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Spend a few hours yesterday installing a sear adjustment screw, polishing contact points, resealing, cleaning and lubing. Trigger out of the box was 6.5 lbs, with creep. Now 14 oz with no creep. First outing this morning I quickly sighted in the dot. This is my first official 5 shot group using H&N Econ II 7.4 grain. Velocity was consistent at 520 fps. First shot the four silhouettes. Four in a row were a hit. Then this 5 shot group. Both at 40 yards. I’m liking this 853c.

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Below 35 degrees F and sunny i do not shoot outside .

Just go ask them. I have plenty of buddies that have ptsd as well, and they have fun shooting both airguns and powder guns. There are a few that say no, and that is ok. Just offer and don't be pushy.

People seem to think vets or people with ptsd are to fragile to do anything. Just ask and if they say no then drop it

Ritzon5 said:

I'm sure for some out there, they would like to shoot if the chance, but they might not have the equipment to shoot or the place to go. An invite with the equipment & place would be just the thing.

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Yeah, totally. If I weren't so self absorbed right now I wish that I could put some time in w our county's 4-H shooting club. Volunteerism should be encouraged

There are a lot of people who could use the social time. & there's nothing wrong w having a customer as a casual friend either. PTSD shouldn't be something that necessarily excludes a person from the activity IMO. Obviously there are risks, but there are risks within the general public too.

Hey,
Alex shared this with me. Thanks for the shoutout!

My best is with a scope , Diopters are just OK and open or iron's are defiantly my worst option . But in defense of open sights , the front blade is usually 4 to 10 times the width of the .25 dot i am aiming at .

Your shot count will go down as the air gets more dense. You will likely lose some fps and your regulator recharge rate will go down you less you have re-lubbed it with reg butter.

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View attachment 577284 Happy to have given my oldest son Grant his first pcp, fill tank, pellets and scope today and I apologized to him for the addiction that follows lol. He said that he understands how that happens. Great guy to hunt and pest with and now to make more memories with him having his own rifle. Asked him to join us here on this great site and share his experiences.

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I’ll be 39 in October and if someone gave me a rifle like that I’d probably be spinning in circles like an excited little dog hahaha! I hope you have many fun adventures with the whole family.

i haven’t tried yet due to time constraints. In a few weeks I’ll have time to stretch their legs (U2 .25 and .30/ U3 .30) well beyond 100 yards. We took some shots at a concrete structure at 170 yards away and the groups looked scary good. Unfortunately I couldn’t measure it but it sure looked promising.

Guess where I fall on this spectrum, LOL (pic is most of the spares not currently on rifles). Meanwhile, two of my three scopes are still in their boxes...

It will probably depend on the wind, sun, temp, Caffeine and bugs as to weather the lube makes any difference.

Yeah, my testing method was to cock, and fire so I could hear what it sounded like with no air, then cock and pump 1,2,or 5 times, then fire to see if I could hear a difference. And there was none.

with everything that has been written and read here on AGN , Yes i still tried it myself . Best of luck . Let us know if you perceive any recordable difference .

I have a modified HFT 500.
Now that I have my own field target course permanently set up. I go to the range with what ever I’m up to. And always take my HFT and do a loop. This was last Sundays 84 shot loop. I missed six shots. But I am trying to hit the same spot on the kill zone paddle. So I can really how I’m doing.
Plus I am building a 100 yard benchrest lane. That will be finally set up this weekend .
And Sunday is a field target competition. So by Monday I should be able to see if there is any perceived difference or can I shoot an 84 shot loop and only miss three shots. That would be the 50% increase in accuracy that I am fully expecting based on the advertising .

airgunutty said:

A little trademark infringement. Sounds like you have royalties or a lawsuit in your future.

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No, we usually send our esteemed colleagues Alexei, Sergey, and Igor. They have a very, uh, "convincing" way of pointing out misconduct.

i also have a zulu 5-20 with just the IR, and it is great, even out to 100 yards. can easily make out anatomy on a squirrel at 100 yards with it. it would be fine for even mice at 100x150 feet area.

Iowa Airgunner said:

I am going to find out. I used to clean lube sort all that and I stopped .
I buy JSB pellets not crosman premier and stopped doing anything but shooting.
Now I’m in a position that has me shooting field target three or four days a week. I am cranking through some pellets. So I bought a bottle of oil. And I put a new tin of pellets in a bag with six drops of oil. Rolled them around and returned them to the tin.
Now I am going to shoot both a new tin with oil and a new tin without . Both from the same batch. Let’s see what happens.

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I like your idea . Six drops seems excessive to me . when i used to doo all that i used a microfiber cloth with a small squirt of lemon pledge on it to roll the pellets around in . My results were = no difference shooting,, but cleaner finger tips .

AmericanPitCorsojay said:

Clearly you'll have never bought air gun,if u take all the air out,u can hurt the o rings,and value. It's good to keep a Lil in it. Nobody said full.

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Clearly?

Years ago Savage Arms developed a muzzleloader that used smokeless powder. It was supposed to be the end of black powder muzzle loaders.
It never made it in the market. It erased the line between short range and limited power and regular PB’s.
I think AEA will discovered the same issue.
We shoot air guns and go into this very well aware of the limitations we have. Most of us embrace the limitation because that is what this sport is all about.

Iowa Airgunner said:

I am going to find out. I used to clean lube sort all that and I stopped .
I buy JSB pellets not crosman premier and stopped doing anything but shooting.
Now I’m in a position that has me shooting field target three or four days a week. I am cranking through some pellets. So I bought a bottle of oil. And I put a new tin of pellets in a bag with six drops of oil. Rolled them around and returned them to the tin.
Now I am going to shoot both a new tin with oil and a new tin without . Both from the same batch. Let’s see what happens.

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I will be interested to hear of your results. What gun are you shooting?

Clearly you'll have never bought air gun,if u take all the air out,u can hurt the o rings,and value. It's good to keep a Lil in it. Nobody said full.

Question for those that have owned cheaper Night Vision not thermal , in the past . IF i own a typical country back yard 100 feet wide X 150 deep including the house . What is the real difference in cheap VS 1K or more ?