I'm new to to 100 yard pellet shooting. What is considered to be a good group size shooting .22 pellets at 100 yards outdoors?
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Pellet Groups at 100 yards
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That metric is highly individual I think. My metric is rodent head shots. A golf ball or better for hi power hunting, if it's just a target gun, each impact better touch another. These are only my opinions and they probably stink. Also this is dependent on your gun, I spent enough money for confidence checks, the weak link is the goober behind the trigger for me.
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When i shoot and go look im either well satisfied or pretty unsatisfied.
So under the unsatisfied category would be disappointingly unacceptable...i guess
So under the unsatisfied category would be disappointingly unacceptable...i guess
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If your plinking i would strive for 1 MOA . If your target shooting or hunting , i would want pellets impacts touching / overlaping .
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That's completely opinion. I have guns I'm happy hitting an 8" gong at 100. It's for pure fun hearing the ding. I need SUB MOA for a benchrest gun. Big bore on deer a few MOA is accurate since you have a larger kill zone. We'd all love to have everything touching but that's simply not possible with everything.
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The NRA established two 100yd smallbore targets that have the 10-ring or X-ring @ 1moa or 1"...depending on the specific target being shot.
Essentially, that set the bar for competition shooting...many yrs ago. Now, groups are typically judged by MOA (measured center to center from the two furthest shots).
Pellets, being slow and draggy, tend to be very difficult to shoot into 1moa @100yds, esp with higher shot counts (3 vs 5 vs 10 shots, etc.).
It is also difficult to measure "one hole" groups (multiple shots), which is why many 100yd smallbore competitions feature 1-shot-per-target for score (this also helps with cheating, eliminating the need for moving backers).
If you want to compare with others, use MOA (or MILs, if you're metric). I usually just write mine down in my log (in inches v yardage, which is an easy conversion to MOA if I want) and just try to get better.
Essentially, that set the bar for competition shooting...many yrs ago. Now, groups are typically judged by MOA (measured center to center from the two furthest shots).
Pellets, being slow and draggy, tend to be very difficult to shoot into 1moa @100yds, esp with higher shot counts (3 vs 5 vs 10 shots, etc.).
It is also difficult to measure "one hole" groups (multiple shots), which is why many 100yd smallbore competitions feature 1-shot-per-target for score (this also helps with cheating, eliminating the need for moving backers).
If you want to compare with others, use MOA (or MILs, if you're metric). I usually just write mine down in my log (in inches v yardage, which is an easy conversion to MOA if I want) and just try to get better.
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I think here and gta forum there that 100y club thread you maybe go look at what members are shooting with all different stuff and gauge a average try to compare to your trys.
I think 4" is passing at gta
I think 4" is passing at gta
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You start with what you can consistently shoot. A 1” group every 10 groups means literally nothing. Once you see what you can consistently shoot, then you start tweaking. There are plenty of let’s say 1” guns that the owners think it’s a 2” gun. It’s because shooting airguns at 100 and beyond and trying to land projectiles on top of each other is an art form. Powder burner? Easy. A kid can do it.
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Repeatable and consistent 1 MOA might be achievable at an indoor range but outdoors in the wind is another thing. It boils down to your ability to reading the wind ??? Pellets move a LOT at 100Y because of their low BC as compared to the higher BC of slugs.
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Slugs move a lot at 100 yards also. Gotta be a wind master no matter what you're shooting when it comes to airguns.
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Ha! Have you been to public rifle ranges? Most of them won't even try to shoot centerfire rifles at 100 yards. Most set their targets at 25 or 50 yards. And even then... shotgun pattern groups.
A few can shoot tighter groups. But 1-MOA or sub-MOA? Pretty rare.
But yeah... taught the right skills... a "kid" can do it. My daughter is one. This is at 300 yards:
To qualify to shoot the e-target range, she had to shoot a 3-inch or less 5-shot group at the 100 yard range. Here's how she did:
That all said... I'm new to air guns, and yeah... 100 yards is TOUGH to shoot a tight group. My first attempt at 100 yards with my brand new Marauder F&T... Humbling! I could see the flight of the pellet (and the effect of wind).
For comparison, here are some of my 100-yard targets with a centerfire rifle (all 5-shot groups):
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To be even more humbled. Shoot one shot in bull #1, then move to bull #2, then #3, #4 and #5 then back to bull #1 and repeat. End up with 5 shots per bull, 25 shots in total, in 20 minutes. Then see if any of your bulls are MOA?
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Yes, and this was my point in another recent post with someone posting great groups at 100 yards. I think it’s much easier to shoot 5 shots at one bull, vs. shooting one shot per bull and rotating.
Not so easy to claim MOA for 25 shots doing it this way.
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A 15.89 at 100 is a big ask. Try some 18.1’s. No public ranges for me. Not into the Walmart range life.Ha! Have you been to public rifle ranges? Most of them won't even try to shoot centerfire rifles at 100 yards. Most set their targets at 25 or 50 yards. And even then... shotgun pattern groups.
A few can shoot tighter groups. But 1-MOA or sub-MOA? Pretty rare.
But yeah... taught the right skills... a "kid" can do it. My daughter is one. This is at 300 yards:
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To qualify to shoot the e-target range, she had to shoot a 3-inch or less 5-shot group at the 100 yard range. Here's how she did:
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That all said... I'm new to air guns, and yeah... 100 yards is TOUGH to shoot a tight group. My first attempt at 100 yards with my brand new Marauder F&T... Humbling! I could see the flight of the pellet (and the effect of wind).
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There is a lot of discussion here about one MOA accuracy at 100 yards. I wonder, how many of those respondents consistently shoot 1" groups at 100 yards? I'm not a high level air rifle shooter, but I've been shooting firearms and air rifles a long time and I think I've learned a bit about it. One of those bits, there are very few standard power air rifles that will meet that test, and even fewer shooters who can meet varying conditions well enough to plunk 5 shots consistently into a one inch hole at 100 yards. As Mr. Monk said, I might be wrong, but I doubt it. So, to the OP I say, don't be discouraged if you find the one MOA test at 100 yards very daunting, and be amazed if you meet it.
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I'm shooting 100 at sparrows this morning with 25 kings... The air density is about all I had to account for, the breeze isn't as mean to 25 cal as it is to my 22s and my 177 don't have a chance(tried that yesterday)
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I won't lie, it takes a doing but I shoot 100 at dirt birds every morning before I start working. My fx dreamline 25 will do it well enough. My 22 m3 impact will do it all day long, power level being the variable you brought up. 43 fpe on 25 and 55 fpe with pellets on the 22. Fwiw both pellets weight the same but diff calibers. I couldn't do this with my mrod25 or my disco177 or my aea22.
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Can confirm, i just took the top off another English sparrow at 100y with 380mm 25 dreamline.
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