Airgun Technologies Agt Vulcan 3 .30 and zan slugs

Yes, tried both, gave up on AVS .3063, despite solid accuracy, after having to use both feet to close sidelever! Ordered Zan's .30 slug assortment box and .303 in 61 and 51 grains. After several testing sessions, Vulcan 3 and Uragan 2 (700mm) preferred .300 (59 grains,) .303 (61 grain) coming in distant second. Of six boxed .30 Zan slug varieties, 59 grain was top, 54 grain next, followed by 49. Just ordered 4 boxes of Zans (59 grain) from Pyramyd Air using, "buy 3, get one free," and 11% midwinter sale discount. Also, ordered .30 slugs from two other vendors in 59-61 grain weights, to see if V3 might prefer. Uragan 2 loves the Zans 59 grain, V3 groups them better than the rest, would like to find a slug as accurate as AVS .3063, if possible. WM

Glad to oblige, bought both around holiday season a year back. U2 returned for re-designed balanced valve, under warranty, after few months, been fine since. Both share similar power but U2 is smoother shooting, quieter and more flexible with ammo, pellets and slugs. Normally a pellet guy, the U2 is decent with JSB 44.75s, V3, not so much, can't blame them, they're slug guns. New to the preferred slug search, U2 accuracy with Zan's (59 grain) .30 has blown me away. AVS and NSA .300 selections are on their way to test in V3, fingers crossed. WM

Hankthetank75 said:

Good day! From what I can gather the vulcan 3 .30 has a barrel diameter of .3063. I know avs makes slugs that are specifically suited for this barrel. I am wondering if anyone has tried the zan 61gr .303 slugs in their vulcan 3 .30 and if so how did they group?

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I use the AVS .3063 which are tight as worriedman said but also extremely accurate. I use Slick 50 one lube on all my slugs and pellets the lube really makes the .3063 avs chamber much easier.

MACTEN said:

I use the AVS .3063 which are tight as worriedman said but also extremely accurate. I use Slick 50 one lube on all my slugs and pellets the lube really makes the .3063 avs chamber much easier.

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NSA slugs arrived today, .300 (61.5 grain) dish base. Uragan 2 loved them, outshooting even the Zans (59 grain), dead center @ 50 yards, with only one click up in elevation! Vulcan 3 threw them all over the place. Waiting on AVS delivery of .3003 (60 grain) dish base for testing in V3. If no-go, I'll switch to lower power configuration, as suggested by a member, and test all over again. Not a mechanical engineer but that much force to close a side-lever, for .3063 slugs, just isn't a positive long-term program for the gun, IMO. WM

I shoot the AVS 61gr VUL slugs that were made for this gun and they are very accurate with my gun. I have the gun now where I can shoot these slugs and with a bit of scope tinkering mine shoots the FX 50.2g with great grouping. My average fps with the pellets are 952 and the gun is right at 100 FPS so I intend to use it for XFT (as well as my main coyote gun!).

WorriedMan said:

NSA slugs arrived today, .300 (61.5 grain) dish base. Uragan 2 loved them, outshooting even the Zans (59 grain), dead center @ 50 yards, with only one click up in elevation! Vulcan 3 threw them all over the place. Waiting on AVS delivery of .3003 (60 grain) dish base for testing in V3. If no-go, I'll switch to lower power configuration, as suggested by a member, and test all over again. Not a mechanical engineer but that much force to close a side-lever, for .3063 slugs, just isn't a positive long-term program for the gun, IMO. WM

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I've put quite a few through it without a problem but I already have marked down somewhere the breech o-ring size just in case. I still think the lube was a big difference in the ease of closing the bolt. It seems to like the jsb 50.2 gr as well but it's the skirt closing the gap of course.

Pfddi,
Are those AVS 61 grain slugs .30 or .3063? What does VUL stand for?

MACTEN said:

I've put quite a few through it without a problem but I already have marked down somewhere the breech o-ring size just in case. I still think the lube was a big difference in the ease of closing the bolt. It seems to like the jsb 50.2 gr as well but it's the skirt closing the gap of course.

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Agree, lube would help, still, forcing something that much can't be good, linkage and probe-wise. Nice thing about owning both, U2 can be the "powerhouse" while V3, configured to low power, can hopefully be an accurate shooter without the .3063 slug. WM

Hankthetank75 said:

I am still torn between the U2 and the V3. You seem to be one of the only people that actually has both, and they are close to the configuration that I want (I believe your U2 is 600mm?). I am after either one in .30 cal 700mm. I prefer the looks and the calmer shot cycle of the U2, but really want to hit 120 fpe with the avs 62.5gr slugs. Do you think the U2 is capable of sending the 62.5’s @950 fps?

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U2 and V3 are 700mm, both similar "out-of-the-box" power. Chrono'd JSB 44.75s, U2@984FPS (95.8FPE), V3@986FPS (96.6FPE). Recent search for alternative to AVS .3063 slugs, for V3, due to forced loading and cost, so far, nothing matches accuracy. If unable to find accuracy in V3, without .3063 slugs, will reconfigure to lower power and try again. If I only owned a V3, this would stink since I wanted an airgun generating close to 100 FPE, without having to install the SA upgrade kit. U2, on the other hand, shoots ZANS (59 grain) and NSA 62.5s perfectly, JSB 44.75s decently, other slugs not far behind. If only allowed one, U2, all the way, AGTs balanced valve technology seems to resolve the issue facing the V3. Haven't chrono'd slugs but U2 and V3 generate same power, U2 just manages it better. WM

WorriedMan said:

Pfddi,
Are those AVS 61 grain slugs .30 or .3063? What does VUL stand for?

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Here's the link to the slug: https://avsslugs.com/product/3063-d...lugs-hollow-point-65-to-120-grains-100-count/
They are the flat based 61gr .3063. The "VUL" is specifically for an AGT Vulcan 3. I have not found a slug more accurate than these for my .30 yet.

WorriedMan said:

Agree, lube would help, still, forcing something that much can't be good, linkage and probe-wise. Nice thing about owning both, U2 can be the "powerhouse" while V3, configured to low power, can hopefully be an accurate shooter without the .3063 slug. WM

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I hear what you're saying about the linkage but no offense to some other popular airgun brands.. Which I even own, ...But the AGT are among some other brands and at the top of my list for being robust. Heat treating the probe ( which takes about 5 minutes) will fix any flex associated with the weak link. And since probe is so small tempering shouldn't even be an issue.

Pfddi said:

Here's the link to the slug: https://avsslugs.com/product/3063-d...lugs-hollow-point-65-to-120-grains-100-count/
They are the flat based 61gr .3063. The "VUL" is specifically for an AGT Vulcan 3. I have not found a slug more accurate than these for my .30 yet.

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Thanks, most accurate I've found, too. Two concerns, .28 cents per round (product/shipping/tax) and heavy force needed to chamber. Enjoy daily target practice on home range, keeping PCPs and skills in shape, 2-3 each day, 20-30 rounds each. Don't include Vulcan 3 in rotation, ammo too pricey and wincing each time I force that side-lever closed. Decided not satisfied with that program, need less expensive ammo, that's accurate and smooth loading. If unable to find, I'll reconfigure gun to low power and search again. Thankfully, Uragan 2 has same power and shoots several brands with amazing accuracy. WM

MACTEN said:

I hear what you're saying about the linkage but no offense to some other popular airgun brands.. Which I even own, ...But the AGT are among some other brands and at the top of my list for being robust. Heat treating the probe ( which takes about 5 minutes) will fix any flex associated with the weak link. And since probe is so small tempering shouldn't even be an issue.

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Well, if I didn't have the Uragan 2, might have to go that route, right now I'll keep searching for less expensive, accurate ammo which loads easy. Thanks for the good ideas, appreciate it, might help others, too. WM

I shoot the 177 and 22 for daily practice and up to 25, but the 30 - especially with the slugs - is occasional. I have been going through the FX 50gr pellets due to the great price at Bullet Central, so I at least get to shoot it more. I save the slugs for hunting!

WorriedMan said:

Yes, tried both, gave up on AVS .3063, despite solid accuracy, after having to use both feet to close sidelever! Ordered Zan's .30 slug assortment box and .303 in 61 and 51 grains. After several testing sessions, Vulcan 3 and Uragan 2 (700mm) preferred .300 (59 grains,) .303 (61 grain) coming in distant second. Of six boxed .30 Zan slug varieties, 59 grain was top, 54 grain next, followed by 49. Just ordered 4 boxes of Zans (59 grain) from Pyramyd Air using, "buy 3, get one free," and 11% midwinter sale discount. Also, ordered .30 slugs from two other vendors in 59-61 grain weights, to see if V3 might prefer. Uragan 2 loves the Zans 59 grain, V3 groups them better than the rest, would like to find a slug as accurate as AVS .3063, if possible. WM

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Dude u want it tight. Put your purse down and shoot what is best. Both feet? Give me a break put your purse down and shoot what is proven best. Some people get into Airguns because they are scared of powder burners lol. I'm a felon but before that was in army. Dude both feet? You need slugs to fully seat in lands/grooves. Requires a little bit of pressure. I are wasting gas btw

Preston tist said:

Dude u want it tight. Put your purse down and shoot what is best. Both feet? Give me a break put your purse down and shoot what is proven best. Some people get into Airguns because they are scared of powder burners lol. I'm a felon but before that was in army. Dude both feet? You need slugs to fully seat in lands/grooves. Requires a little bit of pressure. I are wasting gas btw

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U are also wasting air I mean. Check shot count with both feet vs 30 cal exact. Just shoot pellets imo. Wow lift a little bit maybe. Not trying to be mean but I am a wussy sometimes too. And feedback from community is good

Oh and post groups with trash .30. I tried too and it is garbage compared to 30063 as is velocity dropping because u aren't seated in barrel lol.