First Time Sorting Pellets By Weight

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I sorted the .25 King Heavy Mk1 for EBR this year. I had two tins of 300 each, and sorted into two piles. One was 33.8 to 34.0, the other was 34.1 to 34.3. I only had about 30 left over for practice out of 600 I started with. Seems maybe I got some tins from new dies at JSB? Anyway, it seemed to work for me. I shot the lighter ones at 75Y qualifying rounds and the heavier ones in the 100Y final. I am so glad that I switched from the POS .22 Monster Redesigned. I had ZERO flyers the entire week…
 
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Here’s my latest sort. Partial tin of JSB .25 King Heavy 33.95. Washed and sorted. Final count was 217 pellets. Here’s the distribution:
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I sorted the .25 King Heavy Mk1 for EBR this year. I had two tins of 300 each, and sorted into two piles. One was 33.8 to 34.0, the other was 34.1 to 34.3. I only had about 30 left over for practice out of 600 I started with. Seems maybe I got some tins from new dies at JSB? Anyway, it seemed to work for me. I shot the lighter ones at 75Y qualifying rounds and the heavier ones in the 100Y final. I am so glad that I switched from the POS .22 Monster Redesigned. I had ZERO flyers the entire week…
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So your tolerance was .2 grains or about .6% and got results you were happy with - consistent poi with no flyers. That goes back to my original question at the beginning of this thread - that also helps me make good decisions about further testing. Many thanks.
 
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I sorted the .25 King Heavy Mk1 for EBR this year. I had two tins of 300 each, and sorted into two piles. One was 33.8 to 34.0, the other was 34.1 to 34.3. I only had about 30 left over for practice out of 600 I started with. Seems maybe I got some tins from new dies at JSB? Anyway, it seemed to work for me. I shot the lighter ones at 75Y qualifying rounds and the heavier ones in the 100Y final. I am so glad that I switched from the POS .22 Monster Redesigned. I had ZERO flyers the entire week…
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So your tolerance was .2 grains or about .6% and got results you were happy with - consistent poi with no flyers. That goes back to my original question at the beginning of this thread - that also helps me make good decisions about further testing. Many thanks.
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By the way, did you also sort by pellet head size?
 
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No, I used to for .22 RDMs but these were all so consistent I don’t bother
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Fortunately or unfortunately I have about 15 tins left from .22 MRD's I abandoned these earlier in the spring, I just lost my temper....and everybody hated me in the house for that :).
And now already hate my life again, coming back to these for winter shooting, going through the entire excercise again (weight sort, head sort, rolling sort and whatever else - praying maybe). Over summer months I refused to sort these but got to shooting instead.
Tinkering instead of just re-size all of it, no matter what. I still need to measure my liner what sizers to get.
I have no idea what may be the outcome, but what you think?
Have you tried sizing MRD's?
 
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Fortunately or unfortunately I have about 15 tins left from .22 MRD's I abandoned these earlier in the spring, I just lost my temper....and everybody hated me in the house for that :).
And now already hate my life again, coming back to these for winter shooting, going through the entire excercise again (weight sort, head sort, rolling sort and whatever else - praying maybe). Over summer months I refused to sort these but got to shooting instead.
Tinkering instead of just re-size all of it, no matter what. I still need to measure my liner what sizers to get.
I have no idea what may be the outcome, but what you think?
Have you tried sizing MRD's?
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Nope. But what I do think IMHO, is as long as JSB makes them in their current configuration (deep cavity) vice their circa 2017 configuration (shallow cavity) it will be a waste of time to pursue them.

Can it be done? Probably, with much effort. But why when the .25 Heavy is just so much better? Even the 2nd place finisher at EBR (Nicolay) has said publicly that he doesn't think he can win with the current RDMs, and when his stash of 2017 version MRDs run out he will be shifting from RDMs to something else...

I'm not sure what the winner did to his RDMs, but obviously he had no flyers and we all know some Thomas guns don't have flyers anyway when REALLY GOOD batches of current RDMs are used...
 
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... Can it be done? Probably, with much effort. But why when the .25 Heavy is just so much better? ...
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I completely agree with you. I just have an investment, also a brain damage from these. Only trying to spend them rationally. I ordered 20 tins and still sitting on 15 after a half a year. Cannot shoot them longer then 50, it is really embarrassing. :)
 
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I have pretty much given up on the RDMs beyond 50 yards or so.

I will relegate them to 50 yard use in windy conditions and be happy VS pulling hair and gnashing my teeth over shooting them at 100......:mad:

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I spoke too soon
I acquired an Evol Tac .22 that is supposedly designed specifically for the RDMs, so here we go again......
Wish me luck :D
 
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I know I’m done with the .22 RDM’s, ( spoke of this in another post)I bought my latest RAW a .25 very happy with its performance with the jsb, FX branded also especially the ZAN MK1’s and just ordered a . 25 barrel kit for my Impact M3 we will see which will shoot the most consistent and accurate? I also ordered a LW 10 groove barrel for the RAW I’m not really sold on poly barrels? I have a theory…

I know I’m not a seasoned long range shooter, so I don’t expect anyone to take notice or care, these are my opinions. But I will not waste my time with .22 RDM’s I have had two REDWOLF’s one a GCU1 hp and the second a GCU2 hp both .22’s not happy with the caliber, the guns are fine.
 
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I have never weighed my pellets and I refuse to start because I will get way too OCD about it. I remember when I started hand loading my powder burners and the tick I would get when the digital scale would go back and forth +/- .1 grains.

Also, I don't feel a need when I can stack my rifles pellet of choice at 50 yards. That's all I need really. That makes me think the variance of a few tenths of a grain doesn't seem to really matter. You gotta take into consideration your fps is going to fluctuate too, even in a regulated gun.
 
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After you get all the sorting done have someone setup each batch so you can do a blind accuracy test. Have them label each blind batch starting with A. They need to record the data for each blind batch for avg weight and head size. After the blind test is setup you can shoot 10 five shot groups from each batch starting with a full fill on the rifle for each batch to keep everything as consistent as possible between each blind batch. Record the average group size for each batch and the smallest and largest group from each batch. Once all that data is collected you will know if sorting is worth the time and effort. I dont think I have ever seen anyone do a blind test after sorting to see if its really helping or if its a placebo.
 
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After you get all the sorting done have someone setup each batch so you can do a blind accuracy test. Have them label each blind batch starting with A. They need to record the data for each blind batch for avg weight and head size. After the blind test is setup you can shoot 10 five shot groups from each batch starting with a full fill on the rifle for each batch to keep everything as consistent as possible between each blind batch. Record the average group size for each batch and the smallest and largest group from each batch. Once all that data is collected you will know if sorting is worth the time and effort. I dont think I have ever seen anyone do a blind test after sorting to see if its really helping or if its a placebo.
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Good idea. Very detailed. Probably won’t do it. 🥴
 
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