Pellets for sale: in the classifieds

Been thinking about this for a while and finally decided to say something about it. A while ago I decided if I needed some pellets, I would try to buy from a AGN member first. Then buy from a vendor if I couldn’t find what I needed. I did this for a couple months and noticed a trend. Not in all cases but in enough to make me stop buying here. I was getting other guys scraps. The ones that they didn’t want. Repackaged and resold. When you get your tins and they are incredibly packaged and in pristine tins but every pellet in 3 tins has the exact amount of damage to them, it raises an eyebrow. When you get the MRD, King Heavy, or the 30cal pellets that have to be weighed but ironically a weight class is missing from the batch you bought, it raises another eyebrow. So is there a problem with guys selling their scraps in the classifieds? No. If they disclose their game and the buyer doesn’t care because he wants plinkers on the cheap, that’s fine. I’m not saying everyone does it but I thought I would just pass this along because it isn’t right.
 
I’ve never bought or sold pellets in the classifieds for this reason. You just don’t know what you’re getting. Unless you can be sure the fins are sealed, it’s not worth it. If I buy from a reputable dealer, and I open a tin and a large amount are damaged, I’m calling the dealer to complain. 9 times out of 10 a new tin is on its way to me free of charge. That’s worth more to me than saving a couple bucks in the classifieds.
 
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Yeah, I’m in sorting mode currently, and wasn’t looking forward to doing the MRD’s as last summer I ended up with four head sizes, and the weights never allowed me a full tin, but instead, a bunch of tins, some with 25 of one weight, another time with 40 of another, etc. so I’ve got all these different weights. And these were bought thru the classifieds.

I’m sorting MRD’s from Trenier and LP and behold, I have three head size types and the 5.54’(middle tin)are dominating the bulk of it. Way more consistent than last summers batch

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I can see that happening. I too noticed this "missing" sizes thing recently in JSB .30 cal 50.15 grain pellets, but from new looking factory tins bought online from a store. The tins were, for the most part, all even in weight dispersion too; except for a couple of the middle weight groupings were lacking in the same volume as the nearby piles. It was opposite of what I was seeing when sorting three years ago, where a lot of the weights we're concentrated in the middle and then dispersed smaller each way from there. It looks like the factory probably weight sorts them now to sell as a sorted lot to someone like say FoX to be rebranded.

Another thing I noticed... When the JSB .30 Hades first came on the market the pellets in those tins were all within 0.20 of a grain of each other. So close that sorting by my normal 0.10 grain grouping was not needed there. Those new pellets were consistent. However now those tins are just as mixed up in weight as the JSB 50.15 grainers are. Whether this has to do with the machines, the dies, or from selling a particular weight class in bulk to someone, only they know. But, we may be onto something here...
 
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Been thinking about this for a while and finally decided to say something about it. A while ago I decided if I needed some pellets, I would try to buy from a AGN member first. Then buy from a vendor if I couldn’t find what I needed. I did this for a couple months and noticed a trend. Not in all cases but in enough to make me stop buying here. I was getting other guys scraps. The ones that they didn’t want. Repackaged and resold. When you get your tins and they are incredibly packaged and in pristine tins but every pellet in 3 tins has the exact amount of damage to them, it raises an eyebrow. When you get the MRD, King Heavy, or the 30cal pellets that have to be weighed but ironically a weight class is missing from the batch you bought, it raises another eyebrow. So is there a problem with guys selling their scraps in the classifieds? No. If they disclose their game and the buyer doesn’t care because he wants plinkers on the cheap, that’s fine. I’m not saying everyone does it but I thought I would just pass this along because it isn’t right.




i am glad that you made this post, as i have been on the verge of making the same , just didn't get around to it yet, my problem is that i buy things & do not get around to really checking out the items purchased for weeks or months later, (work 2 jobs in the construction season) & i purch from 3 different forums, so i have no clue whom i receieved from, but about a year or so ago, i purchased 5 or 6 tins of 22 cal jsb's , & just recently opened 2 different tins & over half of them have really bent , damaged skirts , & NO damage to the tins, i really don't know who to blame but myself, but from here on out i will taking a marker & writing the date purchased & who sold them, BTW , last week i purchased 5 tins from a dealer & have not check them either, but will tomorrow..
 
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I bought a brand new Dewalt impact driver with the cable and anti theft thing securely around the box. The chick at checkout used her tool to take it off. When I got home I opened the box and the impact driver looked like it was drug behind a truck for 5 miles. If guys can get around a security cable, do you think a red or white piece of tape is going to mystify someone? If you are a pellet strainer then reseller at a couple bucks under retail, the gig is up. I am not above finding humor in people getting in over their heads with complex airguns or motorcycles that are too wicked for them. The dealer or person is just selling them what they want. But reselling pellets that you picked through and not disclosing what you did, that’s just sh!tty.
 
I recently sold 5 tins of the old JSB 15.89gr, I had to open a single tin to verify the weight as it was NOT listed anywhere on the tins. These came from a reputable dealer too. There was a single, small dent on one of the 5 tins sold as I received it that way from the vendor, yet I fully disclosed that all other tins were never opened and still had the red tape around the rim.
They were the old grey printed tins with red font, pull apart lids (hate those). I had bought them for use in a Crown .22 that liked that grain pellet, but ended up selling that rifle, so I had no use for them.
I for one, would not sell picked through tins, that just isn't right. In such a community as this, it takes a minor issue to give one a bad name. Maybe some just don't care, hopefully others do.
It took a long time to sell them, now I understand why.
 
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But reselling pellets that you picked through and not disclosing what you did, that’s just sh!tty.
I agree that it's pretty dishonest.

I also think somebody willing to sort and sell off the culls is way more dedicated than myself. (Dedicated to being crooked too). I sorted 5 or 6 tin's (200count) ONCE. Yeah, the ones I deemed to be without imperfections and weighing all the same shot slightly better. But man o man the time versus benefit ratio just ain't there. Much easier to determine which batches shoot better and reserve those for matches and use the junk batches for practice.

I spend an awful lot of time on this silly airgun thing, but sorting a large enough volume of pellets to provide enough culls to sell is just plain crazy. And I compete and still feel that way.

Ive only bought previously owned pellets from the classifieds once. Bought em from @Dairyboy. He's notorious for buying and trying and then selling and moving on. He was getting out of .177 completely and sold me something like 30 tins of the same pellet, at a dirt cheap price. They shoot great. Actually used them to shoot a 47/48 at a ft match. Anyway, that's the only time I've ever been interested in buying pellets on the classifieds, primarily because I'm usually very suspicious of the situation.
 
No doubt this happens but it shouldn’t be stated in a way that makes it seem like it is always the case. I have bought and sold a lot of pellets listed on this terrific platform with never an issue. And I assure you, the pellets I have sold were in the exact same condition as when I purchased them from a dealer.

My experience with AGN members is that 95% are terrific guys passionate about our hobby that are legit and honest and that wish to treat others as they wish to be treated themselves.

I’m sorry if a few of you have experienced some not-so-good exchanges, but most people on this forum are great people, not bad apples intentionally misrepresenting their items.
 
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Oh chit, I better open up and check all of my pellets then! In years past, I would buy a batch of 5 or 10 tins and it would take me months if not years to ever get to using them. This last year, I've stocked up on a lot more pellets b/c I allowed 0.22's back in my life and also added the Hades in 0.22 and 0.25 to the mix. Most of those purchases/trades came off the Classifieds and have been fine. Any dented tins/pellets were minor and I attributed it to the carrier, not the seller/trader.

Who would think that people take the time to shift through pellets to repackage and sell their castoffs???
 
Oh chit, I better open up and check all of my pellets then! In years past, I would buy a batch of 5 or 10 tins and it would take me months if not years to ever get to using them. This last year, I've stocked up on a lot more pellets b/c I allowed 0.22's back in my life and also added the Hades in 0.22 and 0.25 to the mix. Most of those purchases/trades came off the Classifieds and have been fine. Any dented tins/pellets were minor and I attributed it to the carrier, not the seller/trader.

Who would think that people take the time to shift through pellets to repackage and sell their castoffs???
Right, just like we traded those hades for the 33.95s. I never once didn't trust you, you've been around the forum for awhile and I take people here for their word. I can usually smell a fish. A couple tins had damage but I opened them and only had a couple dented skirts. Those 33.95s are tanks anyhow.

Hopefully the hades arrived fine. However, I have noticed even from the factory with a seal, the hades will have some warped skirts especially on the 22s.
 
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At least we know we can trust Yen. Pulled a 10 round mag worth of 33.95 MK2 straight out of the tin and shot off shoulder with rolled up towel for a front rest. 50 yard group at 835 fps.

the one on the right I deliberately pulled to get the last chunk of red bullseye. The other 9 in the one big hole. The gun is sighted for 30.86 Cudas but I'll take both of them in basically the same POA/POI
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At least we know we can trust Yen. Pulled a 10 round mag worth of 33.95 MK2 straight out of the tin and shot off shoulder with rolled up towel for a front rest. 50 yard group at 835 fps.

the one on the right I deliberately pulled to get the last chunk of red bullseye. The other 9 in the one big hole. The gun is sighted for 30.86 Cudas but I'll take both of them in basically the same POA/POI
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LOL based on the above, I can assure anyone and everyone that trades pellets with me will get groups this good or better regardless of whatever rifles you own, guaranteed!
 
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LOL based on the above, I can assure anyone and everyone that trades pellets with me will get groups this good or better regardless of whatever rifles you own, guaranteed!
With that guarantee, I'll be buying your pellets... now, is that a 'double your money back' guarantee? :ROFLMAO:

It is crazy that some folks would sort through and sell their rejects. Takes a special type of asshat to do such. I'm not even motivated enough to sort pellets, let alone sort and sell the rejects!
 
With that guarantee, I'll be buying your pellets... now, is that a 'double your money back' guarantee? :ROFLMAO:

It is crazy that some folks would sort through and sell their rejects. Takes a special type of asshat to do such. I'm not even motivated enough to sort pellets, let alone sort and sell the rejects!
If a guy can sell an impact mk2 that has a lot of damaged parts because he beat the barrel in(he was clueless of the indexing notch at the transfer port) and have no guilt and turns around and tells the buyer that it was in perfect condition when it left him, it would not surprise me for someone to sell Ammo that the choice weights and head sizes have already been pulled. They are sorting them because they are sorters anyway, and probably don’t want to keep what I would call “plink” Ammo. I actually save my plink Ammo for when friends come over to shoot my PCP’s, and save the good ones for my own target practice.

I only buy pre sorted Ammo from one fella here on AGN, because I trust him and he only sells me Ammo that he knows the head sizes and weights will shoot well out of my gun(because I had purchased the gun from him, lol)
 
If a guy can sell an impact mk2 that has a lot of damaged parts because he beat the barrel in(he was clueless of the indexing notch at the transfer port) and have no guilt and turns around and tells the buyer that it was in perfect condition when it left him, it would not surprise me for someone to sell Ammo that the choice weights and head sizes have already been pulled. They are sorting them because they are sorters anyway, and probably don’t want to keep what I would call “plink” Ammo. I actually save my plink Ammo for when friends come over to shoot my PCP’s, and save the good ones for my own target practice.

I only buy pre sorted Ammo from one fella here on AGN, because I trust him and he only sells me Ammo that he knows the head sizes and weights will shoot well out of my gun(because I had purchased the gun from him, lol)
yep, I've no doubt such asshats exist, just crazy to think about. Our community is small enough that word travels fast and it only takes one raw deal like that to blacklist someone, at least internally.

To be honest, I'd never thought about the need for caution when buying pellets that I've seen thrown in baggies. Just never crossed my mind, but I can assure you... I'll be thinking about it now!
 
With that guarantee, I'll be buying your pellets... now, is that a 'double your money back' guarantee? :ROFLMAO:

It is crazy that some folks would sort through and sell their rejects. Takes a special type of asshat to do such. I'm not even motivated enough to sort pellets, let alone sort and sell the rejects!
And you are what the guys that do it would call a customer. If you do the math you would quickly understand the benefits. I started this topic because I like 99% of you guys and don’t like seeing anyone get taken advantage of. A guy like Yen, I’d buy Umarex Gauntlet off him and trust it. But overall, just check them when you buy them and if they are the big three or four that need weight sorted if you’re shooting at 100, you might want to weigh them. If you shoot close like Boostcreep, there’s more wiggle room if there’s a weight gap in your tin.
 
I recently sold 5 tins of the old JSB 15.89gr, I had to open a single tin to verify the weight as it was NOT listed anywhere on the tins. These came from a reputable dealer too. There was a single, small dent on one of the 5 tins sold as I received it that way from the vendor, yet I fully disclosed that all other tins were never opened and still had the red tape around the rim.
They were the old grey printed tins with red font, pull apart lids (hate those). I had bought them for use in a Crown .22 that liked that grain pellet, but ended up selling that rifle, so I had no use for them.
I for one, would not sell picked through tins, that just isn't right. In such a community as this, it takes a minor issue to give one a bad name. Maybe some just don't care, hopefully others do.
It took a long time to sell them, now I understand why.
I had my eye on those pellets in your add every time you relisted them. I wanted them but was too gunshy. Glad you finally sold them.
 
And you are what the guys that do it would call a customer. If you do the math you would quickly understand the benefits. I started this topic because I like 99% of you guys and don’t like seeing anyone get taken advantage of. A guy like Yen, I’d buy Umarex Gauntlet off him and trust it. But overall, just check them when you buy them and if they are the big three or four that need weight sorted if you’re shooting at 100, you might want to weigh them. If you shoot close like Boostcreep, there’s more wiggle room if there’s a weight gap in your tin.
That's high praise considering I don't even know what an Umarex Gauntlet is! But I do very much appreciate the kind words...thank you!