MAC1 USFT Analysis/Overview

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On a different note....who ended up with this sweet black and orange one from a week or two ago?

PCP Rifle - USFT for sale

USFT #142 for sale. Includes .177 Lilja barrel (very accurate and expensive), .20 LW barrel (I won the 2016 TN State match, open class with thus gun and this .20 barrel), benchrest mount, spare parts kit. Scope not included. Will ship to lower 48 only. $1100 shipped.
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
 
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Franklink said:
Ted of Ted's holdover did a video on a friends USFT at one point. I'm vaguely remembering that THAT USFT was one of the early ones with a 2 groove Benchmark barrel.

Also vaguely remembering, but for some reason I'm thinking those 2 groove Benchmark barrels were only in .22.....anybody got more concrete info?
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You're right
Took me a bit to find the vid, but Ted talk about it and does a bore scope at 7.30 minute mark
Soo much time has passed ..ugh
 
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Franklink said:
On a different note....who ended up with this sweet black and orange one from a week or two ago?

PCP Rifle - USFT for sale

USFT #142 for sale. Includes .177 Lilja barrel (very accurate and expensive), .20 LW barrel (I won the 2016 TN State match, open class with thus gun and this .20 barrel), benchrest mount, spare parts kit. Scope not included. Will ship to lower 48 only. $1100 shipped.
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
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if i said "you dog" would you know i was just jealous! a usft for less than $2500 is a bargain, no wait, a steal.....
 
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if i said "you dog" would you know i was just jealous! a usft for less than $2500 is a bargain, no wait, a steal.....
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Wasn't me but whoever got it got a good deal.

From the few that come up used and the other few that I know of that have been purchased used by friends in the last 5ish years..........seems something like $1500ish is typical. With the reasonable range being $1300-1800. All that dependant on whether or not all the accessories are part of the package.....knee risers, thigh rest, etc.

Somebody PMd me a few years ago and found one for $800-900 if I remember correctly. That's the cheapest I've ever heard of one going for. This orange and black one that just sold was certainly priced to sell too.
 
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Of my three most expensive air rifles the USFT is by far the worst.

It won't hold air for more than 24 hours and the regulator pressure drifts between shots.

In comparison:

My FX Impact M3 will hold air for months. The first regulator drifts up about 5 bar in storage but will drop to setpoint during the first 3 sighters and remain there for every shot during the match.

My Piatt - Thomas will hold pressure until the sun burns out and the regulator does not drift. My FPE has remained between 11.5 and 11.9 since November 1 2023.

I am going to try one more time to have the leak fixed on the USFT and if unsuccessful l am going to back over it with the truck and leave it as road kill.
 
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Troy Bakel said:
Of my three most expensive air rifles the USFT is by far the worst.

It won't hold air for more than 24 hours and the regulator pressure drifts between shots.

In comparison:

My FX Impact M3 will hold air for months. The first regulator drifts up about 5 bar in storage but will drop to setpoint during the first 3 sighters and remain there for every shot during the match.

My Piatt - Thomas will hold pressure until the sun burns out and the regulator does not drift. My FPE has remained between 11.5 and 11.9 since November 1 2023.

I am going to try one more time to have the leak fixed on the USFT and if unsuccessful l am going to back over it with the truck and leave it as road kill.
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Unfortunate to hear.

The leak is something that eventually comes for all airguns.

The regulator issue in this platform is avoided by having an unregulated USFT.

List it for sale before Edgun-ing it down with the truck.
 
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The only parts of my purchase that work as designed is the case and the scope.
 
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Franklink said:
Unfortunate to hear.

The leak is something that eventually comes for all airguns.

The regulator issue in this platform is avoided by having an unregulated USFT.

List it for sale before Edgun-ing it down with the truck.
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This leak came with the gun as well as a corroded barrel.

I am not a fluffer for USFT.
 
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Troy Bakel said:
Of my three most expensive air rifles the USFT is by far the worst.

It won't hold air for more than 24 hours and the regulator pressure drifts between shots.

In comparison:

My FX Impact M3 will hold air for months. The first regulator drifts up about 5 bar in storage but will drop to setpoint during the first 3 sighters and remain there for every shot during the match.

My Piatt - Thomas will hold pressure until the sun burns out and the regulator does not drift. My FPE has remained between 11.5 and 11.9 since November 1 2023.

I am going to try one more time to have the leak fixed on the USFT and if unsuccessful l am going to back over it with the truck and leave it as road kill.
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no no no don't hurt it .... they are super easy to change out o-rings... or Rod at Palmyra will know how to help you and or i have the contact info for usft mac1 if you need it.
 
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no no no don't hurt it .... they are super easy to change out o-rings... or Rod at Palmyra will know how to help you and or i have the contact info for usft mac1 if you need it.
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The air leak is due to poorly machined threads not o-rings and Rod is going to try one more time to stop the leak past the threads.
 
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Franklink said:
On a different note....who ended up with this sweet black and orange one from a week or two ago?

PCP Rifle - USFT for sale

USFT #142 for sale. Includes .177 Lilja barrel (very accurate and expensive), .20 LW barrel (I won the 2016 TN State match, open class with thus gun and this .20 barrel), benchrest mount, spare parts kit. Scope not included. Will ship to lower 48 only. $1100 shipped.
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
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i was very interested but let someone else take it , i already have one Red one # 233 . I Remember watching Ted's video and the 2 groove .
 
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thane said:
Leaks are frustrating and life is too short.

$1,100 as-is, no scope, un-ran-overed and shipped.
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This gun was ordered by the original owner as a .177 20 FPE HFT tube gun. The owner never shot it as such but sent it back to USFT to be converted to a 12 FPE WFTF FT bottle gun. The original owner never shot it as such and put it up for sale. My gunsmith purchased it because his USFT on order was extremely late in being delivered.

The gun shot horribly from a 1 piece rest indoors at 20 yards and upon bore scoping was found to have a heavily corroded barrel. The gun leaked past the plug used to replace the tube gun's foster fitting.

The barrel was replaced and the leak reduced to a point you could stay on the regulator and shoot one N50 card with plenty of sighters.

I was going to order a Thomas .177 12 FPE BR but this USFT became available and l shoot with my gunsmith who owned it so l purchased it knowing he would not stop trying to fix that leak

My Impact is shooting competitive 5 round groups of less than 0.2" E to E at 20 yards indoors and currently this USFT does not.

I now own a Piatt smithed Thomas BR that is a perfect benchrest gun.

Lesson learned, the USFT is for USFT not benchrest. What wins USFT matches won't win Open Class benchrest matches, they are two completely different games.

If I can fix the air leak I may shoot it in a different class off of sand bags. If I can't fix the leak I will put it up for sale and let you know.
 
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Troy Bakel said:
This gun was ordered by the original owner as a .177 20 FPE HFT tube gun. The owner never shot it as such but sent it back to USFT to be converted to a 12 FPE WFTF FT bottle gun. The original owner never shot it as such and put it up for sale. My gunsmith purchased it because his USFT on order was extremely late in being delivered.

The gun shot horribly from a 1 piece rest indoors at 20 yards and upon bore scoping was found to have a heavily corroded barrel. The gun leaked past the plug used to replace the tube gun's foster fitting.

The barrel was replaced and the leak reduced to a point you could stay on the regulator and shoot one N50 card with plenty of sighters.

I was going to order a Thomas .177 12 FPE BR but this USFT became available and l shoot with my gunsmith who owned it so l purchased it knowing he would not stop trying to fix that leak

My Impact is shooting competitive 5 round groups of less than 0.2" E to E at 20 yards indoors and currently this USFT does not.

I now own a Piatt smithed Thomas BR that is a perfect benchrest gun.

Lesson learned, the USFT is for USFT not benchrest. What wins USFT matches won't win Open Class benchrest matches, they are two completely different games.

If I can fix the air leak I may shoot it in a different class off of sand bags. If I can't fix the leak I will put it up for sale and let you know.
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An innacurate barrel isn't necessarily the guns fault. Especially if a prior owner didn't care much about the gun and let some moisture turn into a corrosion in the bore.

One of the best features of the USFT design is the ability to swap out barrels. And the kicker here is that those barrels can be nearly blanks and still be tested. VERY minimal barrel work needed for a blank to drop into a USFT....whatever crown dressing is required, and whatever barrel lapping/polishing the owner ascribes to, and the leade can be softened up to make pellets easier to load. But no actual machining of oring grooves, etc. For those truly chasing accuracy, this feature is important enough that it was carried on to other benchrest guns. One of two "identical" barrels will always shoot better than the other. Sorting barrels has proven much more beneficial than sorting pellets in my experience.

Get the leak fixed, and find an accurate barrel, and it'll be just as competitive as anything else in the same fpe class of benchrest.
 
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