HPA Compressor Crossroads…?🙈

Gentle thank you for the responses… I have a lot of mulling over (thinking) to do…
I understand your dilemma, but if you have mechanical skills, your cost for a pro compressor can be much less. These compressors are actually used everywhere, but we, as PCP shooters, never look where they are sold in used condition.. Companies that use these write off their replacement cost on their taxes and rarely repair them. They can be purchased at scrap prices if you look long enough for them. They are rarely repaired. Pro compressors are usually very well supported by their manufacturers, so the availability of spare parts is rarely an issue. Now their use can be for different purposes, so it may be necessary to reconfigure them for PCP use, but it is easily done. My point is that there is more than one way to skin this cat. See attached. I bought this 20 years ago for 300 Dutch Gilders. (about $150 at the time) It sat in the corner for many years until I needed one 4 years ago. It cost a few days labor and about $1000 for pro parts.

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I understand your dilemma, but if you have mechanical skills, your cost for a pro compressor can be much less. These compressors are actually used everywhere, but we, as PCP shooters, never look where they are sold in used condition.. Companies that use these write off their replacement cost on their taxes and rarely repair them. They can be purchased at scrap prices if you look long enough for them. They are rarely repaired. Pro compressors are usually very well supported by their manufacturers, so the availability of spare parts is rarely an issue. Now their use can be for different purposes, so it may be necessary to reconfigure them for PCP use, but it is easily done. My point is that there is more than one way to skin this cat. See attached. I bought this 20 years ago for 300 Dutch Gilders. (about $150 at the time) It sat in the corner for many years until I needed one 4 years ago. It cost a few days labor and about $1000 for pro parts.

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What generator do you got there?
 
What generator do you got there?
It is a 25KVA 400V, 3 phase 50Hz unit. It is a backup unit that I housed in a modified 10ft shipping container made out of Cor10 steel. I respect HPA and it provides shrapnel protection in case of HPA failure. As I have oil heat for the house, the 6,000 liter fuel tank also provides for generator fuel. I also have a machine shop. This genset will power all my 3 phase machines as well as the house and with that amount of fuel, I can do that for many months.
 
It is a 25KVA 400V, 3 phase 50Hz unit. It is a backup unit that I housed in a modified 10ft shipping container made out of Cor10 steel. I respect HPA and it provides shrapnel protection in case of HPA failure. As I have oil heat for the house, the 6,000 liter fuel tank also provides for generator fuel. I also have a machine shop. This genset will power all my 3 phase machines as well as the house and with that amount of fuel, I can do that for many months.
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Decision made… I have a Daystate 4500 PSI Compressor 110V Super Leggero on the wayNow how to sneak it past the wife🙈
@L.Leon Congrats on pulling the trigger on a decent compressor. I believe that’s a rebadged Coltri. As for sneaking it past the wife, it’s probably not happening. You’ll need help moving that frieght.
 
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My Hatsan Lightning has served me well until today. Was filling my SCBA from 2800 to 4000 psi, when the following started happening at 3500 psi. The on/off switch started smoking and before I knew it there was smoldering coming from it and the other switches. Once before through vibration, I believe the on/off switch caused me problems and I replaced it. This time around all the switches will need to be rewired. Frankly, I will try and fix it but am done… I have enough air in my two SCBAs for a few weeks, judiciously using my Pathfinder, the Ghost will have to wait. Both my Atomics I can fill from a hand pump so am good there. The irony is that I had directed filled all my PCPs today with zero issues. If I get the Lightning running again it will only be for direct fills.

My question to you fellow members is do I buy a direct fill compressor, or bite the bullet and get something like the Daystate 4500psi Super Leggero 110v Air Compressor. And though it is pricey, it is not much more than some of the PCPs currently on the market. I understand it utlimately my decision. But am seeking the thoughts and opinions of those who may see it differently. Two of my PCPs required a HPA compressor, two do not. I suspect the Atomics are going to see more use until I can make up my mind. First world problems, Oy!
My Tuxing Twin cyl model TXED012 seems to be a very good compressor. I filled my 6.8L today no problems. I got it from Walmart with a 3 year protection plan.
 
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Owner of 4 compressors, from original Shoe Box to the cheap 12v portables. Currently running a Tuxing 42 series in the shop, and a GX4 as my portable, I have topped off 2l bottles in the field with it a few times and also top off my big bores with it along with occasional top offs for other PCPs when I do not have a bottle along. GX4 is my favorite so far.
Well we both use the same . I bought the GX cs4i then because it was so cheap the Tuxing 042.
Combined I’ll never need more. Unlike you I gravitated to using the Tux primarily, just much faster.
Ive used both to fill 9 liter bottles from empty. About 5 continuous hours for the GX and 45 minutes
for the Tux 042. A top off is maybe 15 minutes.
The price to my house was $580 for the GX and couldn’t pass up the Tuxing 042 for $360.
If anything goes wrong I can fix. Added self contained cooling just to experiment with Ali express stuff.IMG_2149.jpegIMG_2148.jpeg
 
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Gentle thank you for the responses… I have a lot of mulling over (thinking) to do…
Please keep us in the loop as to what decision you reached, and why.

I am more interested in the factors that somone includes in their decision-making, and how they weight the factors.

If someone weights a factor much differently than do I, and the person appears to be informed and reasonable, I must question my own weighting of some/all factors. Discovering that, and how I am wrong is one of my strongest goals, If I wasn't willing to discovering that I am wrong, I wouldn't have married. ;)
 
Please keep us in the loop as to what decision you reached, and why.

I am more interested in the factors that somone includes in their decision-making, and how they weight the factors.

If someone weights a factor much differently than do I, and the person appears to be informed and reasonable, I must question my own weighting of some/all factors. Discovering that, and how I am wrong is one of my strongest goals, If I wasn't willing to discovering that I am wrong, I wouldn't have married. ;)

Decision made… I have a Daystate 4500 PSI Compressor 110V Super Leggero on the way… Now how to sneak it past the wife…🙈
@Normkel The above quoted post is post #27. As to the why he chose it, good question. Let’s see his response.
 
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Please keep us in the loop as to what decision you reached, and why.

I am more interested in the factors that somone includes in their decision-making, and how they weight the factors.

If someone weights a factor much differently than do I, and the person appears to be informed and reasonable, I must question my own weighting of some/all factors. Discovering that, and how I am wrong is one of my strongest goals, If I wasn't willing to discovering that I am wrong, I wouldn't have married. ;)
The 110V was a big factor for me as I didn’t want to incur the expense of a dedicated circuit. Secondly, the reputation of the Manufacturers teamed up to make the unit. Third is that its backed up by AOA here in the States. And last of all I didn’t want to purchase a HPA compressor to worry about not if, but when it would fail. Already did that with my Hatsan Lightning. Which I babied and never filled my SCBAs above 4000 psi. Am looking forward to enjoying full fills on them shortly and will be able to keep all my PCPs fully topped off…
 
Well we both use the same . I bought the GX cs4i then because it was so cheap the Tuxing 042.
Combined I’ll never need more. Unlike you I gravitated to using the Tux primarily, just much faster.
Ive used both to fill 9 liter bottles from empty. About 5 continuous hours for the GX and 45 minutes
for the Tux 042. A top off is maybe 15 minutes.
The price to my house was $580 for the GX and couldn’t pass up the Tuxing 042 for $360.
If anything goes wrong I can fix. Added self contained cooling just to experiment with Ali express stuff.View attachment 568646View attachment 568649
Although I don't fill tanks or bottles any more, I would be sorely tempted at the Tuxing 024 at that price.
 
The only difference between the Tuxing twins is filters , shut offs water tanks etc the twin cylinders are the exact same.. Right now the one I got the TXED012 IS At Walmart for $488 , and you can purchase a Allstate 3 , or 4 year protection plan which I did , and these plans are excellent.
Here is the full breakdown of what I did
Purchased the TXED012 With automatic shut off. Bought the 3 year Allstate plan.
When you get it tighten down all electrical wire clamps. Use Second lube 500 oil.
I bought a 40 gal tote on sale at Walmart , and using 20 gal of distilled water with anti freeze , and Royal Purple purple Ice additive.
Heat is the enemy with these compressors.
At the beginning run it for brake in period to get rid of all manufacturers metal left after making it. I use a lot of water because I live in Tucson where ambient temps reach above 110°F. So far my machine has not gone over 120°F that's when filling my 6.8L.
It takes 3 minutes to fill my Guantlet to 4,500 directly from compressor. 15 min for the 6.8L. For the price , and fact that some guys have had their twins for like 4 years , or more , and change oil annually. I really like my set up some guys use radiator's with fans , and frozen 2 liters in their water as far as I know I use the most water probably not necessary in cooler areas. OV.
 
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