I have to ask;When you are shooting for accuracy

are you seeing how accurate your gun shoots ,are how accurate you can shot it?:unsure:
Edit: I had to re evaluate your wording. When I shoot I'm testing my consistency and the guns performance, every time. My original post is below.

Accuracy is hitting your target precision is hitting it exactly where you want every time. I chase precision now, and it's WORK. my fx guns should be on point of aim or touching it. I've almost got my 177 disco there and even my much hates aea hpss will do it within reason.

Attached Pic is a new scope on first zero and retune day. This is my minimum requirement, holes are 177 and I would consider this bare minimum at 30 yards for a squirrel gun. No, I don't consider this good enough to brag about but it's realistic.

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Precision,to me is all pellets hitting the same hole.Many guns are not capable of that.So you can only shoot as good as the gun shoots.If the gun can shoot with precision then any misses are because of you,Did I answer my own question?
That is a reason many use all the supports they can ,like front and back rests,I do not believe in back rests as that takes all or most of the human factor out of it.
 
first I rest and brace the gun and myself and then it's checking for spread, in case I don't have the speed correct for the pellet.. this is on the gun and pellet and turn.. it's on the gun and ammo..
then for me it's like you shooting out in the field..I just rest on a fencepost or tree or deck railing.. that accuracy is on me.
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Normally I’m shooting to see what the weapon can do. This would be from a bench from steadiest rest possible. If I’m practicing to improve my own skills (which I do often) I always shoot free hand or off hand , from no bench is what I mean, and I practice from multiple stances just to sort of maintain my own personal shooting skills. I use a paper type target when shooting to see what the weapon is capable of. I have a homemade frame to hold 3 eight inch steel gong type targets to shoot at when I shoot free hand for practice.
 
Normally I’m shooting to see what the weapon can do. This would be from a bench from steadiest rest possible. If I’m practicing to improve my own skills (which I do often) I always shoot free hand or off hand , from no bench is what I mean, and I practice from multiple stances just to sort of maintain my own personal shooting skills. I use a paper type target when shooting to see what the weapon is capable of. I have a homemade frame to hold 3 eight inch steel gong type targets to shoot at when I shoot free hand for practice.
I made a gong with a hole in it smaller than a turkey head with a hardened bar behind the hole that makes a totally different musical note of you hit it. It's enough to remain fun and not change paper and still know you're doing what you need of you want to head shot a turkey or most rodents above a chipmunk or mouse(works for body shots on those). Otherwise I shoot paper indoors for fun in the shop building before I work 5 days a week to keep the guns moving and my familiarity up.
 
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Edit: I had to re evaluate your wording. When I shoot I'm testing my consistency and the guns performance, every time. My original post is below.

Accuracy is hitting your target precision is hitting it exactly where you want every time. I chase precision now, and it's WORK. my fx guns should be on point of aim or touching it. I've almost got my 177 disco there and even my much hates aea hpss will do it within reason.

Attached Pic is a new scope on first zero and retune day. This is my minimum requirement, holes are 177 and I would consider this bare minimum at 30 yards for a squirrel gun. No, I don't consider this good enough to brag about but it's realistic.

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This takes "going postal" to a practical level. ;)
 
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Both. Once you have accurate equipment that shoots consistent, it comes down to the shooter and how well you can hold it.
I've been fighting cant on 2 guns in the worst way(my bad habit) . It's the guns that don't have ar buffer tube stocks that I can rotate for preference. I'm the guy with the crazy adjustable butt pad on my sporting clays guns 😅
 
Precision,to me is all pellets hitting the same hole.Many guns are not capable of that.So you can only shoot as good as the gun shoots.If the gun can shoot with precision then any misses are because of you,Did I answer my own question?
That is a reason many use all the supports they can ,like front and back rests,I do not believe in back rests as that takes all or most of the human factor out of it.
I use a bipod and rear bag to sight in my guns then I use a tree or post if one is available and my shoulder. The bench tests the guns accuracy the other including free hand is mine. Airguns can translate accuracy to any gun in my opinion as the mechanics and techniques are the same.
 
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A good Bipod is the answer to cant.
That occurred to me while mowing the lawn, and looking at your time stamp I just sensed your disturbance in the force 😂. I have level bubble on the side of the scope tube now that is helping, it's a tiny vial and the bubbles action is less than ideal but it's better than me.
 
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I shoot sitting, using a stool at a bench or table, a bipod, and NO rear rest, just my right shoulder and left hand supporting the butt.

If my first shot at 50 yards hits clean* inside the 10 ring of an N50 target bull, then that shot is accurate. I do that 24 more times and that is precision, meaning I am skilled, experienced, and knowledgeable enough to adjust my POA to compensate for conditions and each time get a clean hit inside the 10 ring.

I score by - number of clean hits inside the 10 ring divided by 25 bulls.

25 out 25 means I am a "Precision Shooter".

20 to 24 clean hits means I am an "Accurate Shooter".

19 or less means I wasted a day at the range.

* Clean; Pellet hits inside the 10 ring and does NOT touch the inner edge of the ring.

Hit is scored using a Freeland's plug of the same caliber as the pellet being shot.

By "10 Ring" l mean the thick ring.
 
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