Are all rifle’s accurate or should I say all barrels? Never came across a gun that wasn’t a good shooter even the less expensive and break barrels. Any have different opinions? I know one has to find that matching ammo and pressure
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Are all guns accurate?
- Thread starter Crabbypatties
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Yes, I disagree. Some rifles are not accurate. Especially the cheap break barrels.
Now to cut bait, do us a favor please and definitely “accurate”.
Now to cut bait, do us a favor please and definitely “accurate”.
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Did you mean define? When I say "accurate" I mean hit what you aim at! Not everyone is a paper puncher or ammo waster on shooting group sizes. I had a break barrel that I couldn’t miss with, but my buddy couldn’t hit anything with it! That showed me that a rifle/gun is nothing without a shooter!
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No. I bought a Hatsan Nova years ago that I could not get to group consistently no matter what I did. I finally bought a new barrel for it which took care of the issue. Turned out that the original barrel was buggered up from the factory (messed up air port and burs). Never did shoot it much after getting the new barrel because I bought a used Wildcat MK1 shortly after getting the new barrel. The FX got all the love.
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I don't know the answer to your question, but the guns with potential accuracy problems would be the ones with consistency issues.
Unregulated guns.
Guns with problematic regulators.
Semi-automatic guns, the semi-auto mechanism has potential for inconsistencies.
Guns where the aiming mechanism isn't cleanly aligned with the barrel, i.e. potentially poorly made or maintained break-barrels, etc.
Self-pumping guns -- the quality of the seals will affect the efficiency of your pumping and the pressure you have when you pull the trigger, etc.
I suspect all these accuracy issues are managable, but you have to do the due diligence to manage the issues.
Unregulated guns.
Guns with problematic regulators.
Semi-automatic guns, the semi-auto mechanism has potential for inconsistencies.
Guns where the aiming mechanism isn't cleanly aligned with the barrel, i.e. potentially poorly made or maintained break-barrels, etc.
Self-pumping guns -- the quality of the seals will affect the efficiency of your pumping and the pressure you have when you pull the trigger, etc.
I suspect all these accuracy issues are managable, but you have to do the due diligence to manage the issues.
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"Accuracy" is hard to define. If you're standards are low and you just want to knock over soda cans, sure, most guns are accurate. If your standards are ringing a 1/2" target shot after shot, then no. There are plenty of inaccurate guns out there.
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All this being true. But in a perfect world so to speak. But then again that goes with the shooter as well. A good shooter can make a bad gun look good or vise versa
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Ok. Easy now. Take a breath and not take offense. The other member merely inquired what you considered accurate, at what distance? If your presupposing from a pesting/ hunting aspect. A larger tolerance can be tolerated, and still effect an ethical kill. But if your attempting super tight groups for competition- the results vary. Obviously, by your fairly intense response, I’m figuring pesting/ hunting application. There are different levels of satisfactory results versus target. But in the end, the person behind the trigger will dictate results most.
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Yes, define.
If we can’t frame the discussion around at least minutes of angle / group size at a stated distance and count of shots in the group, we’re not talking about anything.
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This thread is almost laughable. There's a reason some rifles are cheap and some are very expensive. None are good if the shooter is terrible. But there is no one that can hit everything they aim at with every gun they pick up.
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Accuracy is different for some people. Good enough to kill a pigeon, sparrow or starling at 50 yards is not the same as shooting a ragged 1 hole group at 50 yards. Two different applications for the same tool, just one of them is a bit more demanding of the guns precision.
If I am going to the field to shoot critters, I will take the gun that shoots the 1 ragged hole group Long before I take the one that is “good enough” to hit something.
If I am going to the field to shoot critters, I will take the gun that shoots the 1 ragged hole group Long before I take the one that is “good enough” to hit something.
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I did not specify any particular target. It could be a can! I merely stated hit what you aim at. I don’t like shooting paper I’m more destructive and like to see things break. If my bluntness offends anyone I apologize my wife tells me the way I speak comes off aggressive at times.
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A chipmunks head at 40 yards is my definition of accurate enough, some rifles do it easily, some rifles need to be held just right, some are pellet picky and some need more attention than there worth, nope not all can be cured, only improved.
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Exactly what I’m getting at! One must know the limitations of the rig. But still would you say both were accurate? If you’re aiming at a target and you hit that target was that a good shot or a bad shot? Now if you missed the target completely, who’s the blame? All factors we’re talking perfect world scenarios
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I always aim at flies if i see one, so on 50 M i have killed a couple, but at 80 M i have just killed 1, and trust me at both distances i have shot many many times at flies, but most often just drilled a hole right next to the fly, and often so close it is freaky the damn fly dont even flinch, CUZ its like if a Hummer fell out of a plane and landed 5 feet from you.
Say 25 M well that would be doable with a range of even very cheap PCP rifles, really at that distance you should be able to hit a regular dice in just about every shot.
My friend just got 2 dirt cheap PCP rifles, a gamo arrow and a snowpeak of some sort, up close well they shoot just as fine as my 10 X more expensive rifle.
But add distance and they soon fall apart, 50 M still not bad, but he aint even trying to shoot 80 M like me, not least since we have tested light slugs in both and they just will not fly strait at any distance.
Another thing i enjoy is cutting the grass with the airgun, but a straw that's only half the diameter of the .177 i shoot with, well at shorter distances it some times take a couple of shots, at 80 M i prefer to shoot, well taking down a single blade of tall feed grass, well it aint easy and will eat into your ammo tin.
Still when it fall immensely nice feeling.
I prefer to miss 1 inch at 80 M VS missing with 4.5 mm at a shorter distance, CUZ up close, with the price and time i have put into my rifle, well i pretty much expect to put pellets thru the same hole again and again.
Though most often you end up with a hole that's .357 in size, not least with many shots, like say 10 of them.
Say 25 M well that would be doable with a range of even very cheap PCP rifles, really at that distance you should be able to hit a regular dice in just about every shot.
My friend just got 2 dirt cheap PCP rifles, a gamo arrow and a snowpeak of some sort, up close well they shoot just as fine as my 10 X more expensive rifle.
But add distance and they soon fall apart, 50 M still not bad, but he aint even trying to shoot 80 M like me, not least since we have tested light slugs in both and they just will not fly strait at any distance.
Another thing i enjoy is cutting the grass with the airgun, but a straw that's only half the diameter of the .177 i shoot with, well at shorter distances it some times take a couple of shots, at 80 M i prefer to shoot, well taking down a single blade of tall feed grass, well it aint easy and will eat into your ammo tin.
Still when it fall immensely nice feeling.
I prefer to miss 1 inch at 80 M VS missing with 4.5 mm at a shorter distance, CUZ up close, with the price and time i have put into my rifle, well i pretty much expect to put pellets thru the same hole again and again.
Though most often you end up with a hole that's .357 in size, not least with many shots, like say 10 of them.
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Excellent post! I would say your a pretty good shot as well! What the saying? Aim small miss small! Thank you
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IMO, most all airguns are pretty accurate. Some are better than others, but hampered with bad triggers, inconsistent velocity etc. But in the hands of a good Marksman, they can deliver.
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