Other .30 or .356 Cal?

...well, the .30 won't have considerably more power energy wise than the .22 LR...

...I guess you could say they are comparable with the .30 air rifle trailing a bit...

...a 56 grain pellet @ 950 FPS = 112.25 FPE...



EDIT: I misread that...I thought you meant more than .22 LR for some reason...

...still a useful chart methinks @ perspective...I wouldn't use a .30 pellet rifle on any shot I would hesitate to use a .22 LR on...

...if I were looking for a dedicated coyote air rifle I might get (backorder) this :


...it can develop 270 FPE...

...or maybe this...400 FPE....




...that said, I would shoot a coyote with my .30 Ghost if the right shot presented itself...

...IMHO yes...like more than double FPE...

...FWIW...40 Grains @ 1050 FPS = 97.95 FPE...

...the calculators forum in the resource section at the bottom of the main page is very helpful...

...the .308 Texan is only like 100FPE less than .357 Texan...so much for double...


...the Texans are probably the most powerful .30 and .357's, but they are rather polarizing...

I am in the same boat. I want to get a more powerful PCP for coyote, bobcat, and stray dogs. Been looking at .30 and .357.
I think either would do the trick, but if I choose .30, I want to be at the higher end of the power spectrum. There are several that will get into the 150 fpe range for .30:
FX Dynamic, AGT Vulcan 3 / Uragan 2, Western Airguns Rattler, AirForce and the upcoming RTI Mora.
I don't think there would be any issues with a .30 slug at 150 fpe, but as always a .357 will add a little cushion for error.

...now I wish I had gotten one of those...!!!...(grin)

The difference among killing power of a .25 vs a .30 and a .367 cals Airgun rifle are huge in terms of "Hunting Energy Units" (HEU's)

A .25 Cal at 60 fpe gives 580 HEU's

A .30 Cal at 90 fpe gives 1070 HEU's

A .357 Cal at 132 fpe gives 1900 HEU's

HEU's include damage in tissue. Fpe is just a meassure of energy.


But when hunting with air rifles shot placement is the name of the game and the difference among having a clean kill or just hurt an animal.

Dawgfish said:

Good points. Have never heard of HEU's. I cull elk for the state and am a big believer in an accurate rifle more than a powerful one, shooting 35 elk in the past 6 years, mostly with a 110 gr 6.8 SPC Barnes TTSX, but a pellet rifle isn't shooting a monolithic copper bullet.

Really leaning towards the .356/9mm.

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