Daystate Delta Wolf. It was hyped like crazy before its release. Mine would not function, so I never got to wring it out for accuracy.
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Most overrated rifle...in your opinion?
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Any rifle where the stock design makes using a rear bench bag impossible to use! The crazy rear stock designs started about 25yrs ago or so. I thought it was just a fad that would disappear when shooters started to realize their new rifles were tough to use off the bench, but those ridiculous stock designs still continue! Now they even have rear stocks with an undercut and a hook near the toe of the rear stock!
Not all things that are old, are wrong (yes, I'm an old conservative)! Stock designers need to look back at rifles built a few decades ago.
Not all things that are old, are wrong (yes, I'm an old conservative)! Stock designers need to look back at rifles built a few decades ago.
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Well not to be a hater but pcp in general the cost hassel of high pressure for a gun that l feel does little to improve shooting skills. Bullpups and AR styling not my thing either. Huge fan of airguns but not of current trends. Yeah I'm a odd old duck I know.
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I don’t really have any experience with ones that fit the bill so far. Maybe that will change when I have to tear into my impact 
. I’ve watched the YouTube fx video and it is a bit intense but doesn’t “seem” that horribly overwhelming but I haven’t actually done it. As far as operating and shooting I don’t think the m3 is over rated at all. Best gun I’ve used by a landslide. Incredibly accurate, operates consistently over a very wide tune range on a given regulator pressure and is the easiest externally totally adjustable gun to hammer down a very consistent tune that I have used. The valve adjuster is a game changer in my opinion. Biggest slam is the long sticky valve rod causing a couple low velocity shots after sitting for awhile. I have learned to live with it due to everything else being so good but I understand in some uses that is much harder to do.
. I’ve watched the YouTube fx video and it is a bit intense but doesn’t “seem” that horribly overwhelming but I haven’t actually done it. As far as operating and shooting I don’t think the m3 is over rated at all. Best gun I’ve used by a landslide. Incredibly accurate, operates consistently over a very wide tune range on a given regulator pressure and is the easiest externally totally adjustable gun to hammer down a very consistent tune that I have used. The valve adjuster is a game changer in my opinion. Biggest slam is the long sticky valve rod causing a couple low velocity shots after sitting for awhile. I have learned to live with it due to everything else being so good but I understand in some uses that is much harder to do.Upvote 0
Don't want to get off topic but my experience OWNING the "latest & greatest" is severely limited. My experience GETTING TO TRY the latest & greatest however makes me think that companies who no longer push their "tried & true" traditional, dependable, low maintenance, low tinkering models are making a mistake. I think we ALL just want to hit what we're aiming at ALL THE TIME, THE EASIEST WAY POSSIBLE, DEPENDABLY! Those guns that CANNOT without copious amounts of tinkering IMHO are overrated! 
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Anytime a manufacturer comes out with the claim they just made the PCP that will make all other PCPs obsolete it's time to brace,....seen it before plenty.
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HW50s is okay,not special for a German or English springer,I like all my others better.
I got on the hype train at the Crown MkI. Got derailed after dumping a bunch of money into it...
Won't be riding that
again!
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The cheapest, flimsiest made high dollar gun with a $3 trigger you'll ever shoot. I'll never get the hype, and I have had a pile of them just to be sure.
The best thing I ever did to one was cut the barrel off and put it on my HW100.
I still have one that I've worked on that's a dedicated peep sight gun. They handle amazingly nice, but they don't shoot to match the handling.
The cheapest, flimsiest made high dollar gun with a $3 trigger you'll ever shoot. I'll never get the hype, and I have had a pile of them just to be sure.
The best thing I ever did to one was cut the barrel off and put it on my HW100.
I still have one that I've worked on that's a dedicated peep sight gun. They handle amazingly nice, but they don't shoot to match the handling.
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I don't understand the hype over ultra-compact airguns.
Think that people are giving up performance and ergonomics for "maneuverability". Agreed, compacts would have a advantage if you shoot in an extremely confined area - like inside a closet or a car (get a pistol?) but that's not a typical area that I shoot in. I do hunt in heavy brush with a traditional length rifle and never had a maneuverability problem that I'd compromise my airgun's performance for.
If compacts appeal to one's esthetics I'd say each to their own. To me the design looks like something is missing. Something like performance and balance.
But then I'm an old guy who took a long time to accept bottle-guns and even longer to get used to bullpups. I'm really fond of my .22/700mm Impact MK2 now.
Cheers!
Think that people are giving up performance and ergonomics for "maneuverability". Agreed, compacts would have a advantage if you shoot in an extremely confined area - like inside a closet or a car (get a pistol?) but that's not a typical area that I shoot in. I do hunt in heavy brush with a traditional length rifle and never had a maneuverability problem that I'd compromise my airgun's performance for.
If compacts appeal to one's esthetics I'd say each to their own. To me the design looks like something is missing. Something like performance and balance.
But then I'm an old guy who took a long time to accept bottle-guns and even longer to get used to bullpups. I'm really fond of my .22/700mm Impact MK2 now.
Cheers!
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The ones I/we can't afford because my wife says food is more important and we have to make payments on her Land Rover SUV
Bizarre world, a couple of years ago my wife sold her land rover to pay my medical bills.The ones I/we can't afford because my wife says food is more important and we have to make payments on her Land Rover SUV
She loved that SUV.
Now I'm more able, I grow and produce food.
Previously everything was carried from the supermarket in the SUV.
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Could/would give a few examples of what you consider ”ultra compact airguns”? Just curious…
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I'm not interested in the ultra compact airguns so I haven't noted the names.
Did a quick check and found a couple of examples... the AEA SF (10" barrel), Ataman M2R Carbine Ultra Compact Air Rifle and Brocock Atomic XR .177 Compact Carbine.
The very short bullpups look odd to me but I don't know how well they shoot. The barrel lengths are usually long enough for decent performance but I wonder about the the balance and stability of them. Never held one but I do prefer a slightly barrel-heavy rifle for off hand shooting.
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