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N/A Which game changer do you like the best?
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FX shows 43-73FPE depending on caliber for the 700mm Pro version. I assume the shorter sport versions will be available in the freeworld power levels as well, since they also list those at ~29.5FPE in 22 Cal for example.
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Pic of the JTS stealthhawk. This looks like the Vought to me, with the coupling half way down the barrel, safety? in front of the trigger, and more substantial bolt, M30's don't have those.
I really like the COB, but I really wouldn't like 50 o-rings. Anyway it will be cool to see how things turn out on these cool looking air guns. This would be the thing to finally push me into getting a PCP
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So far it seems to me like there is probably one Chinese cylinder over barrel rifle with a few variations. For the Remington, JTS, and Barra I mean.
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I thought Andy of AAR said the Remington was a snowpeak M30 copy, but then Tpatner412 said the JTS wasn't a M30 copy, so I'd really like to know.
I remember I tried to research who made the Remington since Remington Outdoors is no more, and I could not find any information
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How is an airgun with the air tank over the barrel a "game changer"? You must like the look but it's just a cosmetic change.
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Yes. It’s supposed to spit a 16gr 915fps. So that will put an 18gr in a nice spot. We will see. Hopefully.
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I've only truly been into airguns again (since the late 1960's) for a relatively short time, and only got into PCPs within the last 5 years, but true game changers??? What is the definition?
Define what is a true "game changer"?
I haven't seen one yet. Not one that truly fits that definition for me, especially when it comes to price based on performance and the cost of maintenance.
All my best!
Kerry
Define what is a true "game changer"?
I haven't seen one yet. Not one that truly fits that definition for me, especially when it comes to price based on performance and the cost of maintenance.
All my best!
Kerry
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Better than sub 12 for sure. I wonder how many shots per fill at that velocity. I haven't seen the capacity or plenum size for the standard. I think I red 150 bar.
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Quite a change in design. I haven’t seen any discussion on safety implications. Kinda surprising given the 100 pages of L2 tube explosion post mortem.
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I was quoting most of the press on the new ones. I know it isn't a game changer as Snowpeak has had it out for years.. .
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I don't think people with the M30 have had any issues over the years the design has been around. Barrel isn't near your head either.
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My Arken Zulus, the form factor and capabilities are outsize to its small form factor. A game changer at the price point.
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I have been thinking it.
Thanks for saying it so I don't have to.
I do enjoy reading about new products, but I see nothing to inspire me to crack open my wallet.
When any one of these "game changers" prove to shoot better, be more reliable, and easier to service than what I already have, then I will take a look.
Until then, I will shoot what I have and love every minute of it.
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I don't remember if he said it was but his wording on both of his reviews (M30 and Rem) about their features was the same. The Remington version has a much better stock in my opinion. It seems the M30's stock was just a quick cut out chunk of wood with a poorly designed and weak looking wrist without enough vertical angle. If I had one I would probably be trying to make a stock if it shot well enough.
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Yeah I don't think this has any more potential to go boom than any other tube airgun. It's not like it's a PB with 50K psi blasting through a barrel or anything. I'd be willing to bet there were many multiples more of the M30 sold compared to the L2 also.
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Classic .177 .22: 208 cc
Classic .25: 260 cc
PRO: 307 cc
Check out the FX info page I linked above, has some details. Plenum (located in the fake magazine) size will depend on model and caliber, but I dont know that FX has released that info yet.
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Do they all have a shroud ahead of the air tube? They’ve been popping up so fast, I haven’t really been able to assess that. My concern would be dropping a unshrouded one off a bench and having it land on the muzzle. It’s happened a few times in my multi-decade forays. There, I’ve confessed to being a klutz and feel much better. Perhaps these air filled tubes are as strong as solid titanium - I don’t know - but I’d like to know before the muzzle hits the floor and it goes off like a rocket.
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Forgive me if this has already been talked about in this thread, but how many more O-rings does this configuration require? And how much more trouble is it to simple clean the barrel?
I am asking because I simply don't know.
As far as aesthetics go, I like the look, but wonder about the serviceability, reliability and costs of maintenance, etc.
Of course, until they have been out in the field for at least 2 or 3 years... nobody knows for sure.
All my best!
Kerry
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