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    Wow……helluva start with some very nice springers. You will do very well adding the TX200 and HW97K to that collection also. Both are superb air rifles with a long celebrated pedigree.

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    Vortex Crossfire II 4-12×50 AO BDC with Hawke Match Mounts 2 piece high 1" is on my invoice.  I just went with their recommendations.  

    Also ordered a few cans of H&N Field Target Trophy 

    Cool beans! I guess you would need high mounts with a 50mm objective. It sounds like a good combination you have chosen. I also shoot the H&N FTT's in my 97 with excellent results. I have tried several different pellet brands and a couple of different head sizes in the H&N's. I have found that the 5.53 head size gives the most consistent/repeatable accuracy through my barrel. The 5.54's do really well……..but I've kinda settled on the 5.53 as they seem a bit more consistent. I'm sure you will love it………congratulations.

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    I just ordered a .22 HW97K with a Moderator and with a Vortex Crossfire scope through Airguns of AZ.  (Should I have gotten a better scope?)

    Thanks for all the help people!!!  I probably should of done this research before I bought the Gamo.

    Special Thanks to the local GA members that offered let me try out their Airguns before I purchased anything, but I'm an impulse buyer.  LOL.

    I'm in Johns Creek/Alpharetta.

    I will say that you have done quite well with that purchase! I have an HW97K in .22 with a Vortex CrossfireII 6-18 X 44 mounted atop. I have been more than pleased with the combination. The 97 is an exceptionally accurate rifle and very well built. What power and objective lens size did you get and what mounts/rings? Below is a pic of what mine looks like……

     

    BTW……...it will put squirrels down quickly and with ease so long as you do your job with the shot placement.

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    No experience with a D350. But plenty with a D34 and it is quite a bargain for a German springer, as has already been mentioned. They are very easy to maintenance and tune any way you like as well…….very good accuracy too.

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    Jimmy…..you have been given several very good options by others here. The Weihrauch's, Walther, Air Arms……all excellent and can't go wrong with these springers. They are all high end and top quality. But if possible I would take intenseaty22's offer to shoot some of them that he owns. Y'all are both in the Atlanta area and it would be very beneficial for you in the decision making process. He also would be able to give you pros/cons……..

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    Gave him an ear full did ya? Good shooting!

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    nervoustrig

    Clean both the male and female threads with a solvent to remove any oil.  Apply blue thread locker to the screws and install them and let them cure for 24 hours before shooting.

    This is exactly to a "T" what I had to do with my 97K. It did the trick. 

    Edenwildfood……..have you tried this yet? Just curious as to whether or not you have cured this issue you are having.

     

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    A PCP rifle will be easier to shoot well that is true.  The converse is also true.  A spring rifle will make a shooter out of you if you let it.

     

    Absolutely true and very well said sir. A quality springer in the right hands will produce the same accuracy that can be had with a pcp. The limitation will be range and FPE on target. But out to 40 yards and even a bit further………. a springer can be very consistent and effective. But you have to put in the work. In the end……..as oldspook said above…….a spring rifle will make a shooter out of you if you let it.

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    Yep……you have a lot of company. 

    I once split the hood on an F-150 wide open like a sardine can with a .35 Remington centerfire. Then…..walked around to the other side and had a rather large exit hole on the drivers side fender. Don't ask how that happened………lets just say it was a mishap not much unlike your own. Be happy it was just a window frame. 😁

     

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    Welcome and happy to have you here. This is a very good place with a lot of good folks that can help you along the way.

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    I'm glad to hear that you got your spring and have it all back together again. You should let Diana know your observation regarding the T06. Some companies take customer feed back like that and use it for product improvement. You never know….

    The trigger cross pins in my 34 have deep grooves worn in them just like yours. I have wondered if or when that will ever pose a problem. 

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    Rooster..that is flat out amazing! From the looks of your scope setting you appear to be set between 9 and 10X. AMAZING !! NO !! Better than amazing!!

     

    Thanks Wayne. I'm a bit surprised with it myself sometimes. The rifle just flat shoots. I have learned that if it is not shooting with this type of consistent accuracy, it's NOT the rifle. It's either me or it doesn't like the pellets I'm feeding it. And yes I do keep my scope set at 10x magnification most of the time. Unless, I am shooting at a small target at longer range. Then I will turn it to 12x or so……thats about it. 

    What's the firing behavior with this rifle?  It must be fairly pleasant at 14.5 FPE ?

    Higher magnification really helps with accuracy precision.  I guess 10X works pretty well at 30 yes? 

    FYI….I did some chronograph testing with the 5.54mm head FTT pellets you sent me for testing in my Sig. They fit very snug. Noticeably tighter than the 5.53mm FTT. I fired 5 shots for an average of 840 fps. Right at factory specification of 23 FPE. I actually weighed them at 14.7 gr. I may do some accuracy testing either Tuesday or Wednesday.

    The firing cycle is really sweet. It has a very snappy, abrupt "thud" to it. But, a smoothness that doesn't disturb your sight picture or follow through…this is key to the accuracy. I don't know how much sense that makes. Kinda hard to describe it. It's best felt. And as far as the FPE being at around 14.5….that is plenty. I used to think other wise, until I learned better. What you want is accuracy, accuracy, accuracy…..all day long. 

    As far as the magnification, I pretty much use 10x all the time. I don't know why…..I just do. It kinda works for me, but everyone is different. I will at times use 12-14x for really small targets at further ranges. This all just my preference……nothing more. 

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    Flintstone

    Say Rooster, what does "Kurze Luftgewehr" mean?

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    Say Rooster, what does "Kurze Luftgewehr" mean?

    I believe it translates into "short air rifle"

    Wayne is correct! The German word for short is kurz. That is actually where the K in the designation HW97comes from. It's a carbine, or short " kurz " rifle. And luftgewehr is air rifle.

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    whyzee

    Why lubricate pellets in a spring gun?

    i always thought that was a no-no

    Oh yes…you can lube pellets used in a springer. You would lube pellets used in a springer for the same reasons that you would lube them for a pcp. Only difference is that when lubing pellets for use in a springer, you should pay attention to the amount of petroleum product that is in the lube and how much you lube the pellets with a petroleum based lube.

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    Satisfyin' ain't it! Them springers are supposed to be hard to shoot well. You make it look easy Rooster.

    Thanks Tony……..YES it is satisfying!! A "full power" springer can sometimes be a handful when trying to get good consistent accuracy. They can be very frustrating at times. I know this first hand. But don't be afraid and shy away from them thinking that you just can't shoot them accurately. You can! You just have to take the time and effort to learn them. This 97 has been massaged a little bit which makes it a bit smoother to shoot. But, the rifle is just plain accurate. And very easy to shoot so.

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    Rooster..that is flat out amazing! From the looks of your scope setting you appear to be set between 9 and 10X. AMAZING !! NO !! Better than amazing!!

     

    Thanks Wayne. I'm a bit surprised with it myself sometimes. The rifle just flat shoots. I have learned that if it is not shooting with this type of consistent accuracy, it's NOT the rifle. It's either me or it doesn't like the pellets I'm feeding it. And yes I do keep my scope set at 10x magnification most of the time. Unless, I am shooting at a small target at longer range. Then I will turn it to 12x or so……thats about it. 

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    Excellent shooting and really beautiful terrain there……..great pictures.

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    Nice job sir…..👍

    Fella didn't even get to finish his breakfast. It doesn't look like any expansion took place with the Hades pellet. Just the expected deformation from hitting bone. Good clean kill though.

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    The proper sized bits are very important as to not damage various fasteners for sure. I have a couple of gun smithing bit sets that I have had for several years. But, I have only used very few of them. I would say, 6-8 different bits out of 50-75 of them. But….to make sure you get/have what you need, it is pretty much necessary to purchase a kit like that. It's very good to have if your ever gonna work on your guns at all. 

    An ill fitting screw driver can make a mess of a screw head.

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    Very nice and good shooting 👍

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