FX Has anyone been able to get their FX to shoot slugs MOA at 100 yards?

It is going to be much worse, but now that the 6 million of us is going to do USAs job and police the world, well the green change in Denmark are put on hold.
Now it is ICBMs and cruise missiles and drones

That NSM deal with Kongsberg in Norway, well you can forget that they are expropriated and funneled into the new Scandinavia military alliance.
Those Swedish GLSDB glide kits,,,,, well all out.
And we want a refund on our F 35 purchase.

Centercut said:

In a word, Altaros. Shoot them from Superior Heavy or Slug. 880 to 900 fps.
You’re welcome.

I have a good friend and one of the best shooters I know. Decided a short while ago to try .25 Altaros ATP Smooth. His shooting buddies convinced him to try 990, then other lower speeds above 950 fps. He emailed me and I stressed fast is not good with these. He lowered to 920 and said it got much better then he went down to my suggested 900 fps and shot the below 5 shot group at 100 yards with .25 Superior Slug 1:16 twist. Hard to beat that!

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This is the accuracy that I'm looking for, Altaros slugs are one of the brands that I haven't tried.

keesbo said:

FX Dreamline classic .22 with special modified stock. The standard synthetic stock is to flexibele.
It's the newer version with the AMP2 regulator and larger plenum.
Added an extra power plenum, 600MM barrel with Superior Liner. No silencer.
HuMa regulator and Slug probe.
2 barrelbands, lighter trigger spring.
Regulator pressure 118Bar, speed 278M/s
H&N 23 grain .218

The best thing to do is to get rid of the magazine and buy a Carm single Shot LoaderView attachment 441263View attachment 441262

10 schot groups Not always that good , buth sub MOA regulary

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I will add to this, if you do have an FX magazine and ditch it for a orioniguanahunter magazine or a huntertactical magazine. For shooting slugs, they will make a world of difference. I tried a huma single shot loader on my .impact 22 and it didn't fit well so I tossed it in my spare drawer.

JaceSpace1369 said:

I will add to this, if you do have an FX magazine and ditch it for a orioniguanahunter magazine or a huntertactical magazine. For shooting slugs, they will make a world of difference. I tried a huma single shot loader on my .impact 22 and it didn't fit well so I tossed it in my spare drawer.

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I second, get the Orion the iguana hunter magazine !

How is your accuracy at 50 yards? If you are getting good accuracy at 50 yards but not great at 100 then you need to learn to read the wind. If you are not getting good accuracy at 50 yards then you most likely need to fine tune your gun for the slugs you are shooting.

Probably only a few in the entire world that do 1 moa at 100Y most of the time with slugs. One is Mike N and I remember one other guy in Europe that shoots a expensive pcp designed to shoot rimfire bullets(projectile only). IIRC he shoots in a indoor range so no wind to worry about.

Using my V3 and Thomas I've shot a bunch of sub MOA groups at 100Y with slugs in low winds but there's "no way" I can do it most of the time. I even have a expensive one piece rest and a heavy duty 150 pound super solid table to shoot off of.

Simply put the best BR shooters, with those awesome tools capable of performing this task, that put hundreds of thousands of projectiles through their guns, have learned many small nuances the normy's like me will never acquire. Unless of course we pay a similar price in time and money like they did to learn what they have.

One example that loosely relates is how good the pro pistol shooters get and I'm referring to the best of the best who have literally put 50,000 or more rounds down their barrels every year. I watched Jethro Dionsio knock down six 8" plates at 12 yards in 1.96 seconds from the holster using his Open pistol in 38 super, then setting the fastest time we knew of up to that point. Imagine the price he paid to get that good! For scale, at that time I could do this in 3.5 seconds and I was practicing about 7000 rounds a year.

I suppose its like this with every sport.

I think that i am that guy, but last week i shot our first match for the100 meter championship with the Panthera .22. i won the Panthera at a lotery and i am really surprised about the accuracy. I onLy could test the gun a few weeks, but i won the match. 5 shot groups are easy smaller than moa.

Bert

qball said:

How is your accuracy at 50 yards? If you are getting good accuracy at 50 yards but not great at 100 then you need to learn to read the wind. If you are not getting good accuracy at 50 yards then you most likely need to fine tune your gun for the slugs you are shooting.

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If there is wind then yes, I pick calm days for my ELR shooting and I can do back to back to back MOA groups with the .22 and .30 but I've been skunked with .25.

The illusion that has been created by the industry about 100+ yard slug accuracy is responsible for millions of dollars spent. I don’t know if it’s a rabbit hole or a Venus flytrap. Guys see or hear things where this guy or that is popping birds or winning a hitting metal things competition at distances beyond 100 and they just assume that they have guns that shoot under MOA all the time. So the chase begins and money spent chasing something that just might not even be there. Trust me, you don’t need a MOA gun to hit stuff at extreme distances if you fire enough shots at it. That’s the illusion guys fall for. There is however some pretty good long range accuracy and consistency to be had if you put in some work and understand the limitations of your equipment.

I blame the SA dudes for making people think you can just buy a certain pellet gun and start shooting MOA groups with slugs.
This whole thing started because a few shooters from SA didn’t want to use up there firearm limit on bigger caliber airguns (larger than.22). So they started experimenting with slugs and I guess things have turned out well for them because they sold the hype very well on youtube.

Now we have average joes dumping hard earned money on chasing the slug dream only to find accuracy less than a Daisy BB gun.

This is a 50 yard target with the Mav. with Baracudas


This is 100y with the same pellets. The center group was shot before the wind picked up . The outer groups were shot faster and the wind was gusting . On a good day I'm sure I could some sub moa groups. My first attempt at 100 yards. 1" squares.



Fx hybrid slugs at 50y . I haven't tried them at 100y yet but it has some potential for a sub moa group. I would like to try the Altaros slugs.

Firewalker said:

If there is wind then yes, I pick calm days for my ELR shooting and I can do back to back to back MOA groups with the .22 and .30 but I've been skunked with .25.

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Even 1 mph wind will move the slug at 100 yards. Depends on the slug it might not be much but without wind flags you would not know if there is wind or not……if it is an outdoor range then there is very little chance to have no wind for more than a few minutes to seconds.

All my one shot groups are sub moa.......at any distance. LOL

I always shoot the 100 meters indoors.
Great if you shoot an airgun and offcourse a transport system for the shooting card.

Vetmx said:

The illusion that has been created by the industry about 100+ yard slug accuracy is responsible for millions of dollars spent. I don’t know if it’s a rabbit hole or a Venus flytrap. Guys see or hear things where this guy or that is popping birds or winning a hitting metal things competition at distances beyond 100 and they just assume that they have guns that shoot under MOA all the time. So the chase begins and money spent chasing something that just might not even be there. Trust me, you don’t need a MOA gun to hit stuff at extreme distances if you fire enough shots at it. That’s the illusion guys fall for. There is however some pretty good long range accuracy and consistency to be had if you put in some work and understand the limitations of your equipment.

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I hope you weren't pointing that finger at me?

I can shoot and shoot well, general statements like that are an attempt to gaslight people, very arrogant and belittling statements.

Mufasa said:

These slugs are too expensive though. Nice group

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Good luck winning the race on the 85 octane.

Firewalker said:

I hope you weren't pointing that finger at me?

I can shoot and shoot well, general statements like that are an attempt to gaslight people, very arrogant and belittling statements.

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If I am going to point a finger at an individual, I‘ll use a name. I was speaking generally. In a nutshell, what appears to be easy and almost the norm, is not. It just appears that everyone is doing it with ease so why can’t I. Then we see a topic like this. What I’m seeing more of lately, and I like it, is guys being honest about their struggles. It helps other members not feel like they’re dumb. I have figured out a lot of slug things since I dove into them seven years ago. I have a few exceptional guns but I by no means walk on water. I still feel the pain from time to time so I can sympathize with the frustrated guys.

Mufasa said:

These slugs are too expensive though. Nice group

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You don’t need no stinking expensive slugs to have MOA accuracy at 100 yards…….you only need some wind reading skills. Just think how awesome it would be to shoot better groups than slugs with cheap pellets?

I managed a MOA group with 22 cal CPHP at 100 yards, which is 1 cent a piece but then I messed up on the wind call on the last shot. Not a single shot from this group had wind hold less than 3 mils or 10 MOA/inches, it was 5-10mph swirling wind that day.
EDIT: the point is if you learn the wind drift for each ammo and learn to read the wind you can get MOA groups or better at 100 yards. Not even all slugs are equal, far from it.

Vetmx said:

If I am going to point a finger at an individual, I‘ll use a name. I was speaking generally. In a nutshell, what appears to be easy and almost the norm, is not. It just appears that everyone is doing it with ease so why can’t I. Then we see a topic like this. What I’m seeing more of lately, and I like it, is guys being honest about their struggles. It helps other members not feel like they’re dumb. I have figured out a lot of slug things since I dove into them seven years ago. I have a few exceptional guns but I by no means walk on water. I still feel the pain from time to time so I can sympathize with the frustrated guys.

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The challenge I see with slugs with most people is expectations. A lot of people expect MOA accuracy for every group at 100 yards by aiming at the bullseye and pull the trigger. This is not center fire, the hardest part is learning the ballistic of each slug and reading the wind.

THEN there is tuning the gun to shoot slugs, just like center fire with reloading, tuning is essential for slugs but a lot of information/advise people give out on how to tune for slugs aren’t what I would call effective or the right approach. Not to put anyone down but it’s best to have an expert to tune their gun for slugs or just shoot pellets if one do not wish to invest good amount of time and thinking. Tinkering alone may not get you the desired results consistently. And most guns besides FX are very difficult/time consuming to tune.

So yes. I agree the marketing did get people to set incorrect expectations. Those SA guys are phenomenal shooters and tuners, they made quite a few videos on how they got there but I’m sure most people only watched the fun/interesting videos of them blasting pests and skipped the boring how to videos.