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The Quest,I woke up this morning thinking about why so many things.
- By Vana2
- General Discussion
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I pretty much accept the "tool" as it is. I will put in the effort of finding the best projectile and tuning for accuracy but most of my (25+) airguns are used as tuned from the factory. Occasionally, I'll adjust the trigger but rarely more that that.
I have to admit that I'm fussy (anal?) about the "fit" of my plinking, pesting and hunting rifles. As "fast shooters" I insist that the sights are on-target every time I mount the rifle, if not I adjust/modify the stock as needed.
As one who enjoys all kinds of home-made "primitive" weapons (slings, slingshots, atlatls, bows etc) pin-point accuracy is not possible and minute-of-a- squirrel/rabbit/deer is good enough.
To that end, I'm driven to develop my skill and do the best I can with that particular weapon.
Given (inherently) more accurate weapons like airguns the expectations of group size and range shift accordingly.
Minute-of-a-squirrels head accuracy is now possible at 80ish yards
Too many airguns to be fully intimate with all of them so it keeps me entertained cycling through them, it's never boring.
Cheers
I have to admit that I'm fussy (anal?) about the "fit" of my plinking, pesting and hunting rifles. As "fast shooters" I insist that the sights are on-target every time I mount the rifle, if not I adjust/modify the stock as needed.
As one who enjoys all kinds of home-made "primitive" weapons (slings, slingshots, atlatls, bows etc) pin-point accuracy is not possible and minute-of-a- squirrel/rabbit/deer is good enough.
To that end, I'm driven to develop my skill and do the best I can with that particular weapon.
Given (inherently) more accurate weapons like airguns the expectations of group size and range shift accordingly.
Minute-of-a-squirrels head accuracy is now possible at 80ish yards
Too many airguns to be fully intimate with all of them so it keeps me entertained cycling through them, it's never boring.
Cheers
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Other PCP for PRS22
- By TDCobb86
- PCP Airguns
- 21 Replies
Those are some nice rigs! I'm a mechanic by trade so leaving things alone is never going to happen! I could easily inlet a stock to play nice with barricades. I might wait another year to go air, as intriguing as it is. I'll see what happens with the red panda.First off welcome to the world of PCP's!
Depending on your skill set, tools available and the level you enjoy tuning and modifying things tends to guide which options might work best for you.
Short answer is currently FX has the most tested LR smallbore slug gun system on the market, it has its weaknesses and there's a bunch of good and bad about the brand but its really the main option currently for a bunch of reasons.
My suggestion is take your pick between the Panthera 600mm and DRS 700mm. in .22 or .25(I believe under the new PRS rules you can tune a .25 with Altaros to 880fps and still qualify under the new FPE based rules) and the 600mm version panthera because I assume with the larger tank and plenum it will have more than enough air to compensate for the shorter barrel while still keeping power and I highly recommend running a suppressor like the STO Falix which with the 700mm gets a bit long. But for the DRS I like the margin the 700mm barrel/tube gives for tuning and it saved me some $$ since it comes with the SHP plenum.
Get some Altaros slugs and set it up for 880-910fps should get you about MOA +- groups at 100yds depending on the rifle and give you an excellent BC. A lot of people also like a bunch of other slugs on the market and push them 1,000fps plus, works for them. Myself, I knew I was gonna be tight on air/shot count with the DRS, and the biggest or should I say most difficult factor for most in PRS is the wind, so I chose to go with the highest BC option and the Altaros are a very proven performer in the FX slug liner, combine that with only needing to push them to 880-900fps and I’m able to get 24 shots per fill, so in the event I forget to top of after a stage I won’t bomb a stage from dropping off the reg and allowing me to stay safely in my reg if I dryfire a few to reset the reg, clear the chamber for a ceasefire etc. and saved me doing a bunch of tuning and testing with the 100 other type and sizes of slugs on the market of late.
If I was doing it all over again I might go with a 600mm Panthera since this season I’m switching my centerfire rig to a MDT chassis and the Panthera would allow my to emulate that easier and I’d imagine I could get enough shots per fill to do 3 lanes between fills and I would be very similar length to my centerfire rig while running a falx or I could even switch up to a sarrissa for an even quieter rig and in my opinion quieter is always more enjoyable
But for value new, the DRS is hard to beat when you factor in replacing the rails on the Panthera to make it stiff and get the right balance and adding weights etc. but I say that because I was able to easily inlet a stock for the DRS to make it competition ready. with the value of Panthera’s used having tanked there are a lot of great deals coming up for them used and personally I think they looks pretty sharp as well.
RAW, is another option, but the bottle design is a bit different on the barricades vs the nearly identical profile to you rimfire/centerfire you can achieve with a DRS/Panthera. And if you club does many porthole type barricades you may find some impossible do to rifle+scope height.
This is getting very long so I'll end it there but if you have questions ask away, there are several shooters here on AGN that compete in Rimfire PRS & NRL22 comps with PCP's
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Umarex Tuning in general
- By Dwildemn
- PCP Airguns
- 10 Replies
Just starting to learn the fine points of tuning - used my Nates Chrony for the first time with promising results. Haven’t touched hs yet - actually have new springs coming after reading postings here. A wealth of information for all levels of experience - as I am a mechanically challenged beginner (at 80) I am especially grateful. Thanks.You've got the idea, but as stated, when you find the peak or plateau, you then back down the hammer, 3-5% in velocity to get you on the knee. You can almost always hear your gun change it sound. When air is blowing out the barrel after the pellet leaves it will be loud and grouchy, but when you turn the hammer back, and reach the point you are no longer wasting air, it will quiet down to a pfffft!. It's harder to say than it is to hear. That sound is a good indication of efficiency.
A good example is the FX Impact. They have so many adjustments, that you can easily get a bit lost. It's easy to just start over. But when you get it right, the sound on mine changes dramatically, and I know, I'm there.
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2 hours = 1 Rat
One beats none, and you will score better on future nights… I have had similar evenings and it is what it is. But when they cooperate?
And getting up and out there, in the dark by yourself is the real challenge. So kudos to you…Its all part of the pursuit, until you can pattern them, some nights you just get skunked. In reviewing some of my older rat Kill videos. I realized by the date stamps that the bulk of my kills came during June and July. So am bidding my limited time for few a attempts in the month of June.
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Population Problem
A good description like above doesn’t need images… It like when as a boy I read my first book without pictures. I gather that those are going to be fat cats. They are eating well…
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The Quest,I woke up this morning thinking about why so many things.
- By L.Leon
- General Discussion
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The pursuit of “more” or “better” is inherent in our human nature. There are myriad air gunners out there that are simply satisfied with the pratical performance they get from their airguns… And then there are those who keep ”pushing the envelope”. We all have a choice as to what we make our hobby. For me? If its starts to feel like work? No bueno… That said, it is all these different levels of interest that keep the entire hobby alilve for us all…
That said, it is all these different levels of interest that keep the entire hobby alilve for us all…Upvote 0