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5 Shoebox Compressors VS SCUBA TANK! GO VOLTRON FORCE!

Shoebox compressors get there name from being small and the shape of a shoebox. Yes there was a brand of booster called shoebox but if we are being Politically correct it was a booster and not a compressor? Correct me if im wrong but im 100% sure im not. So if someone calls there small shoebox shaped compressor there "shoebox compressor " it really shouldn't hurt your feelings, and if it does thats your problem. Just my 2 cents.
 
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My feelings aren't hurt by the inaccurate information that you're putting out there. Kinda disappointing to see that you just don't care about spreading misinformation though. And that extends to SCBA versus SCUBA too, not just the Shoebox trade name.

Lots of guys (new and old) come here for information about our hobby. False information doesn't help anyone, but in this hobby, it could literally kill someone.

Emergency room staff: "What caused this injury to the mangled mess that used to be your leg? We're going to have to amputate just under the knee, by the way."

Newby airgunner: "Well I watched a video from airshooter and he was loosy goosy with SCBA and SCUBA verbiage so I didn't think it mattered.....they must be pretty much the same thing right? So I put 4700psi in my 80cf aluminum SCBA tank and the tank ruptured and some of the flying aluminum chunks hit my leg, or what used to be my leg."

Words matter. Accurate information is awesome. Inaccurate information gets corrected. Your response to that correction says alot about the type of guy you are.

Less harmful than SCBA vs SCUBA is your incorrect use of the Shoebox name. You calling every smallish compressor a shoebox would be like somebody calling every tubed PCP a Marauder, and then making videos about it. It's simply incorrect. "Here's my Daystate Marauder" (actually a Huntsman). "Here's my Taipan Marauder" (actually a Veteran). "Here's my RAW Marauder" (actually a TM1000). "Here's my BSA Marauder" (actually a Gold Star). And on and on. Inaccurate information and use of terms.
 
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This one got blocked by Youtube because I of course jacked the entire Voltron into, but let's see if I can upload it here as an "exclusive" for you guys!

Bummer, too, cause I had just made this bomb-ass thumbnail to go with it:

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Basically I created a Voltron compressor by linking 5 shoeboxes together to fill a 4500psi SCUBA tank.... for science. On this channel I risk life and limb so you don't have to! Anyway, this was completely safe and worked. You're gonna wanna see this one.

Nice :) I've been thinking about getting a little shoebox like the Orcair as a backup / travel compressor.
 
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Nice :) I've been thinking about getting a little shoebox like the Orcair as a backup / travel compressor.
Yep the OrcAir is one of the best shoebox compressors of all the shoebox compressors I own, and I own a LOT of shoebox compressors! One of the best features about it is that it is extremely similar in size, shape, and appearance to that of a box that you'd put shoes in. You could even probably fit this shoebox compressor inside a shoebox.

Here is the link if you ever want to pull the trigger on the Orcair brand shoebox compressor: https://amzn.to/48QGWdZ
 
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Hey, that's my schtick! But I actually agree with this. Except all those shoeboxes were sent to me to review on the channel by various vendors. But an actual non-shoebox twin piston compressor will be purchased probably soon(ish). Forming all those shoeboxes like Voltron is a lot of work to fill my SCUBA tanks, plus its kind of taxing on them.
 
Yep the OrcAir is one of the best shoebox compressors of all the shoebox compressors I own, and I own a LOT of shoebox compressors! One of the best features about it is that it is extremely similar in size, shape, and appearance to that of a box that you'd put shoes in. You could even probably fit this shoebox compressor inside a shoebox.

Here is the link if you ever want to pull the trigger on the Orcair brand shoebox compressor: https://amzn.to/48QGWdZ

Lol, just trolling now.
 
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I just thought I'd clarify that while the original Shoebox compressor is often considered to be used to "boost" the pressure from a shop compressor (about 100 psi or so) up to PCP pressure levels, it is in fact a compressor and not a booster pump.

Booster pumps use the energy of compressed air to drive a cylinder that raises the pressure of a portion of the original air charge up to much higher pressures. As such, they end up venting a larger portion of the original compressed air back to the atmosphere, with only a small portion making it to the final high pressure state.

But the Shoebox compressor used two stages of additional compression to "boost" 100% of the air fed to it from the shop compressor to the high pressure state, with no air wasted (other than the small amount vented when done using it). It actually is capable of taking atmospheric air up to high pressures on its own without a shop compressor, but would be extremely slow in doing so - removing the ~8 bar feed air would result in roughly an 8 times longer run time.

The best way to think of how that system worked is as a three stage compressor system, but with the first stage "offloaded" to a device that many of us have and use separately - the shop compressor. Personally, I think it is a great way to go about compressing air to very high levels, in part because the use of the shop compressor allows us to remove ~90% of the water vapor from the air stream before we even begin, and to provide easy access to the air after the first stage for thorough drying with desiccants before further compression.

Tying back to the intent of the original post, these compressors can also be run in parallel to speed up filling. I have two (one purchased as a backup in case my original 10 year old one ever dies) and have tried it, but I generally don't do it as I find no need for the added fill rate.
 
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I just thought I'd clarify that while the original Shoebox compressor is often considered to be used to "boost" the pressure from a shop compressor (about 100 psi or so) up to PCP pressure levels, it is in fact a compressor and not a booster pump.

Booster pumps use the energy of compressed air to drive a cylinder that raises the pressure of a portion of the original air charge up to much higher pressures. As such, they end up venting a larger portion of the original compressed air back to the atmosphere, with only a small portion making it to the final high pressure state.

But the Shoebox compressor used two stages of additional compression to "boost" 100% of the air fed to it from the shop compressor to the high pressure state, with no air wasted (other than the small amount vented when done using it). It actually is capable of taking atmospheric air up to high pressures on its own without a shop compressor, but would be extremely slow in doing so - removing the ~8 bar feed air would result in roughly an 8 times longer run time.

The best way to think of how that system worked is as a three stage compressor system, but with the first stage "offloaded" to a device that many of us have and use separately - the shop compressor. Personally, I think it is a great way to go about compressing air to very high levels, in part because the use of the shop compressor allows us to remove ~90% of the water vapor from the air stream before we even begin, and to provide easy access to the air after the first stage for thorough drying with desiccants before further compression.

Tying back to the intent of the original post, these compressors can also be run in parallel to speed up filling. I have two (one purchased as a backup in case my original 10 year old one ever dies) and have tried it, but I generally don't do it as I find no need for the added fill rate.
Thanks for taking the time to explain that. Pretty neat, and I learned something since I never owned one myself. There were pretty expensive when they first released (IIRC) and I was just a college kid, so hand pumping was the way for me! I remember never letting others shoot my Talon SS because of all the hand pumping I'd have to do afterwards... lol
 
Thanks for taking the time to explain that. Pretty neat, and I learned something since I never owned one myself. There were pretty expensive when they first released (IIRC) and I was just a college kid, so hand pumping was the way for me! I remember never letting others shoot my Talon SS because of all the hand pumping I'd have to do afterwards... lol
Hand Pumping?
Was it a true hand pump, or just a pump operated by hand?
There is a big difference.
The true hand pump was invented in 1649 by a fellow named Otto in a small village just south of .............
Ahhh nevermind!
Thanks for the interesting video!
 
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