You should leave some space between the ring and erector housing as this can bind it up.

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So about an hour and 10 minutes . Head temp never got to 120f water less than 80f

RCope said:

Had about 45 minutes to spare on a nice day. Took the newly CS stocked .177 HW30 out, and the .177 HW50. The CS stock is significantly heavier (I didn't weigh it), but that helps the HW30 which is very light. Of, course, accuracy didn't change, I did notice that I need to bring the scope back about 3/4 inch. Sighted it in and couldn't miss my silhouettes even out to 45 yards despite some wind. The HW50 was accurate as always and super smooth (Vortek kit).
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That's a nice looking stock on the 30.

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markT said:

Every scope I own is SFP... I only shoot usually a known distance ( 35 yds) and will do a hold over for long distances. I only shoot invasive birds doing crop damage. Seems as though so many guys run FFP's on the YT videos I enjoy... I am thinking about trying a FFP but all these years why change?

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I agree, now I did go the FFP route, but switched back to SFP and stayed there. When pesting I adjust for the average of the distances I'm shooting to minimize holdover/holdunder. Also love not having the reticle shrink so small at low end of magnification range.

Struckat said:

I bought an Athlon Helos 4-12 basically for the reticle. It was on sale so I bit. I love that scope, but the fact that it is FFP is lost on me.

Your description of the difference is correct. But because I seldom go below 8x, it doesn’t matter which. I should just have a fixed 10x.

I also bought the Discovery 2-12-24 FFP. Inexpensive but awesom.

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From everything that I've seen the Discovery line of ffp scopes are worth every cent. The UUQ has kinda a Christmas tree reticle but nothing like the Discovery long range scopes. Truth be told a scope like the UUQ 4×16×44 tactical scope would have cost a close if not a grand back 20+ years ago. Now for such quality it seems you get WAY more for your $ than back then. I can't wait to see what a hour hundred buck scope is like. Heck by today's standards with scopes costing as much as three grand a four hundred buck scopes kinda like a dollar store scope. !

Nitrocrushr said:

Absolutely beautiful 98 and nice shooting! I love my HW98. They will hold their own with the best of them. Thanks for sharing the pics and overview

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Thanks, it's currently on the bench in pieces..lol.
I've really taken a shine to these break barrels.

I think they’re still a bunch of us out there that would like to have a T-shirt with a pocket lol

Nice. I’ll be sending a third tomorrow.

I bought an Athlon Helos 4-12 basically for the reticle. It was on sale so I bit. I love that scope, but the fact that it is FFP is lost on me.

Your description of the difference is correct. But because I seldom go below 8x, it doesn’t matter which. I should just have a fixed 10x.

I also bought the Discovery 2-12-24 FFP. Inexpensive but awesom.

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I picked up my first FFP last year. I seldom shoot past 50 yards and generally leave it in the upper range of the magnification.
When turned down the reticle gets smaller. It’s a non issue for me.
The bottom line for me, being a pretty casual shooter, is I don’t see much difference.

Now I have 2 FFP, both purchased for reasons other than what focal plane they are. I love them both, but not because they are FFP.

The difference is a bigger deal for those that compete.

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Anyway here is this cheap second focal plain UUQ 4×16×44 1 inch tube tactical scope that's on my gauntlet gen 2 SL 30 now. I'm certain that I can make that shot with it. However I'd like a bit more powerful scope and much better quality.

SpindleB said:

I usually order my tanks and bottles from Acecare due to their US Warehouse. That time it was another vendor. I wasn't in a big hurry so the usual 7-10 days from China wasn't an issue, over 3 weeks however was an issue.

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Matchstickshooter said:

and no porch pirates back then!

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haha I once ordered a set of kitchen knives and they showed up 8 months later it could of been a year honestly im being generous.

elusiveky said:

You were right. It seems fine. I mounted it this evening and it seems great so far. You have to realize though, i have only ever used the cheap included scopes on cheaper break barrels that are sold with a scope. So to me this thing is awesome. Will be trying to zero it in tomorrow!

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Good to hear buddy!

I joke about the 2 to 1 ratio, but its not far from the truth.
In the last few years I have been giving scopes away has caused me to drop below 2-1.
That and buying a few guns “Unexpectedly.”

Perfect for me…a casual shooter I have not found it yet.

JimD said:

I'm in agreement with JimNM. I get good results on squirrels with my 19 fpe 177, and 18 fpe 22 but they do drop a few steps faster with my 32 fpe 22 and 25. But anything much beyond 30 fpe (possibly upper 20s) in a 22 is overfill in my opinion for small game. But this is for inside 50 yard shots and if you need to take longer range shots (and have the accuracy to do that sensibly) you would need more fpe. All 10 shots I've take with a 32fpe 22 passed through and 16 of 18 with a 32 fpe 25 also sent through a squirrel and exited. The other two were front of chest shots that ended up under the skin behind a rear leg.

I killed a small raccoon with my 32 fpe 22 but it took three shots. I killed another small one with my near 50 fpe 25 and it was one shot and immediate death. These coons weighed less than 10 lbs and they can get up to around 50 lbs. Much bigger animal and not easy to kill like a rabbit. Even with 50 fpe I think they need a brain shot to get immediate death.

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Only coons that are gonna get up to 50# are pet coons, in the wild a huge coon is 25#, I trapped and hunted them for a long time the biggest one I ever caught/killed was 24# and was over 40 in long nose to tail huge skinny body. Guy I used to sell furs to told me he had something to show me when I took some furs in. He went in the backroom and came out carry something in both arms it was a raccoon that weighed 58#. Some guy jumped a persons fence in town and killed their pet coon and brought it to him to try and sell it, of course he called DNR and they arrested the fellow who ended up in all kinds of trouble.
He was keeping coon for owners until they decided what they wee going to do with it.

Struckat said:

I picked up my first FFP last year. I seldom shoot past 50 yards and generally leave it in the upper range of the magnification.
When turned down the reticle gets smaller. It’s a non issue for me.
The bottom line for me, being a pretty casual shooter, is I don’t see much difference.

Now I have 2 FFP, both purchased for reasons other than what focal plane they are. I love them both, but not because they are FFP.

The difference is a bigger deal for those that compete.

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I've used second Focal plane scopes for years mostly because I couldn't see spending the money that the first Focal plane scopes. That was because I didn't understand the difference and truth be told I'm not to certain that I understand 100% now. The only thing that I really understand is when you zoom in with a second focal plane scope the point of aim changes and you need to compensate for that. However with a first focal no matter how much you zoom in the point of aim stays the same. I'm actually going to be getting a 5×30×50 Discovery first focal plane soon at a decent value brand new at just over four hundred. It'll be the nicest scope I've ever owned and I will put that on my Umarex Gauntlet Gen SL 30 cal for long range shooting. I actually kinda challenged Shooter 1721 to a long range shooting match between him and I so that's really my biggest reason for even investing into a Discovery first focal plane scope. Shooter 1721 to my knowledge is the record holder of the longest shot taken with the Umarex gauntlet gen 2 - 30 cal at 404 yards and I'm going for 500+ . I keep waiting for good calum weather which seems like it's not going to happen until it's hot at heck outside in my state and county of Virginia.

Gosh me to I wanna go!

nice shot placements!

I’ve been wanting to whack bunnies in my garden, but the dog is far more efficient.
One inch from a double last Sunday.

Application of large pliers broke it loose.
Not seeing the lip. And I just put my MAX on a gun and filled it up so I can't check.

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