Findlay Ohio Airgun Show
- By Apott05
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Good to know, I will definitely have to keep my eye open for that next year.
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I assume this is .177 caliber. I doubt you can get 50 fpe out of it. Mine is shooting 31, and I shoot 13.4 gr Zan slugs at 1010 fps.Mine Was a uk spec sub12 ftlb ,since buying it I have taken off the original buttstock and fitted the MDT , pistol grip is a magpul ,side biathlon lever , Xl sound mod ,Picatinni risers with fx no limits rings opened the barrel port raised the reg shortened the hammer and changed the hammer spring ,the gut is now running at 32 ftlb with about a five fps variation over all shots whilst on reg ,still do is the factory Raw valve ,the uk is the Theoben type and a new polygonal barrel at 24” that should get me upto 50 ftlb View attachment 208189View attachment 208203
Same with me my first was a daisy spittin image winchester bb gun. $13 at great Eastern Mills. Then a 1966 blue streak. Man what a differance!!!A Dan was my second airgun I ever owned after the daisy BB gun. I finally replaced the 1 that was stolen in the 70s from my father In-laws cabin in the desert.
Ugh, tell me about it... for example the endless Bearskin Tactical Hoodie commercials on YT. Between the repetition and it being touted as a "tactical hoodie" it's probably one of the most annoying commercials going. What's next? Tactical kilts?
It could be the best product in the world but I'll never buy it now out of spite and will just have to settle for "traditional hoodies"
If you manage to get your Canada-legal pink gun, you could go hunting with my youngest granddaughter.I love folding rifles, and they tend to look more on the side of what people call "tactical". But that said, the Edgun Leshiy doesn't have to look like an AR15. It does have some configurations that are half-way there, though.
I **wish** I could have a folding-stock shotgun but here in Canada that's illegal.I do have little quick take-down screws in my .44 cal rifles, so while it's not folding-stock they're a bit more packable.
For me I don't really care too much what the gun looks like, but I do care about how it functions. That said, if someone gave me a dream folding shotgun that was miraculously Canada-legal but it was in hot pink, I'd likely do something to change the colour. Aethetics matter a bit.
A member of one of the Canadian groups offered me a .22 Crown a couple of years ago. One of the dumbest things I have done was to put off buying it until too late.Thanks, I will measure my Streamline pins, for future reference... it's more like 2.5 mm x 6.6 mm. I would need to drive out the pin to be most accurate.
I just checked the parts diagram, which shows 2.5 mm x 2.6 mm. Am I correct that the pin that you referenced is "2.5 mm diameter and 6.6 mm long?
FX Part Number: 19029 is what my diagram shows.
I understand that Europeans often use a comma where we use a period to denote the decimal place.
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Wow, the shadows make that hole look really wild. The bore is the same, all the way around, but the light gives the impression that it is not.
The bottom has been staked by a push-type center punch to reduce the hole.
Thanks, I will measure my Streamline pins, for future reference... it's more like 2.5 mm x 6.6 mm. I would need to drive out the pin to be most accurate.I believe it's listed on FX diagrams as"2,5m6x6" The same for Crown, Bobcat, Boss, Royale.
If it goes Pew Pew, I like it., but do lean towards the traditional.
I do have some traditional options for the Zeus.
Lots of wood choices, Walnut, Cherry, Custom Laminates, and the colored birch laminates and my new Composite Glass Fiber and Composite Carbon Fiber stocks.
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My buddy is real -- not an imaginary friend that takes the blame for the dumb stuff I do. I like taking credit for my own dumb stuff. After he bought his Daisy 880, I bought a Daisy 901. I really like the 901 and I will never shoot BBs out of it -- lead pellets only. He dropped by a few days ago and watched me make a perfect pin-point bullseye shot (3rd shot of only 3 shots taken while he was here) with open sights and wearing my computer glasses at over 18 yards with a Crosman 7.9 grain hollow point pellet. I THINK he's switched to using pellets only now.But really, it's OK to say _you_ shoot BBs from a Daisy, we won't judge ;-)
wow, that is a big break! I am very gentle on my guns but that kind of fragile design is just not for me. I am also more of a hunter than benchers shooter and no matter how careful a rifle can fall over. I has to have enough design margin not to cause this kind of catastrophic break. Maybe the next Daystate model will address this and then I can maybe finally own one.Here is a red wolf Rosso with a broken stock, I have two Rosso and I am nervous when I take them out to shoot and even more then I let someone shoot them, so far they shoot better then my BW, but I am hoping to change that, I have a 30 cal and 25 standard power 25 cal
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BRK Ranger and Pathfinder should easily meet your exacting criteria SirI don't want a big debate nor will I continue it because I'm not happy with the design, because I'm looking for something small and compact and that can deliver a lot of power, example Epic Two with 33 cm barrel and Huben GK1 with 21 cm barrel. But everyone is entitled to their opinion regardless of whether it's correct...
I’ve never fidd with mine - it just shoots and shootsNot exactly new is it.
That being said though i guess most have never seen the innards of these things and as evolution of our dear pcp´s push on.. Well let´s just say the 5A is limited in todays market.
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This then a 22 flavor. The Steyr is no doubt a top tier gun and spoiler alert.. it shows. From a pure design point of view there´s in my mind absolutely nothing to come down on. In true German fashion (although Austrian but from this respect, same same really) it´s designed and made 100% sans any flaws. It really is that simple.
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No. Barrel is not threaded and i believe Steyr offered a similar collar setup to be able to install a moderator. Ie; a 1/2"-20 UNF thread out front. No matter, i made my own from steel and brass thinking it might be a nice blend for the rifle. Thing is set with an o-ring within and is in turn held in by 3pcs of M4 allen stop screw, thereby being able to be adjusted for linearity vs the barrel (zero runout on the moderator).
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In contrast to most pcp´s the amount of machining going into this piece isn´t to shake a stick at. In essence the machining needed has been been regarded as such that a minimum of parts to a degree and in turn on three given "lines" on the main receiver.
In pic the valve assy, as you can see out of stainless steel. The poppet on a 1.5mm shank with an aluminium hat that has an o-ring set into it. The bearing surface on the actual valve housing is a tad limited but this is again catered to in that the "top hat" there (which is part of the anti bounce system) holds the end of the poppet shank and that top hat is set with minimal clearance vs the valve housing.
Note the a´la Hatsan multiple exhaust ports, which in turn are rather large seeing the caliber.
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These are offered in an array of power levels. From the German "frei" 7,5J and upwards, ending in 40J/29,5fpe. Transfer port carries an end plug that´s a M6 allen stop screw and as M6 is threaded on a 5mm dia hole it stands to reason that the transfer port is on that, 5mm dia.
Power is adjusted by an allen stop screw that sports a through hole and this through hole is what varies power output. The transfer channel is the sealed off by yet an allen stop screw, sealed with Loctite.
That being said then if you remove the "power insert" what sets the limit on these units is twofold. First up the valve seat is on a mere 4,3mm and in turn - if my calculations are on the money - approx 17cc´s of plenum volume.
In other words to make a Hunting 5A reach more modern levels these are the two things to adress.
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Poppet return spring is a rather stiff proposition. In turn it at one end sits on that plastic guide rod, and this rod runs the length of the plenum volume. Note the green colored o-rings used through out, these are harder than the regular Buna 70 ones we encounter, why i presume they´re 90s.?
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The mags. Might look a bit peculiar but nor is the setup new by any measure and nor is it especially stupid. So called "harmonica" mags were at one time all the rage back in the later 1800´s and i guess Steyr took it from there.
These fit into a mag well, of course, and the fitting of them is minute to say the least. However, end shake is really set by how you install the barrel, as that pushes directly on them. In short end shake is "variable" , as it were.
This particular gun i picked up used and as i got to try it out with a moderator out front it soon enough became evident that she leaks at the rear of the mag well setup, so need to adress that.
I know from previous that when stunts like this are pulled the actual "leak" induced by the clearance between the mag and the mag well they can be set REAL tight and thus the setup become real silent too - spite that clearance.
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Hammer then. A very short very light offering. If memory serves on a mere 21 grams? (will have to double check that figure). Hammer rides on two "rods" running the outside of the receiver, which brings that the hammer can´t really but run in a very linear fashion. Small spring in turn, part of the anti bounce as you can figure.
Rods are screwed to the hammer on two points for each side.
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"German efficiency". Indeed. That there is the regulator and the tube/tank threads directly to it. By altering the belleville washers within base regulator pressure is varied at will. In turn that small screw ya see there is where each setting can be dialed.
On that note i find it a bit peculiar there´s no reg pressure gauge really.? Dunno why that is, these days there certainly would be one present. (Gun was made in 2018 btw)
So.
What gives?
Well. As the opportunity presented itself with this semi i thought it´d be a neat gun to use on the rats. That´s mainly what i keep all my pcp´s for so, yeah. This brings that the piece will see a rather elaborate moderator out front, noone appreciates a high note airgun.
Still compact, REAL compact even (this is the shorter Scout model) and as such.. Would 40J suffice for the task at hand? I guess, but why risk it really as i´m then and again presented with shots that can extend a bit.
Thus i will make power jump a tad on this unit. Nope. No fire breather by any measure, just jump.
It has been claimed that these ain´t "slug guns" and be that as it may nor is THAT a first either. As i checked 30 grain pills fit the mags no issue, it miiiiight be there´s room in there for a 32. Dunno as of this writing.
This being said the Hunting 5 has become slightly of age, and i guess it shows. To cope with customer demands i have a real hard time seeing how anyone would pick a 40J stonewall pcp up today, and especially at the hang tag these one carries.
In essence, to large degree, it was put into market together with other similar guns, like the BSA R-10 and what not.
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Yeah well, one of them came through my hands as well, again a puff claimed not to cater to slugs. This then an "export" version. Well, hogwash. It toss´s slugs like noones business and does so the north side of 1000+fps all day. Yes, it now sports a stand alone plenum. Very very accurate with slugs and an absolute delight to use.