Taipan Taipan Slash first tuning report.

jpiperson2002 My regulator is actually at 125 bar, not 120 like I posted... didn't catch that. Randy MACTEN has is 550mm .22 reg at 110 bar I think.

For the .22, the reg at 125 bar *should* be fine and not too low. My 25's are shooting at 47 fpe, so I'm very happy with that.

My problem according to Marek Děngl of Taipan and his Designers, is they think there is a "needle" that might be sticking and it needs to be polished and lubed (he gave video instructions). Also, there is another part that needs to be 'cleaned' and replace an o-ring (again another how to video).

I'm going to try watching those videos tomorrow if I get a chance with support from Randy if needed. We get the same Marek emails.

If the 'fixes' suggested by Taipan solve the problem or not, I'll let everyone know.

Also, it's not like I can't use the gun. I can go 10 12-shot mags without problems. But, you just never know when it will happen.
 
jpiperson2002 My regulator is actually at 125 bar, not 120 like I posted... didn't catch that. Randy MACTEN has is 550mm .22 reg at 110 bar I think.

For the .22, the reg at 125 bar *should* be fine and not too low. My 25's are shooting at 47 fpe, so I'm very happy with that.

My problem according to Marek Děngl of Taipan and his Designers, is they think there is a "needle" that might be sticking and it needs to be polished and lubed (he gave video instructions). Also, there is another part that needs to be 'cleaned' and replace an o-ring (again another how to video).

I'm going to try watching those videos tomorrow if I get a chance with support from Randy if needed. We get the same Marek emails.

If the 'fixes' suggested by Taipan solve the problem or not, I'll let everyone know.

Also, it's not like I can't use the gun. I can go 10 12-shot mags without problems. But, you just never know when it will happen.
Can one just send it back to get serviced under warranty? For example, AoA warranties their Daystate 5 years and one can just send it back even if it is just one single O-ring leak. Not that many would, but they are very good with that.
 
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I've had my Slash Tactical 420mm .22 for only a few days.... but I wanted to give a quick update.

It's a great gun, it shoots very well, accurate, quiet, lightweight, multiple safeties, and a superb trigger! It's also pellet picky, and I'm having some occasional magazine cycling issues that Marek Děngl (Taipan owner/desiger/etc) and Randy, MACTEN, are helping me with. Taipan is really on top of this gun, and ready to help whenever we need it.

Taipan Slash Tactical 420mm .22

Build Quality
- Solid is all I can say! Nothing plastic, the magazines are on the heavier side, but very well made. You just know you have a well made gun when you hold it.

Reg /Shot Count / Shot String - Not too bad, but I expect it to improve as I break the regulator in (see pic)
- Regulator: 120 bar
- Total Shots: 40-42 with FX 25.39
- ES: 23
- SD: 6

Pellets -
- The Slash .22 was designed for the JSB 25's I believe, and JSB/FX/JTS 25's all work great.
- JSB 18's are not good and haven't tried other's yet. I think they are too small for the magazine, plus I get many mag cycle issues. Do not use them.

Safeties
- Slash has a trigger safety and a magazine safety. These are excellent. In addition, we can decock the Slash, so I look at that as a 3rd safety. Well done Taipan!

Trigger - 8.4 oz (see pic)!! I did the average of three trigger pulls twice. I got 8.4 and 8.5 oz respectively. I also adjusted the trigger from one the videos, so this might have improved it.

Accuracy - I got a 0.51" 5-shot group at 50 yards, but then got so excited, I couldn't repeat but still got 0.68-0.74" (see pics) :)

My Problem
- The magazine will occasionally not cycle, and I must decock, then cock it to continue shooting. Maybe every 30-80 shots it will happen.
- Not a good thing and needs to be fixed!
- Marek Děngl of Taipan has Randy MACTEN have been helping to resolve it, but still not resolved. Marek is in contact with Slash Designers and Engineers, and they providing us with videos to lube, smooth or replace parts.
- I fully expect this problem to be resolved, but not nuts about having to take apart the gun (but the videos are well done).
- As far as I know, I'm the only Slash owner with a mag cycling problem.

Marek Děngl / Taipan is in constant contact with Randy and I, and I'm very pleased that the folks who designed and produced the Slash, are the ones directly helping me.

For example, when I emailed Tony at Talon Tunes on last Saturday afternoon about my mag cycling problem, he responded that he forwarded my email to Marek Děngl. In less than 30 minutes, Marek was in contact with me. That's good support!

I have no regrets other than I'm learning more about the internals of the Slash than I wanted :), but pleased with my purchase, Tony and Taipan.

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Wow it’s good to hear they are on top of it!
 
I believe the the indexing happens only when there is a pellet in from of the valve to allow it to bounce back air?
I know .218 do fit very well in the pellet magazine and depending on what I find, may end up going with them.
Not a bad thing as then I could buy the same .218 ammo for 3 airguns .
I know you have bare sighs but can you even tell if it's grouping

jpiperson2002 My regulator is actually at 125 bar, not 120 like I posted... didn't catch that. Randy MACTEN has is 550mm .22 reg at 110 bar I think.

For the .22, the reg at 125 bar *should* be fine and not too low. My 25's are shooting at 47 fpe, so I'm very happy with that.

My problem according to Marek Děngl of Taipan and his Designers, is they think there is a "needle" that might be sticking and it needs to be polished and lubed (he gave video instructions). Also, there is another part that needs to be 'cleaned' and replace an o-ring (again another how to video).

I'm going to try watching those videos tomorrow if I get a chance with support from Randy if needed. We get the same Marek emails.

If the 'fixes' suggested by Taipan solve the problem or not, I'll let everyone know.

Also, it's not like I can't use the gun. I can go 10 12-shot mags without problems. But, you just never know when

Can one just send it back to get serviced under warranty? For example, AoA warranties their Daystate 5 years and one can just send it back even if it is just one single O-ring leak. Not that many would, but they are very good with that.
Unless there’s a fix, shoot once per second. I know it’s not as fun but….
 
Can one just send it back to get serviced under warranty? For example, AoA warranties their Daystate 5 years and one can just send it back even if it is just one single O-ring leak. Not that many would, but they are very good with that.

I wish that were the case, but apparently not right now. The Slash is so new and Tony at Talon Tunes is the only place in the world right now to purchase one.

I don't want to speak for Tony, but when I emailed him about my problem, he immediately forward it to Taipan for resolution. I suspect Tony does not even have all the spare parts, or someone trained on these, but this is just speculation.

On the brighter side, Marek and his designers at Taipan are working directly with me and Randy MACTEN for fixing my problem. The downside is that I must fix it myself with their help.

So, the big questions is, what will happen if I cannot fix it even with all their help and videos? It's under warranty, so what will Tony or Taipan do?

But, I'm not worried. Marek and Taipan seemed to immediately understand and diagnosed the problem with a 'sticking' needle and more lube for o-ring. I expect them to stay with me until the mag cycle problem is fixed. Taipan has a great reputation in the airgun world. When it's all said and done, my Slash may be even 'better' than new :).

Stay tuned :).
 
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Can one just send it back to get serviced under warranty? For example, AoA warranties their Daystate 5 years and one can just send it back even if it is just one single O-ring leak. Not that many would, but they are very good with that.

I was unable to resolve my Slash magazine cycling problem even after many hours with the help of Taipan.

Tony at Talon Tunes apologized for my frustrations and will be sending me a new replacement with his next shipment.

You can't beat that for excellent customer service. Thank you Tony!
 
I was unable to resolve my Slash magazine cycling problem even after many hours with the help of Taipan.

Tony at Talon Tunes apologized for my frustrations and will be sending me a new replacement with his next shipment.

You can't beat that for excellent customer service. Thank you Tony!
Did the mag issue occur while rapidly shooting?
 
I went and did some shooting today with the .22 550mm finally..
I filmed a bit and really enjoyed what I found.
I've updated my original post with the group and further info.
Just over 50 yards.. AEA 25.3 pellets .37" cTc
The picture is AEA 25.3 .22 pellets, but the rest of the story is kind of funny..
See edit to my original post.

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I went and did some shooting today with the .22 550mm finally..
I filmed a bit and really enjoyed what I found.
I've updated my original post with the group and further info.
The picture is AEA 25.3 .22 pellets, but the rest of the story is kind of funny..

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Wow, Randy... Excellent group! I thought my 0.51" was pretty good... But...

You've shown that Taipan hasn't skipped a beat in accuracy with their new semi-auto Slash (that is shooting from a magazine!).
 
Finally had a chance to test some different 0.249 slugs in a 25 cal Slash Tactical with a 420mm barrel.
I had previously tried to test some wider 38g ZAN and 50g Altaros slugs (0.253?) but they were too wide to fir into the Slash' slug magazine.

The 0.249 dia. slugs listed below all fit the Slash 25 cal Slug magazine correctly.
All of the slugs tested also come in additional weights from each company in the same .249 diameter.
I mostly wanted to verify that 0.249 slugs from each company would actually fit into the Slug magazine.

The H&N 0.249 Slugs were fairly tight the first few times they were pushed all the way through the slug magazine.
The slug magazine became slightly easier to load after it was used several times.
The Griffin 0.249 slugs were the smoothest fit. It felt like the Slash Slug magazine was made for them.

It is very important to set slugs, and especially pellets, at the correct depth in their respective magazines.

I press the pellets in past the little retaining balls in the magazine cylinders, and then reverse the magazine and gently push the pellets back until the rear edge of pellet skirt touches the retaining balls. This helps to prevent the tip of the pellets from sliding out the front of the magazine if they were set too deep into the magazine when loaded. With a little practice it's easy to insert a partially filled magazine into the gun so that a pellet aligns correctly with barrel on the first shot. The magazine will not rotate if the rifle is accidentally fired on an empty cylinder. In that case, swing the magazine out and rotate it back in with a pellet in place for firing.

These slugs were tested at 125 Bar, 155 Bar and 185 Bar:
Nielsen 29g, H&N HP II 32g, Griffin 34g, Griffin 42g, H&N Slug Heavy 46g
As were a few lighter pellets so we'd have some slug-vs-pellet shot power and velocity comparisons at the same regulator settings:
H&N Crow Magnum 26.24, Baracuda Hunter Extreme 28.24g, JTS Dead Center 29.32g, and Apolo 33g,

Short summary for the 25 cal Taipan Slash with the 420mm barrel:

At the highest regulator setting of 185 Bar, five different weight Slugs listed as .249 diameter had average maximum shot powers in the ~75fpe to ~80fpe range. Only the heaviest slugs tested (42g & 46g) stayed below 1000f/s at 185 Bar.

Lowering the regulator to the lowest test setting of 125 Bar dropped the average shot power for both pellets and slugs down to between ~55fpe and 60fpe

My main disappointment is that the power band available by adjusting the regulator pressure from 125 Bar to 185 Bar is only about 20 fpe from the minimum to the maximum regulator/power setting. And that the top slug power available in 25 cal with the 420mm barrel (without purchasing the additional 'high-power' kit) is only about 80 fpe. Possibly a few fpe more if you set the regulator above 185 Bar and find a heavier slug. That is a lot of power for a relatively light 25 cal rifle, though somewhat short of the 130 Joules (~95 fpe) top power advertised for this model with the shorter 420mm barrel.

Minor disappointments are the need to remove the rear regulator cover plate to adjust the regulator pressure. It is easy with only 2 small screws. But unnecessary. That plate should be attached to the rear of the regulator and able to be rotated by hand to adjust regulator pressure.

The Slash can be fired with the rear regulator cover removed while you are testing velocities at different regulator pressures. But the small cylindrical adjustment wrench sticks out too far to be left in place while shouldering the rifle.

And for some reason the pressure gauge for the regulator is positioned so it's impossible to shoot comfortably with the pressure gauge in place. Honestly, other companies have figured out how to position a 2nd pressure gauge for the regulator so it doesn't stick out directly at your cheek and jaw when it's installed. This isn't a problem if the rifle is secured in a stand or a clamped in a tripod while testing. But for plain convenience I'd want a permanently installed pressure gauge for the regulator in a reasonable location, and an external adjustment knob for the regulator pressure.

It would be easy enough to 3D print a rear cover for the Slash regulator which has a two or four 2mm pins in it to engage the 4 holes in the rear face of the regulator. If it were a simple round disk it could lay very flat against the regulator, just like the current cover plate, and still act as a power dial. So simple.

And we could use a few more 3D printed pellet insertion disks with prongs of different seating depths (mentioned earlier in the discussion).

Once shot power is plotted for a particular pellet at different regulator pressures then you don't really need the pressure gauge anymore. You could roughly determine the approximate regulator pressure just by checking the velocity of the pellet. But a pressure gauge is considerably more accurate.

The Slash is well made and the semi-auto worked very well when pellets and slugs were set correctly in the magazines.
I would be much happier with it if the power on the 25 cal 420mm barrel Slash could be adjusted between 55fpe and 95 fpe without needing to buy and then install a different power kit. If the power could be externally adjusted between 10 fpe and 85fpe, like a 25 cal Huben K1 can, then the 25 cal Slash with the shorter 420mm barrel would be very serious and direct competitor for the K1. Plus spare Slash magazines are exceptionally fine machined metal and cost less than $70 US each.

I'll post this one for sale in the classifieds by early September so that someone else will have a chance to get a deal and to post some results for accuracy. It's rare to purchase a used airgun which comes with a set of power curves like this for different pellets and settings. It saves a lot of time and effort better used in testing for accuracy. Slug values are listed in red.


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Finally had a chance to test some different 0.249 slugs in a 25 cal Slash Tactical with a 420mm barrel.
I had previously tried to test some wider 38g ZAN and 50g Altaros slugs (0.253?) but they were too wide to fir into the Slash' slug magazine.

The 0.249 dia. slugs listed below all fit the Slash 25 cal Slug magazine correctly.
All of the slugs tested also come in additional weights from each company in the same .249 diameter.
I mostly wanted to verify that 0.249 slugs from each company would actually fit into the Slug magazine.

The H&N 0.249 Slugs were fairly tight the first few times they were pushed all the way through the slug magazine.
The slug magazine became slightly easier to load after it was used several times.
The Griffin 0.249 slugs were the smoothest fit. It felt like the Slash Slug magazine was made for them.

It is very important to set slugs, and especially pellets, at the correct depth in their respective magazines.

I press the pellets in past the little retaining balls in the magazine cylinders, and then reverse the magazine and gently push the pellets back until the rear edge of pellet skirt touches the retaining balls. This helps to prevent the tip of the pellets from sliding out the front of the magazine if they were set too deep into the magazine when loaded. With a little practice it's easy to insert a partially filled magazine into the gun so that a pellet aligns correctly with barrel on the first shot. The magazine will not rotate if the rifle is accidentally fired on an empty cylinder. In that case, swing the magazine out and rotate it back in with a pellet in place for firing.

These slugs were tested at 125 Bar, 155 Bar and 185 Bar:
Nielsen 29g, H&N HP II 32g, Griffin 34g, Griffin 42g, H&N Slug Heavy 46g
As were a few lighter pellets so we'd have some slug-vs-pellet shot power and velocity comparisons at the same regulator settings:
H&N Crow Magnum 26.24, Baracuda Hunter Extreme 28.24g, JTS Dead Center 29.32g, and Apolo 33g,

Short summary for the 25 cal Taipan Slash with the 420mm barrel:

At the highest regulator setting of 185 Bar, five different weight Slugs listed as .249 diameter had average maximum shot powers in the ~75fpe to ~80fpe range. Only the heaviest slugs tested (42g & 46g) stayed below 1000f/s at 185 Bar.

Lowering the regulator to the lowest test setting of 125 Bar dropped the average shot power for both pellets and slugs down to between ~55fpe and 60fpe

My main disappointment is that the power band available by adjusting the regulator pressure from 125 Bar to 185 Bar is only about 20 fpe from the minimum to the maximum regulator/power setting. And that the top slug power available in 25 cal with the 420mm barrel (without purchasing the additional 'high-power' kit) is only about 80 fpe. Possibly a few fpe more if you set the regulator above 185 Bar and find a heavier slug. That is a lot of power for a relatively light 25 cal rifle, though somewhat short of the 130 Joules (~95 fpe) top power advertised for this model with the shorter 420mm barrel.

Minor disappointments are the need to remove the rear regulator cover plate to adjust the regulator pressure. It is easy with only 2 small screws. But unnecessary. That plate should be attached to the rear of the regulator and able to be rotated by hand to adjust regulator pressure.

The Slash can be fired with the rear regulator cover removed while you are testing velocities at different regulator pressures. But the small cylindrical adjustment wrench sticks out too far to be left in place while shouldering the rifle.

And for some reason the pressure gauge for the regulator is positioned so it's impossible to shoot comfortably with the pressure gauge in place. Honestly, other companies have figured out how to position a 2nd pressure gauge for the regulator so it doesn't stick out directly at your cheek and jaw when it's installed. This isn't a problem if the rifle is secured in a stand or a clamped in a tripod while testing. But for plain convenience I'd want a permanently installed pressure gauge for the regulator in a reasonable location, and an external adjustment knob for the regulator pressure.

It would be easy enough to 3D print a rear cover for the Slash regulator which has a two or four 2mm pins in it to engage the 4 holes in the rear face of the regulator. If it were a simple round disk it could lay very flat against the regulator, just like the current cover plate, and still act as a power dial. So simple.

And we could use a few more 3D printed pellet insertion disks with prongs of different seating depths (mentioned earlier in the discussion).

Once shot power is plotted for a particular pellet at different regulator pressures then you don't really need the pressure gauge anymore. You could roughly determine the approximate regulator pressure just by checking the velocity of the pellet. But a pressure gauge is considerably more accurate.

The Slash is well made and the semi-auto worked very well when pellets and slugs were set correctly in the magazines.
I would be much happier with it if the power on the 25 cal 420mm barrel Slash could be adjusted between 55fpe and 95 fpe without needing to buy and then install a different power kit. If the power could be externally adjusted between 10 fpe and 85fpe, like a 25 cal Huben K1 can, then the 25 cal Slash with the shorter 420mm barrel would be very serious and direct competitor for the K1. Plus spare Slash magazines are exceptionally fine machined metal and cost less than $70 US each.

I'll post this one for sale in the classifieds by early September so that someone else will have a chance to get a deal and to post some results for accuracy. It's rare to purchase a used airgun which comes with a set of power curves like this for different pellets and settings. It saves a lot of time and effort better used in testing for accuracy. Slug values are listed in red.


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at that 185 bar setting how many shots did you get before the reg?
 
at that 185 bar setting how many shots did you get before the reg?

While we're waiting for jpiperson2002 to reply, I can tell you this.

My Slash Tactical Compact .22 gets the following:
  • Bar Fill: 290-295
  • Reg Setting: 165 bar
  • Pellets: JSB/FX/AEA 25.39
  • Total good regulated shots: 58
  • ES: 28
  • SD: 5.1
  • FPE: 50.5
I don't shoot slugs, and only have 3 pellets mags, so usually only fill to 270-280 bar or so. Plus, gun is new so I expect the ES and SD to drop once regulator sets in.

This compact has a 420mm barrel, and I don't need a moderator with a 50 fpe gun! It's one of the very few PCP's I've owned without moderator in my suburban backyard.
 
While we're waiting for jpiperson2002 to reply, I can tell you this.

My Slash Tactical Compact .22 gets the following:
  • Bar Fill: 290-295
  • Reg Setting: 165 bar
  • Pellets: JSB/FX/AEA 25.39
  • Total good regulated shots: 58
  • ES: 28
  • SD: 5.1
  • FPE: 50.5
I don't shoot slugs, and only have 3 pellets mags, so usually only fill to 270-280 bar or so. Plus, gun is new so I expect the ES and SD to drop once regulator sets in.

This compact has a 420mm barrel, and I don't need a moderator with a 50 fpe gun! It's one of the very few PCP's I've owned without moderator in my suburban backyard.
not bad but for $2500 gun thats little dissapointment
 
While we're waiting for jpiperson2002 to reply, I can tell you this.

My Slash Tactical Compact .22 gets the following:
  • Bar Fill: 290-295
  • Reg Setting: 165 bar
  • Pellets: JSB/FX/AEA 25.39
  • Total good regulated shots: 58
  • ES: 28
  • SD: 5.1
  • FPE: 50.5
I don't shoot slugs, and only have 3 pellets mags, so usually only fill to 270-280 bar or so. Plus, gun is new so I expect the ES and SD to drop once regulator sets in.

This compact has a 420mm barrel, and I don't need a moderator with a 50 fpe gun! It's one of the very few PCP's I've owned without moderator in my suburban backyard.
huben k1 bullpup is now $1700 since its summer sale going one right now might be better off get that one
 
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huben k1 bullpup is now $1700 since its summer sale going one right now might be better off get that one

I just noticed the price increase on the Slash. It's a brand new gun, and already the price has gone up. Not happy about that :(.

Maybe, it's due to the new tariff's.

The Slash is a great gun, very accurate, and has better safety features than many other semi-auto's. These improvements are very welcomed, but the latest price increase is not.
 
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