Brocock/BRK Ghost - “if i just had 2 more inches…”

Erdb · Nov 10, 2023

of shroud that is

Put new .177 carbine barrel on my .22HP ghost but find it is too loud for my liking. Unfortunately, my .22 Falx diameter is too big to clear 480cc bottle, so I’ve considered:

1 - buy smaller 300cc bottle (less shots

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2 - see if I can get a ghost plus shroud to replace shorter carbine shroud (do they exist?)
3 - put the longer .22 hp shroud on and see if it quiets down enough (kinda defeats purpose of the short carbine barrel)
4 - open to other ideas…

What would AGN do?
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Emu · Nov 10, 2023

Ask the piece to be machined. Just an extension of current suppressor receiver with a new supressor receiver.

Super quick and easy..... And cheap.

Vetmx · Nov 10, 2023

One would think you would get a boatload of shots with a 300cc bottle. The gun would be ergonomically correct too. With the 480 you are probably looking forward to only filling the gun once a month. I’d try the 300 for a while. You might like it.

Triggs75 · Nov 10, 2023

Get a thinner moderator dedicated to your .177 barrel?

Oh and that is an interesting setup you have as a bag rider. Looks solid and won’t move while you are testing/shooting on that bench

Franklink · Nov 10, 2023

The only part of the shroud kit that determines length is the carbon fiber tube......and carbon fiber tube is relatively cheap online.

So two options, source a longer carbon fiber tube of the same specs and reuse the shroud hardware to make yourself a longer shroud. Or buy an entire new longer shroud kit.

markhooper · Nov 11, 2023

just go to a machine shop/ metal yard and get or order a piece of aluminum tubing.. have it threaded if it is needed.. I'm sick of the plastic and carbon fiber stuff and those thin barrel liners..
if I ever get a chance to do a custom build for myself, I'm going to try to get a good old fashioned hexagon barrel like would go on a Henry golden boy, along with open sights and then machine to fit a quality action.. assuming that I could afford the action..
don't have a clue where you are, but if you were close, I'd volunteer to do whatever you need, in exchange for a visit and well if I was not too tired.. maybe shoot some targets..
Mark

cavedweller · Nov 11, 2023

Erdb said:
of shroud that is

Put new .177 carbine barrel on my .22HP ghost but find it is too loud for my liking. Unfortunately, my .22 Falx diameter is too big to clear 480cc bottle, so I’ve considered:

1 - buy smaller 300cc bottle (less shots )
2 - see if I can get a ghost plus shroud to replace shorter carbine shroud (do they exist?)
3 - put the longer .22 hp shroud on and see if it quiets down enough (kinda defeats purpose of the short carbine barrel)
4 - open to other ideas…

What would AGN do?
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Turn the reg pressure down a bit? Back off on the wheel a bit? My ghost Carbine is pretty quiet as configured using a Weihrauch moderator - buying another smaller valved bottle is a great option

Erdb · Nov 11, 2023

Vetmx said:
One would think you would get a boatload of shots with a 300cc bottle. The gun would be ergonomically correct too. With the 480 you are probably looking forward to only filling the gun once a month. I’d try the 300 for a while. You might like it.

Thanks @Vetmx - it may come to that. Thanks for the feedback

Erdb · Nov 11, 2023

Triggs75 said:
Get a thinner moderator dedicated to your .177 barrel?

Oh and that is an interesting setup you have as a bag rider. Looks solid and won’t move while you are testing/shooting on that bench

@Triggs75 - leaning that way now. I think a moderator in 1.22 diameter will fit (perhaps a Hugget Snipe or Huma Mod30). That was just a random block of wood to get the barrel lined up for some quick chrono work

ctshooter · Nov 11, 2023

Get a 3 section Huma Mod30. I used that with my Alpha Wolf .177 barrel and it was extremely effective. A touch more noise reduction than a Huggett Snipe IMO.

Erdb · Nov 11, 2023

Franklink said:
The only part of the shroud kit that determines length is the carbon fiber tube......and carbon fiber tube is relatively cheap online.

So two options, source a longer carbon fiber tube of the same specs and reuse the shroud hardware to make yourself a longer shroud. Or buy an entire new longer shroud kit.

@Franklink - thanks. I'll need to check with AoA on a Plus shroud as I just don't have the time (and required tooling) to roll my own shroud.

I believe I saw you had a Hugget Atom on your carbine with a 300cc bottle at one time. Is the diameter on that really 1.22? I think a 1.22 dia moderator will fit in conjunction with a 480cc bottle - might make it look less "awkward" too.

Erdb · Nov 11, 2023

ctshooter said:
Get a 3 section Huma Mod30. I used that with my Alpha Wolf .177 barrel and it was extremely effective. A touch more noise reduction than a Huggett Snipe IMO.

@ctshooter - good info. Any suggestion on best place to source - I'm seeing palmbeachairguns has them listed but will need to check stock. Thanks!

Erdb · Nov 11, 2023

cavedweller said:
Turn the reg pressure down a bit? Back off on the wheel a bit? My ghost Carbine is pretty quiet as configured using a Weihrauch moderator - buying another smaller valved bottle is a great option
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Fair points. Primary concern is noise but I still want to be around 20fpe. I'm pushing 10.34's at around 900fps and it's pretty loud without moderator.

Currently leaning towards smaller diameter moderator now. Thanks

ctshooter · Nov 11, 2023

Erdb said:
@ctshooter - good info. Any suggestion on best place to source - I'm seeing palmbeachairguns has them listed but will need to check stock. Thanks!

I can't really recommend a place to buy. I've had mine for a few years and think I got the direct from Huma at the time.

DesertSilver · Nov 11, 2023

That's what she said.

Franklink · Nov 11, 2023

Erdb said:
@Franklink - thanks. I'll need to check with AoA on a Plus shroud as I just don't have the time (and required tooling) to roll my own shroud.

I believe I saw you had a Hugget Atom on your carbine with a 300cc bottle at one time. Is the diameter on that really 1.22? I think a 1.22 dia moderator will fit in conjunction with a 480cc bottle - might make it look less "awkward" too.

Here's some mock ups. 480 cc barrel, Carbine barrel/shroud. Both the 0db and the Huggett Atom have plenty of clearance with the bottle (shroud and both moderator are essentially the same diameter.).

Clearance

How it looks with the Huggett ATOM.

Its 29.5inches overall in the above phot but would be 29" without the aftermarket extended air stripper. It's about an inch longer with the ODB, (110 I think is the model).

Reference next to a (mostly) Veteran Short

Reference next to a HW50s, typical sporter length of 40.5"

Hopefully that gives you an idea.

Solo1 · Nov 11, 2023

The short o db mod is only about 1/4” larger in diameter than the shroud. Thats what i have on my ghost hp and its quiet Well cole was a little quicker than me. Lol

GhostRider1685 · Nov 11, 2023

I’m running the same 0db 30cal that I use on my .25hp barrel. I would like to try the new DonnyFL modular but I’m happy with this setup (for now).

Erdb · Nov 13, 2023

Franklink said:
Here's some mock ups. 480 cc barrel, Carbine barrel/shroud. Both the 0db and the Huggett Atom have plenty of clearance with the bottle (shroud and both moderator are essentially the same diameter.).

Clearance
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How it looks with the Huggett ATOM.
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Its 29.5inches overall in the above phot but would be 29" without the aftermarket extended air stripper. It's about an inch longer with the ODB, (110 I think is the model).
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Reference next to a (mostly) Veteran Short
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Reference next to a HW50s, typical sporter length of 40.5"
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Hopefully that gives you an idea.

Thanks a lot for the pics @Franklink - measurements indicated 1.22” would clear but nothing helps like seeing one mocked up.

Erdb · Nov 13, 2023

As an update to all that provided helpful input, I ordered a huma 30 standard (thinking I can always shorten later if a 3 section is quiet enough)

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