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    There is a really nice Air Arms S510 in the classifieds 

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    I notice the same thing regarding the JSB pellet skirts.  Try a tin of air arms pellets in the same weight. Made by JSB but much more consistent.  I think JSB must use Air Arms proprietary molds or something because the quality seems much better.

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    Based on my experiences owning and tuning the 97, if you have the JSB or Air Arms 8.4 Gr, the H&N FTT 8.64, and the Air Arms 10.3, one of these will do really well.  
     

    Eveb though they are supposed to be both produced by JSB, I find the Air Arms Diablo Field pellets you be more consistent in size and weight.

    Both of mine prefer the Air Arms 8.4

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    I can't comment on the ARGOs.  I had a MIDAS and sent it back.  It wouldn't track right.  I currently own three (3) of the Diamonback Tactical FFP MRAD scopes.  I really like them for the money and have all of them on springers, with no issues over now thousands of shots.

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    Airgun Spares. UK.  The parts shipped within an hour. 

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    Thanks, Dave.  Already ordered new parts.  I appreciate the feedback from all.

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    Don’t worry about it.  I bought one from RAW for my .25 and found it easier to load then straight into the chamber with my thumb.

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    Technically, the bigger tube should give more opportunity for better light transmission 

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    I have four AA rifles among my collection of ten air rifles including much more expensive rifles like a RW and a RAW.  My AA rifles would be the last to go – beautiful, dependable, simple, and deadly accurate.  You cannot go wrong with a 510.  Your grandkids will enjoy it decades from now.

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    I have one of the new Hawke Airmax compacts on a TX200.  Love it.  Also have 4 other traditional 6-24×50 Airmax on other springers that have held up for tens of thousands of rounds.

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    I use the RWS lockdown on all of my springers. I think it is 15 degrees

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    I use the CARM SS loader from the right side, almost exclusively, in my Red Wolf HP, even though I purchased magazines, too.  It is so easy, I love it.  The one I purchased pivots up and down. 

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    I have five spring rifles and four pcps.  Everyone of my spring rifles will shoot sub 1 1/2” ten shot groups at 50 yards and inside a dime at 20 yards.   However, I have a minimum of $1k in each of the springers including tuning and optics – some closer to $1,500, not to mention countless fun hours of trying different pellets and chrono time.  I can also tell you that they are relatively stable.  They may need a click or two from time to time but nothing like being discussed here.  
     

    Like most things in life, the results are directly equivalent to the financial and time investment  inputs.

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    Are you referencing a spring powered gun pcp?

    My springer collection of rifles seem to be much more sensitive to temperature and humidity shifts than do the rifles in my pcp collection.  I think it is more than moisture in the wood, if that is it at all because all of my stocks are pretty well finished and sealed.  I think it had more to do with the impact of temperature shifts applicable to the rifle’s various metal components affecting power plant.  My pcps remain absolutely perfect and once the scope fog clears, are always dead zero.

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    Don’t rule out the Air Arms S510 series.  I recently sold one that was a truly beautiful rifle in Walnut and deadly accurate, with plenty of shots for a hunting rifle.

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    All groups were shot from a bench with sandbags and a light hold.  It is important to realize that these groups were shot immediately following spring kit installation with no break in period.  They absolutely will get better after a few thousand shots. 
     

    My custom tuned TX200 .177 shoots consistent +/- 1” groups at 50 yards with an 8.4 Gr pellet.  My .177 HW97K blue laminate about the same.  My .22 HW97K will shoot +/- 1.5” at 50 with the H&N FTT 14.66 grain 5.53s all day.  Both of the 97s have the Vortek PG3 HO kits installed as well and are producing +/- 15 fpe. The .177 TX200 is a Motorhead tuned rifle shooting the original spring with a custom guide and top hat at just over 12 fpe.  
     

    So, my experience over tens of thousands of shots (while still learning) is that (A) every rifle has a really strong preference for a particular pellet, and the only way to find it is to shoot it, (B) proper lubrication of these rifles using sparing  amounts of premium lubricant is critical to the accuracy and function, (C) it is absolutely true that the more they are shot the more consistently they will perform, (D) the best spring rifles will shoot groups at 50 yards and in that will match those of lower end PCPs but will be never come close to matching the groups of medium to higher end PCPs, meaning that I find consistent 50 yard 1 1/2” and under group sizes with a 12 to 15 fpe spring powered rifle to be really acceptable. 
     

    Most important is to have fun with what ever you shoot.  That is why I continue to continue to acquire so many spring powered rifles.  While I own several amazingly accurate and even “high end” pcps, they actually get boring where, when particularly during inclimate weather and I want to shoot indoors, shooting and tuning the spring rifles to perform to their very best capability  is a constant and fun hobby.  

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    I just love this forum and appreciate the creator, the moderators, and most of all, the members very much.  

    The insight and advice given on the response posts is not only incredibly informative, but very useful.

    This morning, after reviewing all of your posts, I removed the stock and patiently made some much needed trigger adjustments, not any fault of Ken Hick's at SPAW, but because not long after receiving it, I played with the adjustments and messed them up, turning it into a single stage trigger, and had never taken the time to fix it. I now have it nearly perfect with a slight first stage and a very crisp and clean second stage break.

    After reassembling the rifle, I verified that the FPS was exactly what I thought, and an average of about 874, and proceeded to sight the rifle back in using my 18 yard indoor range after having had the stock off.  It was off about an inch.

    I then followed all of your input, and changed the power setting until I reached an average of 908, with an SD of 4, and an ES of 6, for a 10 shot group.

    I then took it out and began to work with it on my outdoor range – at my maximum available distance of 87 yards.  The results were pretty incredible.  

    Image 1 is a target I shot last week while comparing the JSB King Heavies to the new FX Hybrid Slug.  You can see that the average group size was +/- 1.75".

    Image 2 is the last target shot this morning after all of my adjustments, and before I headed off to work.  With the flyer, it is 1.21" C-t-C, without the one flyer, it is about 9/10ths of an inch.  

    Thanks so much, guys.  Your help is truly appreciated.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Ken sold me my gun and tuned it for me.  It shoots really well – just curious to learn more about how it works.    

     

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    How to properly adjust the hammer spring is one of the things I would like to learn.

    Thanks for your interest.

     

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    Thanks for all of the interest and thoughtful replies.  I have gotten pretty good at tuning my spring gun collection.  It looks like I need to study how to tune my RAW beyond just testing different ammunition.

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