Mechanical or Electronic?

For a match gun I'm down for electronic. If I got to shoot a groundhog in its stupid face and can't because I forgot to plug my gun in I'd be pretty upset

While I'm sure they are well made, to me, it's more complex stuff that can break / fail and be a PIA to repair. I still cling to mechanical orientation. IDK - maybe I'm too old school thinking.

I had a blast with e-grips/triggers on paintball guns...but never once have I considered it on pellet guns.

I like everything about my Red Wolf, except for the trigger. It is too light for me. I much prefer the trigger on my RAW LRT.

In today's world, it is my belief that electronics generally surpass mechanical systems in accuracy over time; however, electronics come with a cost when malfunctions occur, which is inevitable. While mechanical issues can be addressed, the question remains for electronics: can they be repaired on-site, or must they be sent away for service?

Takes very little time to make shooting adjustments compared to mechanical..memory settings are pretty cool
The trigger pull is fine for bench shooting, but does take a little getting used to..it's a mouse click more than a trigger pull
Don't believe you have to worry about the battery charge,. You are aware when you are running out of pellets?..then you will be aware when the charge is low

the problem i see with electronics is : if you need a new part you buy the whole board instead of buying a resistor / .04 cent or a $229.00 board ,
and that is if they still have the boards in stock . Electronic board parts change with the individual parts available for manufacture , the company may find a cheaper supplier .

the electronic trigger in my Morini pistol is in the grip = lefty grips / $500

Although the Red Wolf and others are touted as “electronic” they are actually electromechanical as the electronic section actuates a mechanical device. So does it increase the number of components that can wear or fail in an airgun ? From everything I’ve read on AGN the Red Wolf has a decent reputation. I have read of electronic issues but don’t have any recollection of mechanical failures. There have been some posts regarding accuracy issues but IIRC it was a barrel related problem.
I am totally happy with my Evol and Paradigm but I could see myself someday buying a Red Wolf to try out. The easily adjustable reg pressure and other adjustments sound nice. I’m not a tuner but the Red Wolf sounds like it’s easy to alter adjustments and as long as you log your initial or previous settings you could always return to them if they didn’t pan out.

beerthief said:

the problem i see with electronics is : if you need a new part you buy the whole board instead of buying a resistor / .04 cent or a $229.00 board ,
and that is if they still have the boards in stock . Electronic board parts change with the individual parts available for manufacture , the company may find a cheaper supplier .

the electronic trigger in my Morini pistol is in the grip = lefty grips / $500

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Ouch, your post popped up as I was typing mine (post #9). Dang, maybe I’ll just stick with my Evol and Paradigm.

rcs9250 said:

Ouch, your post popped up as I was typing mine (post #9). Dang, maybe I’ll just stick with my Evol and Paradigm.

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two very nice guns you have . my morini is now 8 years old and came with lefty grips which did not cost extra but if you buy a lefty and your righty or vice versa ouch. and no you cannot switch the board to the new grips

Mechanical for me. Tried one of the first Delta Wolf rifles-big mistake. Mechanical things I can fix. Software which someone else has written I cannot. I can barely remember to keep my phone and tablet charged. The trigger was nice for target shooting but too light for hunting. Since I am a 75% hunter and 25% target shooter, I'll stick with a quality mechanical gun with a sweet trigger, like the Taipan Veteran.

wijib said:

I'm an old fart and love mechanical things of all sorts. Just love the feel of a well made anything. I'm about to try out a Red Wolf. I'll no doubt add to this post once I've received my new Red Wolf and had a chance to shoot it. However, those of you that have an opinion about this please chime in as to your feelings/emotions regarding "electronic" airguns as opposed to mechanical airguns. Pro's, cons, etc. This has probably been discussed ad nauseam prior to my post but I was unsuccessful in finding much.

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I'm also an old guy that finds most anything mechanical interesting.

I have a couple of older Daystate Pulsars. While it takes me a few shots to get used to the "fineness" (if that's a word) of the electronic trigger, it's pretty hard for a mechanical trigger to beat it as far as a "no-load" action. If you set it well, there is still the "wall", but it's a VERY fine line, between the first stage, the wall, and second stage in the electronic triggers.

You learn NOT to "touch" the trigger at all, until you are actually...ready...to shoot.

Mike

Bluf, the electronics just work. Kinda like clicking a mouse . Like a good springer , everyone should have at least one. You will love the Redwolf and ask yourself what took me so long.

The Red Wolf is very close to my perfect rifle, of those I've owned or tried. A lot is said about the electronics failing but they are quite reliable... the numbers of failures are incredibly low. Mk3s and Mk4s are still going so the RW will almost certainly be in there with those (Mk5). As mentioned above, it's electromechanical. The solenoid system gives a free flight hammer that helps with it's incredible efficiency. There are only 7 orings and only the valve stem and breech orings are wear items. The firing behavior is as nice as anything out there. While the trigger is light, I'll agree with other trigger snobs that it doesn't have the feel of a really nice mechanical one... but QUITE useable. It's tuneable over a HUGE range of power. My favorite aspect is that it does NOT have a reg but senses the pressure and adjusts the hammer strike to keep the velocity constant.
Now I've had mine since late 2017 where I've used it and the later Safari to test the barrels in the ART program. It's been upgraded from the original as there were problems associated with high power levels but I'm quite sure I'm tapping on 100k rounds through it... at least the basic rifle. I have 177, 22, 25, and 30 cal setups for it. The 22 and 25 have been the bulk of the shooting. I also changed out the board to a Heliboard to give more power levels and less time tuning, but the GCU2 is a GREAT board.
I also have a Ghost and Delta Wolf,. There are big differences in the 3. I like the fit and tuneability of the DW the most but really hate messing with the reg plus the RW will go weeks of high volume shooting on a battery where the DW needs charging after 1 day of it. If I were hunting or out for a weekend or longer, I'd take the Ghost.
Well THAT was a lot of ramblings but CONGRATULATIONS on your acquisition...
Hope you find the RW as enjoyable as my wife and I do...
Bob

I wanted a Daystate and seriously considered the RedWolf.

But I worked in electronics (PCB design) my whole career and know first hand about the (potential) issues.

That being said, I opted for the all-mechanical Wolverine.

The super fine mechanical triggers on my 10 meter pistols and rifles are awesome - IMHO electronics are not necessary in airguns and best suited for cell phones and such. Guess that I think of electronic triggers as gimmicks rather than being practical.

Each to their own, all the best to you and your RedWolf!

Cheers!

I'm all for E-vehicles absolutely love them but when it comes to guns ...No way !
the more simple the better for me, I don't see any advantages and want my guns to be as simple as possible.

I considered trying a Redwolf even after my failed attempt with the DW, but installation of the Heliboard voids your warranty, so I walked away. I guess if I lived in AZ (closer to AoA) , I might reconsider.

I've had a Red Wolf for several years, and it has been trouble free. That said, I have no intentions of buying another electronic rifle. The timing out of the firing mechanism when the safety is off can be a pain in a hunting situation. The trigger is finicky to set up, and the first stage is just a nuisance. I finally got mine set up as single stage at around 4 ounces, which is fine for target shooting. I believe that many of the folks who rave about the electronic trigger have never experienced a first-class mechanical match trigger. It can be set plenty light, but it can't compare with the crisp release of a high quality, real trigger. And obviously, you have to be sure that the rifle is charged if you are leaving home. Overall, the Red Wolf experience has been fun, and I expect that I'll keep it a while longer, but it will never replace my favorite mechanical rifles.

Keeping an open mind I would like to try the electronic trigger and the faster lock time of these platforms however I'm pretty sure my groups wouldn't improve as I'm satisified with my mechanical triggers, Daystate FX Taipan I'm good. Printed this 5 shot .3" cc group last evening with my Bobcat .25 six year old gun benched at 49 yards, (double checked the range) it isn't even my best trigger...Electric trigger...I doubt it!
I'll send it to you Bill...You know my feelings...lol.