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    That’s great! I’ve rarely seen LP53’s at reasonable prices as they were at AOA and I doubt if there are many people who have been disappointed with the purchase of an HW45.

    BTW, AOA is at it again. There are several LP3’s for sale and a bunch of Webleys. It sure would be interesting to have seen this collection together before it was sold off.

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    Thanks for that link, Phil and thanks to Steveoo for that amazing writeup.

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    Steveoo, that is amazing and it's really a beauty. Any hints about how you got the extra speed out of it?

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    A bit more background… The Walther LP53 is a break barrel springer made from 1952-1983. The engineering is pretty interesting in that the receiver, piston, spring, et al is contained in the handle under the grips. They're pretty small and light and fun to shoot. As you can imagine with the works the the grip, the piston moving up as the pistol is fired makes for some interesting recoil. Nonetheless one can shoot them reasonably well with practice. The relatively short barrel makes cocking effort high so a hardwood cocking aid is supplied to fit over the front sight so you don't hurt your hand. They're shooting well if you get 400 fps with a 7 gr pellet.

    Here is a picture of my first LP53 which I dearly regret selling:

    This was an older gun with the smooth blued finish. The later guns had a black crinkle enamel finish. This gun was pretty complete having the fitted case, wooden cocking block, 2 extra front sight inserts, only one of the two rear sight inserts, and a brass rod to clear a jammed pellet. An extra would be a front barrel weight. Recently I found a later pistol in excellent condition. It had the later cardboard box but all the extras were there including the barrel weight. It has the black crinkle finish which isn't as nice in my opinion but it is a very sweet pistol.

    Most air gunners probably know this factoid but I'll repeat it incase you don't. When they where shooting the still posters for a James Bond film in the early sixties Sean Connery showed up for the photos but no one remembered to bring the prop gun. Fortunately the photographer was an avid air gunner, went to the trunk (boot) of his car and fetched his Walther LP53. The posters were shot with Sean Connery holding the air pistol.

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    I had been watching Airguns of Arizona’s website over the winter to see what they were getting in. One day the HW50S in .20 caliber just turned up. Kinda expensive compared to what you’d pay at Krale for a .177 or .22 but I jumped at the chance to get one. The sales person said they only had a couple.

    I had an HW50 in .22 that I liked quite a lot. Someone on this forum is a fan of the HW50 in .20 caliber and his posts got me interested. I think the HW50 is a great rifle and the .20 caliber just makes it a bit more special.

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    After posting this topic I went back and did another Google search and found some .20 caliber H&N’s at Straight Shooters.

    Should keep my HW50 fed for a while.

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    Along with an earlier poster I'm a real fan of light, handy air rifles. My current favorite tends to be the rifle I most recently got shooting the way I want. Right now there are two that I reach for most often. First is an HW55T. Gotta love the HW55's but they're so hard to find and when you do they're costly and you don't really know what you're getting. This one came with a more recent large, heavy piston with a correspondingly large heavy spring to drive it. The shot cycle was horrible. After finding original parts and working on it for a while it now shoots really well, just like a 55 should. Next I'll want to get the stock refinished, it's quite faded in some places.

    My next favorite is an HW50 in .20 caliber. This is a new rifle. I just finished a lube tune yesterday and it is really shooting well. Early indications are that it's going to be pretty accurate too but that remains to be tested. The scope mount is a BKL-288 which is adjustable for barrel droop. Really nice. I found a muzzle brake at Pyramyd and it's fine. Wish I could still get the Straight Shooters muzzle brake but I haven't seen it on their website in a while.

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    Waffen-Center Gotha is a great source for these parts. You have to watch out for the shipping costs, though. Last time I wanted to order some parts the shipping cost more than the parts. Here’s a link:

    https://www.waffencenter-gotha.de/shop/    (fixed the link)

    You’ll need to use the translate feature of your browser. 

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    Is it pretty easy to obtain and change the barrel, changing the caliber, of a P1/HW45? I’ve always thought they are great fun to shoot in .22 but reading this thread it might be fun to try it in .177 and I’ve always been interested in trying .20 caliber for this pistol.

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    Is the HW85 the same as the Beeman R8? 

    The R8 is an absolute pleasure to shoot. Relatively small and light, not huge power, very accurate. Quite nice looking too.

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    klentz

    One of my favorite springers in .177.  Folks will criticize it for weight to power ratio but ignore how the weight helps off hand shooting.

     

    Could you give us any more information on that beautiful rifle? Serial number would suggest late sixties? What wood is the stock made of?

    Thanks,

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    I may be missing the point here but it is usually pretty simple to bend the barrel back. I’ve had occasion to do this when the barrel droops so much I can’t get the sights or scope to compensate. I’ve built a jig to hold the barrel as I gently bend it. Am I not understanding your problem?

     

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    I have to say those are some gorgeous HW77's. I've usually stayed with the lighter and less powerful springers R8, HW50 for everyday shooting but you guys have certainly got me interested. Really nice. Thanks.

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    I’m kinda wondering if Hobbyman2007 is on the right track. If there was some (hopefully inexpensive) way you could try to get the gun to fit you better. Maybe a thicker recoil pad like these: https://limbsaver.com/pages/recoil-pads-showcase

    … not that cheap though.

    You made a good choice in getting it tuned. I found the R9 out of the box a bit rough shooting for my taste. As others have said it’s worth giving it a fair chance to earn your affection and it’s always fun to have a selection of guns to shoot to keep things interesting.

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    Really helpful information about Vortek, thanks! I’ve always carefully measured the diameter of the wire, ID and OD of the spring and taken a guess about how many coils I need. Vastly simpler to just specify an fpe.

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    Thanks very much for your help everyone. This is the first question I’ve posed on this site and I really appreciate the helpful responses. The gun I’ve been looking at is the Daystate Huntsman Revere. I works for me in every way but I had my concern about the fill. I’m not worried now and look forward to getting the rifle.

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    Kinda irrelevant to this thread but I have to mention that I was able to get an HW55 piston from JG Airguns. Having looked everywhere I was just thrilled to find it. I bought an HW55T  that looked good but when I shot it I was crestfallen that it just shot so poorly, roughly. Just not what you'd expect from a 55. Got it apart and found someone had replaced the original piston with something far more massive, longer and heavier. I've tried buttoning the piston, different springs but could not get it to shoot anywhere near as good as my other 55's. Probably some of that has to do with my lack of skill but I'm really happy to have another go at it with the correct piston.

     

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    I never got on well with the R9 either. I had one in .20 caliber. The only one of that type I liked less was the R10. I suppose the bottom line is that if you traded a rifle you didn't enjoy shooting for one you do, it's a fine deal for you.

     

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    So many great attributes for such little money. I recommend it to any friend who has a casual interest in air pistols.

     

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    I had an HW45 in .22 caliber. It was really fun to shoot kinda raucous if that makes any sense. I sold it then missed it so much that I bought a Beeman P1 (same gun) to replace it. You can shoot it quite well with good technique. There are some interesting stories around the development of the gun. It was developed for Beeman by Weihrauch. It's alleged that Mrs. Beeman had the idea to use the "hammer" for the latch. Due to some miscommunication Weihrauch's original prototype was not a spring piston gun but an SSP that eventually became the HW75. At any rate, it's fun to shoot, very nice trigger and a satisfying recoil.

     

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