingly harder to be a firearm owner in this country.

I’m going to refrain from any further discussion of canukistans firearms laws. Way too close to political talk.
 
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ok I understand what you are saying, just wondering though if you can get a sub 500 fps GK1 in 22 or 177 so it's not necessary to get the firearm license..
at least that was my understanding because Wes has some listed as needing a license and others are exempt..
as I remember sub 500 fps in 177 was just a airgun, honestly don't remember what it was in 22.. yes I know below 500 fps..
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ok I understand what you are saying, just wondering though if you can get a sub 500 fps GK1 in 22 or 177 so it's not necessary to get the firearm license..
at least that was my understanding because Wes has some listed as needing a license and others are exempt..
as I remember sub 500 fps in 177 was just a airgun, honestly don't remember what it was in 22.. yes I know below 500 fps..
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just saying that I thought Wes had two categories of airguns.. with and without a license.. depending on power level.. and I guess I'd hope you could get a GK1 if you wanted to that would comply with the rules and not need license.
Mark
 
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It's more than that. To purchase most airguns in Canada you need a firearms license. So after a lot of time, money and agreeing to continuous background checks by our security apparatus. . . why get an airgun at all? That's why they're not very popular in Canada. Most people get get a 22LR and are done with it.
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If the fps is under 500 then no license is needed. Anything over 500fps requires a PAL, Possesion and Aquisitiion License.
The cost for a PAL (Possession and Acquisition License) in Canada, which allows individuals to possess and acquire rifles and shotguns, is approximately $225. This includes the course cost of $190 and a textbook for $35. Additionally, a Restricted PAL (for handguns) costs around $160.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • PAL (Non-Restricted): $225 (includes $190 course + $35 textbook)

  • PAL-R (Restricted): $160 (includes $125 course + $35 textbook)

  • PAL & PAL-R together: $350 (includes $190 (PAL) + $125 (PAL-R) + $35 textbook)

  • RCMP Fees: There are also fees paid to the RCMP for the actual license application. These fees are currently $69.20 for a PAL (non-restricted) and $92.27 for a RPAL (restricted) as of March 31, 2025.
The RCMP application includes a background check which is needed for lots of jobs as well, like working with children or individuals at risk. The same requirements need to be met for buying a 22LR or any other firearm that has a muzzle velocity of 500fps or more so, no, people are not buying 22LRs because getting an airgun is too hard. They are buying them because they are generally cheaper and easier to find.
 
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If the fps is under 500 then no license is needed. Anything over 500fps requires a PAL, Possesion and Aquisitiion License.
The cost for a PAL (Possession and Acquisition License) in Canada, which allows individuals to possess and acquire rifles and shotguns, is approximately $225. This includes the course cost of $190 and a textbook for $35. Additionally, a Restricted PAL (for handguns) costs around $160.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • PAL (Non-Restricted): $225 (includes $190 course + $35 textbook)

  • PAL-R (Restricted): $160 (includes $125 course + $35 textbook)

  • PAL & PAL-R together: $350 (includes $190 (PAL) + $125 (PAL-R) + $35 textbook)

  • RCMP Fees: There are also fees paid to the RCMP for the actual license application. These fees are currently $69.20 for a PAL (non-restricted) and $92.27 for a RPAL (restricted) as of March 31, 2025.
The RCMP application includes a background check which is needed for lots of jobs as well, like working with children or individuals at risk. The same requirements need to be met for buying a 22LR or any other firearm that has a muzzle velocity of 500fps or more so, no, people are not buying 22LRs because getting an airgun is too hard. They are buying them because they are generally cheaper and easier to find.
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great explanation..
so is there any caliber limit, or are you just sub 500 fps to be airgun?
like I totally don't understand why you would even bother with a 300 fps 25 caliber.. but I was just assuming that it was also a ft lbs energy limit too, otherwise why didn't they just go sub 500 fps with the 25 caliber?
either way $2000 is a obscene amount of money for a air gun especially if you can buy and use a 22 LR .. like I really prefer air guns for the quiet but at the same time I bought a Ruger Wrangler that I absolutely love shooting.. and I pretty much shoot only 22 LR CB shorts to keep the sound a comfortable level.. around 750 fps
again I don't live in Canada but I was trying to understand what you have to live with.. thank you for the very good explanation
Mark
 
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great explanation..
so is there any caliber limit, or are you just sub 500 fps to be airgun?
like I totally don't understand why you would even bother with a 300 fps 25 caliber.. but I was just assuming that it was also a ft lbs energy limit too, otherwise why didn't they just go sub 500 fps with the 25 caliber?
either way $2000 is a obscene amount of money for a air gun especially if you can buy and use a 22 LR .. like I really prefer air guns for the quiet but at the same time I bought a Ruger Wrangler that I absolutely love shooting.. and I pretty much shoot only 22 LR CB shorts to keep the sound a comfortable level.. around 750 fps
again I don't live in Canada but I was trying to understand what you have to live with.. thank you for the very good explanation
Mark
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I don't think there is a caliber limit, just under 500 fps to be license free.
I bought a .25 cal AirArms when I ran a dog boarding kennel to control the gophers and grackles. The 22lr sound would freak out the dogs while the .25 airgun wouldn't faze them a bit. Also most of my neighbours are 1/2 mile away and while a stray .22lr could pose a risk, I don't think a .25 airgun would at 800 fps. Also I can turn down the air rifle for up close work. Not so much with the .22
 
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No caliber limits. Here’s a few examples.
-50 cal pistol or rifle shooting at 499 , legal , no license required
-50 cal pistol shooting over 500 FPS restricted license
-50 cal rifle shooting over 500 FPS , non restricted license

When you see stuff for sale from let’s say Wes, destined for Canada means it’s shooting under the 500fps mark. More time than not it actually closer to 400. That’s because of the law stating it has to shoot both, over the speed and over the FPE .
 
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No caliber limits. Here’s a few examples.
-50 cal pistol or rifle shooting at 499 , legal , no license required
-50 cal pistol shooting over 500 FPS restricted license
-50 cal rifle shooting over 500 FPS , non restricted license

When you see stuff for sale from let’s say Wes, destined for Canada means it’s shooting under the 500fps mark. More time than not it actually closer to 400. That’s because of the law stating it has to shoot both, over the speed and over the FPE .
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A lot of them will be listed at 495 fps.
I've always wondered just how accurate that is.
When people list the chronograph results there is quite often more than a 5fps variance in a string of shots.
 
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DoggBoy said:
A lot of them will be listed at 495 fps.
I've always wondered just how accurate that is.
When people list the chronograph results there is quite often more than a 5fps variance in a string of shots.
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Advertised vs reality are two completely different things. When manufacturers detune they usually use the lightest readily available ammunition in that caliber. Like a 4 grain pellet in .177 for example.

As far as accuracy goes, Olympic shooters in the air rifle and pistol class shoot fairly close to the same velocities. I would say they more than likely aren’t using the same twist rates in their barrels though. I can’t be certain as I’ve never looked into it.
 
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I guess I don't understand why you would even bother with a 25 caliber in Canada.. since they are limited to certain power requirements if think 22 caliber is better and 177 would likely be best for the power level requirements. I remember reading another thread that they put in a air restriction and or a regulator to keep it under the 500 fps..
Wes at Airgun archery fun in Canada sells the Diana bandit and the pp700 and pp750 in both 177&22 so I would think you could get those calibers for the GK1 🤔
but then again I was planning on getting a GK1 in 22 caliber this month if I can swing it with Kelly at Krazy cool airguns..
but I'm now wondering, haven't contacted Kelly yet this month but well not to be political I just don't know if all the tariffs have changed the price and or availability for the GK1.. if like one but the last price I got was $1250 and that's a huge amount..
reminds me of a few years ago I really wanted to get a attaman ap16 compact but it was more money than I had, fast forward to a bit later and pyramid air had them on clearance, maybe I was stupid but then I got worried about being able to get parts because of the war and sanctions.. and now you can't find them anywhere.. I don't know if it is true or not but someone on the forum told me that attaman went out of business? I can easily see things like this that are not necessities getting lost basically because of restrictions on buying.. I guess I just feel like supporting another country or not is not my point but just being able to buy something that you want, might not be available anywhere else.. especially like the attaman ap16 compact or the Huben GK1.. not to mention that Kelly has extra special ones.. shorty and super shorty..
I guess I really need to contact Kelly and see what he says and thinks..
I definitely don't want to buy a Huben GK1 at the $1250 and then it breaks and needs parts in a year and becomes a paper weight that's way too much money.
also yet maybe I should have gotten the attaman and spare parts?
maybe I should get the GK1 and maybe spare parts but what exactly will fail? I assume it varies gun to gun and for different users..
I guess another big issue is that if I am not comfortable, can't decide and feel confident I just don't do anything,I tend to put it off and see if I can make a good discission later.
yes I still kind of regret not getting the attaman but it's not a option now..
I don't want to get in trouble with moderator, and so I'm not wanting this to be political but I'd like to know how it's all going to turn out for the GK1 and availability here..
I'd really like others opinions or knowledge about this.
I did talk to Kelly last month and he said best to buy it in April because of the tariffs so I won't be paying more yet.. but a lot has changed over the last few weeks..
again I don't want and can't afford a $1250 paper weight..
if anyone has thoughts on this I'd appreciate a PM..
also my friend Felix has a GK1 in 22 and another one in 177 caliber.. the 177 seems like a new model 🤔 the 22 and 25 caliber are most common..🤔 now just thinking about it I wonder if Huben K1 is now available in 177? not that I want a 177 of anything as I pretty much stay with 22 caliber.
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Baker Air Guns was at the Indiana show and had a GK1 with a mod on it for $1199 .00 . i held it in my hand . Thinking it was a Show Special and as far as i know it wasn;t bought . but i didn't stay for the whole show .
 
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If the fps is under 500 then no license is needed. Anything over 500fps requires a PAL, Possesion and Aquisitiion License.
The cost for a PAL (Possession and Acquisition License) in Canada, which allows individuals to possess and acquire rifles and shotguns, is approximately $225. This includes the course cost of $190 and a textbook for $35. Additionally, a Restricted PAL (for handguns) costs around $160.
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It's much more subtle than a 500fps upper limit. There is an energy limit. And then there are ridiculous "shape of the gun" limitations. For example, a Crossman 1322 in "Canadian configuration" requires no license at all. But if they made the slightest mistake configuring your Canadian version, you may easily be walking around with a prohibited weapon, not even a weapon that needs a license. That Crosman 1322 is the equivalent of a select-fire machine gun, in the eyes of the RCMP.

I suppose I should add, some of our legistlation is so confusingly worded that *in principle* (no court cases to back this up yet) if an RCMP officer tested your "500fps airgun" with excessively light ammunition, it may break the 500fps limit and be considered a prohibited weapon. i.e. not only are our laws draconian, but they're so ambiguously worded that you can essentially get convictions by being unreasonable.
 
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It's much more subtle than a 500fps upper limit. There is an energy limit. And then there are ridiculous "shape of the gun" limitations. For example, a Crossman 1322 in "Canadian configuration" requires no license at all. But if they made the slightest mistake configuring your Canadian version, you may easily be walking around with a prohibited weapon, not even a weapon that needs a license. That Crosman 1322 is the equivalent of a select-fire machine gun, in the eyes of the RCMP.
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True. There is a lot of fine print in the ever evolving firearms regulations.
 
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