HW/Weihrauch I blame you ...mostly

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Hold_Over said:
Good logic. I got swivels and a sling coming. Probably not needed with a gun this weight, but I like having my hands free hiking etc. At close to 10 fpe, no reason this thing shouldn't get a walk in the woods now and then.
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I use a sling on mine too, and although the R7 is light, I find it helpful when hunting. Where I hunt it is not unusual to walk a few miles in a typical outing.

As for price, I evaluate everything in terms of price-per-hours-of-enjoyment. And on that basis, all of my spring guns are a screaming value. All of them have been shot many thousands of times for many hours, far more than any of my firearms (which largely sit unused).

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There is a chance I shot this enough yesterday to need a barrel cleaning today....
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Clearly there is a difference in some part of the manufacturing of barrels from one maker to the next. I probably put 250 shots through this on the first day, and noticed the group size was larger and less consistent on the 2nd day. First cleaned my glasses...no help. Then cleaned the barrel and everything went back where it should be. Making this the classy girl from the other side of the tracks that brings the high maintenence.
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And this is the dirty girl from the trailer park that's fine with backyard BBQ on a paper plate,and just as much of a good time where it counts. Don't remember the last time I cleaned the barrel on this, when it stops being almost unfair to the bullseye I will give it a go.
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beerthief said:
you may want to wash your pellets , easy thing to do . What did you fingers look like ?
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A little gray but not filthy. I tried that recently with a different rifle and tried testing after. 1 tin unwashed, 1 washed and dried, and 1 washed dried and lubed. That particular rifle shots best with the dirty stuff...I may try it again at some point but those results were not encouraging to make the extra effort
 
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Hold_Over said:
Excite wadcutters
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I'm not terribly familiar with the Excite wadcutters. It's been a while since I've used them. I remember them being fairly uniform and well made with ok accuracy for plinking. I don't remember if they're hard or soft lead. I believe H&N makes them so they shouldn't be terribly hard. Still I'm surprised it needed a cleaning so fast. If you stay away from hard lead pellets that thing shouldn't ever need a cleaning. You still should get a few thousand shots between cleaning with hard lead. Perhaps try some JSB 7.33 RS and or polishing the barrel with JB bore paste.

My 30s have tens of thousands shots on them since their last cleaning. I shoot mostly JSBs through them. Occasionally Meisterkugln 8.2 and H&N 8.2 wadcutters.

Hth. Very nice rife I know you'll enjoy it. I love mine.
 
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Mycapt65 said:
My 30s have tens of thousands shots on them since their last cleaning. I shoot mostly JSBs through them. Occasionally Meisterkugln 8.2 and H&N 8.2 wadcutters.
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How many springs have your HW30s gone through over the course of "tens of thousdands of shots?" Just curious. I have a late '70s non-Beeman HW30 that's probably seen several thousand shots. The original spring is weak, but maybe it always was since I didn't have a chrono back in the day. But even though it averages only 5.26 fpe with an 8.4 gr. pellet, the standard deviation is low, and I can get dime-sized groups with open sights @ 40'.
 
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Hold_Over said:
This a good question
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I have two Hw30s and my wife has the third. Her's is a low mileage model bought in 2020/21. It probably has three or four thousand shots through it. Most of them shot by yours truly. I brought her gun on vacations to our Arkansas home before we moved here permanently. It has a Vortek PG4 and piston seal. It's a hummer making 8.5 fpe in 177.

The other two I've had since 2016 and 2018. I'd shoot them for hours on my basement range during the NY winter months to ward off seasonal depression. I'd go through almost two 500ct tins a day. Do the math. During the fishing season ( mid April to mid December) they'd see less use but I'd still be running at least two or three tins a week through them. More with trips to the Brookhaven rifle range and my friends cattle ranch in Broome County NY.

My 2016 base model Hw30 probably has closer to 100k rounds through it. I bought my second Hw30 from AoA in 2018 when they put the laminates on sale. I always wanted one and I was tired of flip flopping my first 30 between scope and peeps. The laminate certainly has tens of thousands of shots through it.

I shot my 2016 until I broke the factory spring after one summer of shooting. The other two I kitted them on arrival. My first two guns each have probably had three or four Vortek springs replaced and about as many Vortek piston seals. The only thing else I've had to replace is 4mm dowel the ball detent pops over and a breech seal. They get worn and lock up suffers. It's easy enough to shift it or roll it over to a fresh spot. They're cheap enough, I just replace them.

I use my peep sighted first Hw30 the most. That's of all my rifles. It's a blast to plink and pest inside 25 yards. I'll get two inch spinners with it at 50 yards. I use the laminated scoped 30 for shooting 25 or 30 yard groups and long range plinking. With the wind down I can repeatedly hit beer cans at 100yds. It's a hoot.

You cannot overestimate my affection for these guns.
 
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Mycapt65 said:
I have two Hw30s and my wife has the third. Her's is a low mileage model bought in 2020/21. It probably has three or four thousand shots through it. Most of them shot by yours truly. I brought her gun on vacations to our Arkansas home before we moved here permanently. It has a Vortek PG4 and piston seal. It's a hummer making 8.5 fpe in 177.

The other two I've had since 2016 and 2018. I'd shoot them for hours on my basement range during the NY winter months to ward off seasonal depression. I'd go through almost two 500ct tins a day. Do the math. During the fishing season ( mid April to mid December) they'd see less use but I'd still be running at least two or three tins a week through them. More with trips to the Brookhaven rifle range and my friends cattle ranch in Broome County NY.

My 2016 base model Hw30 probably has closer to 100k rounds through it. I bought my second Hw30 from AoA in 2018 when they put the laminates on sale. I anyways wanted one and I was tired of flip flopping my first 30 between scope and peeps. The laminate certainly has tens of thousands of shots through it.

I shot my 2016 until I broke the factory spring after one summer of shooting. The other two I kitted them on arrival. My first two guns each have probably had three or four Vortek springs replaced and about as many Vortek piston seals. The only thing else I've had to replace is 4mm dowel the ball detent pops over and a breech seal. They get worn and lock up suffers. It's easy enough to shift it or roll it over to a fresh spot. They're cheap enough, I just replace them.

I use my peep sighted first Hw30 the most. That's of all my rifles. It's a blast to plink and pest inside 25 yards. I'll get two inch spinners with it at 50 yards. I use the laminated scoped 30 for shooting 25 or 30 yard groups and long range plinking. With the wind down I can repeatedly hit beer cans at 100yds. It's a hoot.

You cannot overestimate my affection for these guns.
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You have certainly done the reliability testing for us. Good info on the vortek kit. I was curious on those, although with no need to change anything at the current time.
 
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Hold_Over said:
I been down a so called "rabbit hole" due largely to this group and the need to carry on about weihrauch, and in particular the hw30. What seems like more posts about this rifle here than any other in the traditional/spring category. Watched numerous youtube reviews, read more on AoA, PA, etc. Came across 1 that caught my eye. 4 panel checkering with no grooves, the deluxe model with walnut stained beech wood, and the older stock design in right handed configuration.
View attachment 452617I bought it 2nd hand advertised as purchased from AoA in 2000, and stored but never so much as cracked the barrel or shot even once. Came with original box, papers, and sight inserts all intact. Among the paper was a cert from AoA that it was tested for 20 rds. At 20 yards. Upon receiving the rifle today, I believe all of this.
Someone asked on here recently if getting a rifle tested means they will clean the barrel.
View attachment 452621I would sat no, this is the first patch, and I needed a dozen more to see a clean 1.

Initial impressions were excellent. Fit, finish of components, weight/balance, quality of bluing, and feel of checkering in hand.

Things I liked. The sights, with interchangeable front inserts, and rear notch pattern are brilliant. Quite frankly I am surprised this isn't mentioned more often.

The trigger, nice feel of both stages right out of the box. I did adjust it about a half turn in to really get it feeling right for me.
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The feel and placement of the safety are excellent, and intuitive after a few shots.

The cocking stroke and shot cycle are both easy and smooth (no twang)...much more than I had anticipated even after all the reading done here. Zero dieseling from the first shot I believe confirms the testing was done, and it was cleared out during the 20 shots at AoA.

The fps numbers not being inflated by the manufacturer was nice too. After testing 3 different pellets, and about 60 shots messing with sights, and trigger adjustment, I ran some chrony numbers. Excite 7.4g wadcutters for 5 shots between 673, and 681 for an overall spread of 8 fps. Fpe around 7.6.

Accuracy, once pellets selected (not pellet picky, but these were the best), and sights Dialed in. Offhand at 10 m.View attachment 452639
Things that were less desirable.

Unlike most stuff I have where when the safety is engaged, you pull and hit a wall to realize you left it on. This with the safety on the trigger still travels, but does not have 2 stages, and doesn't fire. So the first time it happened I stayed on target as the trigger moved but nothing happened...not a huge deal.

The adjustments on the sights. Elevation is marked in a number sequence and easy to know which way to turn. Windage has no markings, unlike most rifles which indicate right or left with an arrow to inform which direction for correction on target. Again not big complaint.

There is a chance I paid too much given that it is 2nd hand. Given the condition, the stock styling, overall quality, and enjoyment of shooting I would pay it again.

I did not need this rifle, but am glad I have it. I shall leave credit or blame in your hands for the lack of money in my wallet today.
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Nice write up.
Congrats!
 
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