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    It's the post right above this from JungleShooter.

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    Unless I am missing something this reference should be a 'sticky' at the front of this section. I downloaded the Pdf for short scopes. Scanning the far right column I quickly eliminated scopes that were over 10.5" inches in length. The Pdf has two major divisions. Do you want FFP or SFP. In case you need a refresher on those distinctions its included in the preface. Next I checked price to see if it fit my budget and then the warranty for that scope. Then you can compare  eye box, eye relief, style recticle, etc., etc, There were some scopes on their I have never heard of before that earned some consideration. There are 3 different Pdfs. One is for 'short' scopes. The other two allow the same info but by magnification. I didn't look at those as the most important things to me are length, cost, and warranty. The URL is included in the post..150 Scopes Comparison….etc.

    Pick out your top 3 and look online farther. Read and watch the reviews. What's the reputation on the glass? Is it waterproof or water resistant. There is a technical difference. Maybe it's important if it works on a springer… and on and on.

    I book marked it and printed the Pdf.

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    Thanks to all responders. Might suggest that you bookmark the info about 150 scopes as you may want to reference it for future purchase considerations.

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    Does somebody in the US, besides the beta testers, already have the guns? The poster above talks about a second batch. If that's the case how many and where did the first batch go?

    I had an Impact and other FXs and sold them. The Impact fired with the safety on. FX makes some of the best rifles out there. But IMHO they are fussy. Adjusting, changing plenums, etc., is not part of the hobby I enjoy. I never have to fuss with my Veteran shorty of my Layla 2. Hope the Leshy 2 will be typical Russian built.

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    Kayaker…Your suggestion just might be the ticket. I have looked at that rifle before but went to a higher priced rifle. Now, does that mean I'll have to get rid of one of my other rifles. lol The others will get lots of use but when it rains bring out the Fral. I am looking at the 'marine' version. Wonder what makes it silver? Is it really some grade of polished stainless?

    I am relieved to hear from others that theirs get lots of rain use and if wiped and oiled there seems to be no problems. Gee! Another reason to get another rifle.

    I see it's adjustable. Can you really get the FPS down far enough that I am not going to put holes in the metal barns? Only somebody who has played with it would know.

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    I am doing the same thing with a local dairy farmer. I have the ATN X sight and it's one of the early ones and it's freaking heavy and does the job but not nearly as nice as yours. When I look at your 'barn rafters' they look a lot like mine. However, when the Startlings come in to roost they disappear behind something in the roof. I can't get into that area to inspect what's happening because the farmer says there's a mean bull in with the Heiffers supposedly doing what bulls do. I am not a farmer type person but most of the farmers have said more farmers are killed by bulls than anything else. Also as a side. If you are pesting at a farm with cows and calves, they are supposed to be as dangerous as a bull. Protecting their young.

    I am having my best luck shooting the Starlings as they sit on a farmer's guy wire, just before they fly into the barn. He says what I am doing has definitely made a difference but there are still a lot of birds.

    I am going to send your URL to my farmer friend and maybe he'll let me control the lights on a shooting night. One shot and they all fly out into the dark through an opening that has a night light on it.

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    Brian set my .25 up so it won't punch holes in barns when I miss, which is often. Makes a loud thump but only bends the metal.

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    I am shooting mine on the "LOW" setting and the lowest hammer spring tension. They move about 500 FPS and DO NOT puch holes in the barns. I zero for 25, I don't need it for 50 yds the barns arent that big, and it's hole in hole ON the low settings I described. Note there is a setting lower than .177 – .22. It just says low. The thing is SUPER quiet on those low settings.

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    I've had one of those kits for about 20 years. Price was a little more then but I can't count the number of times I was repairing something in the house or on the car that having one of these kits saved a trip to town. I don't know for sure but that 1 O-ring from Home Depot probably cost one quarter as much as the entire kit.

    There are many different grades of O-rings and they are made out of different compounds which is determined by the fluids they are working against. All that's academic for what we do. For a leaky garden hose, a fill probe, or magzine, etc., those in the kit weould be just fine. I probably wouldn't get them and use them for an O-ring replacement for the innards of a PCP.

    I used to go to a place called O-ring supply and carry the old one in with me. They'd measure it and then ask how many I wanted. Can't remember any I needed that cost more than 25 cents. They would usually throw an extra in as they are so inexpensive when they are bought by the hundreds.

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    Another Communication with Michael…It's been One week and one day since FXUSA told me that a technician was currently working on my rifle.. I have heard nothing from them since. Are your thoughts changing on the validity of my complaint? Even though they are a sponsor I think both the good and the bad need publishing. A little snotty here but one needs a 3 year warranty with FX  to make sure there is enough time for the warranty to be honored and the product returned in working condition.

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    I experienced the same problem with UA and FX. 1st it was the Dreamline bullpup with carbon fibre bottle that was shown at the show you reference. I left a deposit with UA for 3 months waiting for that. UA was doing all they could to get the ordered rifle but always had to wait a shipment order from FX before they could gauge when the rifle would appear. I wanted a .25 and the first batch that came in were all .22. Somebody had to know that would be the case.

    I gave up on the bullpup and wanted that Dreamlite Tactical Compact with folding stock. Also demonstrated at the same show. UA finally sent me a Tactical with a 600mm barrell. Totally angered by FXs repeated advertising with no product, I took the Tactical to a gunsmith and had the barrell shortened to 'almost' compact length.' For about $250. If I want the full compact I'll have to buy a folding stock adapter for $130. Don't do what I did. The gun shoots wonderfully with the shortened barrell but double check, even that doesn't help sometimes, and wait for what you want actually being in stock, or choose a different product. UA will take your deposit and it will get you on a list, but UA is as much in the dark about product supply as we are. It ain't UA folks. It's FX.

    Of interest maybe, I have owned 5 different FX guns and still think they are the best gun when you can get what you want.

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    Not done with mine yet. Got the Dreamlite tactical .22 (wanted the compact) which has picatinny and AR style tube stock WITH carbon fibre bottle. That's all at the listed prices. Came with a 600mm barrel. Took it to a gunsmith, as FXUSA or UA stated there is not a shorter barrel available now and don't know when it will be available (typical FX marketing), and having the smith take the barrel down to compact length. Has to be a little longer so the shroud doesn't interfere with the carbon fibre bottle which is essential for me. I may want the folding stock but don't know why as I am not going to back pack it. I called UA and they said the adapter to make a folding stock was $130.00. Those on the net are way over that price but are made to work with the tube that's in a regular AR. We don't need that capability with a PCP.

    Just saw a lengthy blog done on the Dreamlite by Pyramid Air. It was enlightening. Don't know if it's accurate or not, either FX USA or UA told me the alpha letters on the power wheel are ".5". So 1 plus A would equal a 1.5 change in power where 2 would be .5 more…and so on. I know I didn't get that in a dream so somebody chime in if they know differently.

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    Almost any of those birds, plus the collared doves, I think learn quickly. I've had all of those eating off a farmers feed for his dairy cows. I've hunted from a full blind, a camo net in with the cows themselves, and from my truck. It's all on his property so I am not violating state laws. Shooting from the truck, Dodge 4×4, has been the best AFTER they learned to stay away when the blind was up. I am thinking they are thinking I am one of the resident farmers when in the truck. (It's warmer also)

     

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    That helps as I do mostly pesting and paper in the field behind my house.

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    I also have a couple of permissions at Dairy farms. Unlike your experience I had to resort to a shotgun and get the pigeons as they flew out of a shed where they roost. Really spooky for some reason. The pigeon poo was shin deep right under their roosting spot.

    However my permission is just like yours with the Starlings. Right now there are three sheds with Starlings roosting everywhere. There are like white chalk lines of feces below all the rafters. I too will use night vision but I have seen some of the videos where the shooter was using just a red LED. It didn't seem to spook the birds but green did. I thought I saw that white was even better than green. I can easily mount the LED light on the barrel and use the regular scope which would make it much easier and lighter. However, don't know if the red LED will spook them. It's too darn cold out there now so it might be awhile before I go test the red LED. Any info about the red LED come your way?

    The 12 FPE and not putting holes in the roof will allow you to keep the permission longer. I have heard good things about the new JSb Hades. Might be better than the wadcutter. Maybe you should give them a try.

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    Thanks Marflow.. Gonna go that route. Looks bullet proof.

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    Mine worked great until I broke the second one on my Mutant .25. I was shooting off the bench and was in no hurry to reload. Pappy was extremely supportive and replaced the first one. I just didn't want to bother him again asking for another replacement. It works so much better than the stock set up. You don't have to look for the lever when doing a reload. Two broke on my Mutant . I am not ham fisted. Maybe this 3rd version will last. The cheek plate is nice and is still on the rifle.

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    Plus one on the music. It does detract from watching and enjoying the nice work you are doing. I am old! But watching anything, pig hunting from a helicopter, etc. it's a detracter not an enhancer. Thanks for the videos I watched muted.

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    Somebody mentioned purchasing a carbine version PCP and using it. It caused me to remember a Benjamin Woods Walker in .22 that I had. I tried it in my field on a piece of old metal roofing scrap I had. Even at 10 yards it did not penetrate at all. It always made a dent but I don't think a dent affected the integrity of the scrap. I then mounted a simple LED white torch onto the barrel with rubber bands and soda box wrap (the thin carboard a 12 pack come in) as a shim to get the light pointed where the scope is aimed. This was done to test if indeed the white light would keep the birds from flying out of the barn. I haven't had a chance to try that but at least I have a way to test it. The videos BobO referenced above are super fun to watch. I'll have another pesting job with the farmer as he has about 3 shelters that are covered with feces from Starlings who like to roost in the rafters. Never knew those things made so much noise. The remaining issue, which Nugria may have helped solve, is to slow down my FX WCII or my Veteran Shorty. The Woods Walker is nice but has a limited air supply and an 8 round magazine. WIth the pigeons, about 20 remaining, 24 rounds without reloading and recharging, should be enough. With the size of the cow shelters and the amount of feces in there I'll need the larger air capacity and several FX Dreamline magazines for the FX Dreamlite Tactical Compact with bottle that I am told will be here in a couple of weeks. I'll use that with the white light or go back to my ATN 4-12, tune it down and, I hope, lay waste to those Starlings.

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    Read ther above! Thanks for the help! I was piqued by the video above. Heard the man say using white light ala bright LED blinds the pigeons and thus prevents them from flying out into the night. Bonus! Also said the pigeons can see the infra red thus negating night vision devices. Anything I could find on line about pigeons says they cannot see infrared. I would like nothing better than to strap a white LED torch (for our British neighbors) to the rifle and be able to use the existing scope. I use an ATN Xsight and noticed the video screen does screw up the ability to see clearly when not using the scope. However, the brightness adjustment for the screen is set low so I have not experienced the effects the next day as he described.

    I do have some Polymags I'll try on my targets and see how much my gun(s) like them. Leaning over the hood of the truck I can pretty much count on either my Veteran shorty or my WCII hitting where I want at 75 yds using the JSBs. I'll shoot some at my scrap tin and see what happens. I do need to learn what I need to do to get the FPS adjusted so I can get down to about what BobO says will prevent punch throughs. It may be logical to many but I don't know how to start doing that. Thanks.

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